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Beerman, BSN · Apr 12

nursej22 said:

Wrong. There have been at least 2 workplace raids here.

The price of gas and eggs are up.

Berry farmers have to be able to plan, but on again off again tariffs screw with that.

And, the results of work place raids equated to how many legal workers being detained?

Perhaps part of their planning should be to not expect to get away with employing illegal immigrants.

https://www.cascadiadaily.com/2025/feb/22/farmers-warn-ice-raids-threaten-washington-agriculture/

Tariffs haven't been imposed on blueberries, as you know.

toomuchbaloney · Apr 12

Beerman said:

And, the results of work place raids equated to how many legal workers being detained?

Perhaps part of their planning should be to not expect to get away with employing illegal immigrants.

https://www.cascadiadaily.com/2025/feb/22/farmers-warn-ice-raids-threaten-washington-agriculture/

Tariffs haven't been imposed on blueberries, as you know.

Those people not only expect to get away with hiring illegal immigrants, they are apparently now going to work with Trump to identify workers to bring back into the country. What a weird way for Trump to punish the people who employ the illegal workers.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-suggests-farmers-could-petition-keep-workers-without-legal-status-2025-04-10/

Beerman, BSN · Apr 12

toomuchbaloney said:

Retirement accounts are definitely adversely affected by Trump's crazy Tariff tizzy. Trade agreements for farmers are definitely adversely affected by Trump's impaired judgment and reckless policy.

The world doesn't watch Fox News.

The stock market is where it was last Summer. Retirement accounts with stocks haven't crashed. They go up and go down. The sky isn't falling.

Those retirement accounts most affected are those that won't be touched for years. Folks who are currently retired generally have less risky investments and fewer volatile stocks. If they don't, hopefully they understand the risks.

I enjoyed the Chinese propagandist as your argument for Trump not knowing what he's doing 🤣

heron, ASN, RN · Apr 12

toomuchbaloney said:

Those people not only expect to get away with hiring illegal immigrants, they are apparently now going to work with Trump to identify workers to bring back into the country. What a weird way for Trump to punish the people who employ the illegal workers.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-suggests-farmers-could-petition-keep-workers-without-legal-status-2025-04-10/

Not so weird when you consider that he's one of them. Google "trump hiring undocumented workers". I first heard about it during the 2015 presidential campaign.

Crusades · Apr 12

Kafka Fan44 said:

The good thing is the majority of Americans disagree and voted for change. Strong borders, lower government waste, and protect the freedoms that the modern day democrat party is trying to take from us.

Page 1 from fascist playbook is disarming the population. Thank god for the 2nd amendment

However, the new fascist as defined by the left is when the government protects the right to bear arms. Because Trump is mean and likes it when school shootings happen.

nursej22, MSN, RN · Apr 12

Beerman said:

And, the results of work place raids equated to how many legal workers being detained?

Perhaps part of their planning should be to not expect to get away with employing illegal immigrants.

https://www.cascadiadaily.com/2025/feb/22/farmers-warn-ice-raids-threaten-washington-agriculture/

Tariffs haven't been imposed on blueberries, as you know.

Stupid orange man's administration has not card much about legal status before detaining/deporting. Either way, I can be sympathetic for workers who reside in my county doing hard work and paying taxes. I've posted many times that if employers didn't hire people without documentation, then there would be no incentive to be here. Businesses depend on those workers, and employ citizens, too. They go out of business and the community loses, not just the business owner or farmer.

As evidenced by today's hold on tariffs for phones, chips, and computers, all the farmers need to do is suck up and tell stupid head he is pretty.

Crusades · Apr 12

nursej22 said:

I've personally thought it since the only time I tried to watch "The Apprentice". I've heard people say his first campaign kick-off was stupid, ordering Sean Spicer to declare the inauguration crowds were the largest ever really stupid, serving College sports teams McDonalds stupid, and trying to pretend he was as smart as vaccine scientists showed how stupid he is.

This last week though, with the whiplash from tariffs yes, no, yes, sort of, and who the heck knows has really shown off what an incredibly stupid man he is.

So incredible stupid that he won the popular vote and flipped all 7 swing states. After years of legal persecution and a lazer focused attempt to prevent him from even running again. Not to mention the champaign to defame him as a Nazi provoking x 2 assination attempts. Pretty stupid indeed. 🙄

Crusades · Apr 12

Beerman said:

Those are all things you are afraid will happen, but haven't.

Yes. And still waiting for "forced pregnancy centers" and banning abortion......

Crusades · Apr 12

Beerman said:

The stock market is where it was last Summer. Retirement accounts with stocks haven't crashed. They go up and go down. The sky isn't falling.

Those retirement accounts most affected are those that won't be touched for years. Folks who are currently retired generally have less risky investments and fewer volatile stocks. If they don't, hopefully they understand the risks.

I enjoyed the Chinese propagandist as your argument for Trump not knowing what he's doing 🤣

I think they really don't care if any of these things happen. Or anything that would cause mass suffering. They want all the terrible things to happen just so they can hate on Trump. Sick and sad really.

toomuchbaloney · Apr 12

Beerman said:

The stock market is where it was last Summer. Retirement accounts with stocks haven't crashed. They go up and go down. The sky isn't falling.

Those retirement accounts most affected are those that won't be touched for years. Folks who are currently retired generally have less risky investments and fewer volatile stocks. If they don't, hopefully they understand the risks.

I enjoyed the Chinese propagandist as your argument for Trump not knowing what he's doing 🤣

Oh, that's right. Trump is taking us back to some other era when the stock market enjoyed much lower numbers. No one said the sky was falling, but my friends and family are surely not happy about their life savings losses. They are a little bit salty that no one told them to buy short just before Trump reversed course on his tariffs.

I'm glad that you enjoyed the Chinese ambassador. It's so edgy to call him a propagandist when propaganda flows through the administration that you voted for. The argument for Trump not knowing what he's doing includes a pretty big body of evidence, including expert opinion. It's a a shame that you aren't aware of that evidence.

toomuchbaloney · Apr 12

heron said:

Not so weird when you consider that he's one of them. Google "trump hiring undocumented workers". I first heard about it during the 2015 presidential campaign.

I'm guessing that only Trump voters don't know about Trump's hypocrisy on this topic.

heron, ASN, RN · Apr 12

toomuchbaloney said:

I'm guessing that only Trump voters don't know about Trump's hypocrisy on this topic.

It goes along with a general lack of awareness of history. Trump has been a notorious dirtbag and a known racist since the 70's. Longer than that in NYC. How the American electorate lost its long-term memory would make an interesting study.