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Crusades · Apr 11

Kafka Fan44 said:

Zelensky came to the US and tried to bully our great President and VP....didn't work obviously. The man has shut down non state run forms of media and made it illegal for opposing political parties to even run against him. Hardly "Russian Propaganda".

Trump has no history of oppressing others in this current term or his last term. Grow up

Trump is a fascists because he wants to hold government accountable for spending and at the sametime make government smaller. He wants the individual states to have more control than the federal government. He will hold state funded media accountable for their bias news reporting.

Page 1 from the fascist playbook.

Crusades · Apr 11

nursej22 said:

Reagan was an actor who read the lines he was given.

I think Mussolini would be more of an authority on Fascism, don't you? He said "The fascist state is the corporate state." Trump demonstrates this daily from putting the tech bros front and center at his inauguration, making Musk his shadow president, extracting obeisance from large law firms, and sucking up to big coal. What kind of government demonizes an entire ethnicity and then scoops them up and disappears them to gulags? Where on the political spectrum do you put a leader that takes away veterans' benefits but plans a large military parade to honor himself? That doesn't seem so moderate to me.

These you refer to "demonized ethnicity" are illegal immigrants. Not "brown people" that Trump doesn't like.

Who gave Reagan theses "lines" to read?

Kafka Fan44 · Apr 11

heron said:

It's under your "account" tab.

People would rather stick their head in the sand than be educated or hear differing opinions. Sad world

heron, ASN, RN · Apr 11

Kafka Fan44 said:

People would rather stick their head in the sand than be educated or hear differing opinions. Sad world

We've heard those opinions before - it's boilerplate magadreck by now. Still not agreeing and not wasting time relitigating.

toomuchbaloney · Apr 11

Kafka Fan44 said:

People would rather stick their head in the sand than be educated or hear differing opinions. Sad world

You aren't offering up anything that can survive a fact check or that we haven't heard or read many times before. There's no point in arguing obvious propaganda.

Tweety, BSN, RN · Apr 11

heron said:

It's under your "account" tab.

Yep. Very much know how to use it. 🤣

Beerman, BSN · Apr 11

Crusades said:

Trump is a fascists because he wants to hold government accountable for spending and at the sametime make government smaller. He wants the individual states to have more control than the federal government. He will hold state funded media accountable for their bias news reporting.

Page 1 from the fascist playbook.

The irony is lost on most of them.

Kafka Fan44 · Apr 11

heron said:

We've heard those opinions before - it's boilerplate magadreck by now. Still not agreeing and not wasting time relitigating.

The good thing is the majority of Americans disagree and voted for change. Strong borders, lower government waste, and protect the freedoms that the modern day democrat party is trying to take from us.

Crusades said:

Trump is a fascists because he wants to hold government accountable for spending and at the sametime make government smaller. He wants the individual states to have more control than the federal government. He will hold state funded media accountable for their bias news reporting.

Page 1 from the fascist playbook.

Page 1 from fascist playbook is disarming the population. Thank god for the 2nd amendment

toomuchbaloney · Apr 11

Kafka Fan44 said:

The good thing is the majority of Americans disagree and voted for change. Strong borders, lower government waste, and protect the freedoms that the modern day democrat party is trying to take from us.

Page 1 from fascist playbook is disarming the population. Thank god for the 2nd amendment

How can it be the majority when more people voted against Trump than voted for him? Fascists always have a funny idea about what is and is not government waste. For instance; money for hungry children is not a waste while money for presidential golfing or military parades are wastes of money.

You seem to have misplaced your fascist playbook. The first steps are always to identify who the enemies of fascism are, to demonize the press and any institution which might hold fascists accountable, and to flood the population with lies.

Tweety, BSN, RN · Apr 11

I don't think those reasons that "the irony is lost on most of them" is why Trump is being called a fascist. Something I don't think I've personally ever said.

But perhaps things such as calling the free press the enemy of the people, purging the government of people that one day might oppose him more, calling January 6th a beautiful day, seeking to overthrow a free and fair election, talking about "the enemy within", talk of deporting American citizens, unconstitutional executive orders, and all kinds of things is what people are talking about.

Still, I don't know a lot and you can throw out a lot of isms that are probably true about Trump but fascism probably isn't one of them but as a seeker, I can understand why people are saying it.

Trump used the word himself when he was being prosecuted. The irony is lost on most of them.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/11/trump-rally-new-jersey-trial-fascists-00157482

toomuchbaloney · Apr 11

Crusades said:

These you refer to "demonized ethnicity" are illegal immigrants. Not "brown people" that Trump doesn't like.

Who gave Reagan theses "lines" to read?

In your opinion. Fortunately, we currently enjoy a modicum of free speech and we don't have to conform to the language preferred but the fascists or their apologists.

Reagan, famously, had dementia. His wife or his staff or GOP operatives gave him his scripts. Who cares? It was a great cover-up.

toomuchbaloney · Apr 11

Tweety said:

I don't think those reasons that "the irony is lost on most of them" is why Trump is being called a fascist. Something I don't think I've personally ever said.

But perhaps things such as calling the free press the enemy of the people, purging the government of people that one day might oppose him more, calling January 6th a beautiful day, seeking to overthrow a free and fair election, talking about "the enemy within" all kinds of things is what people are talking about.

Still, I don't know a lot and you can throw out a lot of isms that are probably true about Trump but fascism probably isn't one of them but as a seeker, I can understand why people are saying it.

Trump used the word himself when he was being prosecuted. The irony is lost on most of them.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/11/trump-rally-new-jersey-trial-fascists-00157482

Fascism most definitely applies to Trump's brand of "leadership". Historians and other experts have made this case. People are just more accustomed to and more comfortable with hearing democrats labeled as socialists or communists.