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nursej22 said:

I listened to a podcast last night describing what officer Michael Fanone endured on Jan. 6. He wasn't even scheduled to work that day, but responded to being called in to assist. He was drug down the capital steps, beaten with flag poles, threatened with his own service weapon, and tased into unconsciousness. He suffered a traumatic brain injury and a heart attack from being tased. One of his attackers, Daniel Rodriguez, who confessed to attacking Fanone with a stun gun had confessed, and was sentenced to 12 years in prison. He had served approximately 1 year, and was pardoned and released this week. 

Fanone has filed for protective orders against 5 of his attackers who were released this week. 

Yep.  This is disturbing.  This man's attackers should be in prison.

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nursej22 said:

She made a plea for mercy. How is this narcissistic?

What Beerman said. 

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I watched the president's remarks about water in California, and yet again, he refers to a mysterious water source and or faucet, that shuts off water flowing from the Pacific Northwest to Southern California. I've been across Washington state and Oregon, and I don't recall seeing any faucet, or valve, or half-pipes (he said that today). What the heck is he talking about? The Columbia river flows from Canada, through WA, and between WA and OR to the Pacific Ocean. There is no waterway, natural or man-made that carries water to Southern California. Is he talking about Hetch Hetchy, that carries water from the Sierras to San Francisco? 

I think Gov. Newsom should invite the president to a formal ceremony to turn on this mythical valve, and just see where he ends up. 

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Tweety said:

I'll quote myself and you tell me what part you don't understand:   On the other hand she could be right.  People are feeling a bit unsettled and unsafe because we all know from these well meaning actions about defining gender that violence happens.  Hate crimes have risen while other violent crimes have decreased.

I just wonder how necessary it was to say during this service.  It's something that I've long ignored and barely been aware of until this year. 

edit:  I meant unsafe rather than safe.

 

Tweety said:

There's a time and a place.  She was there to lead a service in honor of the inauguration of a President, not a rally to speak on behalf of others.  It's kind of like when winning an Academy Award someone goes off on something political.  What they say might be true and right but that shouldn't be the time just because you have an audience.

I'm just not sure with only three days in office I would lay the blame for a rise in hate crimes the last few years at his feet.  Republicans and pastors around the country have spewed out rhetoric that causes violence.  But surely he adds fuel to the fire.

 

Trump didn't make the cats and dogs rumors up. He heard it just like  everyone else. However saying that in a very publicized place like a debate was irresponsible.  

The pastor could have called for  mercy and compassion without refering to political talking points. Really by doing so the message was completely obscured and the attention was focused else where. On her and Trump. If her true inent was to apply biblical scripture then this wasn't the way to do it. However I think her primary intention was to polically grandstand and vanity. 

And to say it the way she did was deceptive as it suggested these people have a reason to be fearful of their lives because of Trump. Deception and vanity......

I wonder if she knows of any scripture regarding these? 

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Crusades said:

 

I wonder if she knows of any scripture regarding these? 

I imagine a Bishop knows a thing or two about scriptare.  

I believe, even if it wasn't the time and place, she has a good heart and means well, unlike the Evangelicals thst support Trump and think he's  kind of Christian.

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Crusades said:

The pastor could have called for  mercy and compassion without refering to political talking points.

What were the political talking points? Was it mentioning gay and trans children fearing for their lives? Or undocumented people being good neighbors? 

I read a story about the family of Mathew Shepard not burying his ashes because they feared vandalism of his grave. Bishop Budde arranged for his interment  at the National Cathedral. Mathew Shepard, a gay college student,  was 21 when he  brutalized and left tied to fence for 18 hours before he was found. He later died from his injuries. 

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nursej22 said:

What were the political talking points? Was it mentioning gay and trans children fearing for their lives? Or undocumented people being good neighbors? 

Crusades already explained it.  As did I, but not as well.

nursej22 said:

I read a story about the family of Mathew Shepard not burying his ashes because they feared vandalism of his grave. Bishop Budde arranged for his interment  at the National Cathedral. Mathew Shepard, a gay college student,  was 21 when he  brutalized and left tied to fence for 18 hours before he was found. He later died from his injuries. 

Good on her.  But, irrelevant to this discussion. 

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nursej22 said:

I watched the president's remarks about water in California, and yet again, he refers to a mysterious water source and or faucet, that shuts off water flowing from the Pacific Northwest to Southern California. I've been across Washington state and Oregon, and I don't recall seeing any faucet, or valve, or half-pipes (he said that today). What the heck is he talking about? The Columbia river flows from Canada, through WA, and between WA and OR to the Pacific Ocean. There is no waterway, natural or man-made that carries water to Southern California. Is he talking about Hetch Hetchy, that carries water from the Sierras to San Francisco? 

I think Gov. Newsom should invite the president to a formal ceremony to turn on this mythical valve, and just see where he ends up. 

I'm not sure what you're talking about.  From what I saw, everyone there is pleased to see and work with him.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-01-24/trump-visit-los-angeles-pacific-palisades-wildfires-gavin-newsom

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Beerman said:

Crusades already explained it.  As did I, but not as well.

Good on her.  But, irrelevant to this discussion. 

No. There was no explanation, just grievance over Trump's hurt feelings.  You even said yourself that it wasn't her words specifically that were political.  

The Bishop wasn't political other than in acknowledging and addressing the most powerful political figure in the country directly with a plea for mercy on behalf of "the last of these". The sermon was very sincere, spiritual, and scriptural in nature and language.  

The irrelevant bit demonstrated the obvious pattern of merciful attentiveness of the Bishop as compared to the obvious pattern of Trump's attentions and vocalizations. It's probably best to ignore those things, eh? 

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In a late-night Friday move, President Donald Trump fired at least 17 independent watchdogs -- known as inspectors general -- at multiple federal agencies, sources familiar with the move told ABC News.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-fires-17-independent-watchdogs-multiple-agencies-late/story?id=118097873

This concerns me for several reasons in that a government needs some oversight because we're a democracy and need to stay that way.  

But also Trump, while he may be allowed to replace them didn't follow established laws in how to do so.

 

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Beerman said:

I'm not sure what you're talking about.  From what I saw, everyone there is pleased to see and work with him.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-01-24/trump-visit-los-angeles-pacific-palisades-wildfires-gavin-newsom

Trump has made some criticisms of the water policies ahead of the tour and some of them dumping water into the Pacific Ocean and not having water to safe a fish just are inaccurate.  It's a bit difficult to sift through the rhetoric and if Trump is saying something from now on it's always suspect to me.  Sorry not sorry.

But yes, he was warmly received.  That's what decent people do.  (Off topic:  Unlike DeSantis who refused for meet with Biden in Florida after hurricanes.)

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Tweety said:

I imagine a Bishop knows a thing or two about scriptare.  

I believe, even if it wasn't the time and place, she has a good heart and means well, unlike the Evangelicals thst support Trump and think he's  kind of Christian.

We probably will disagree. I think her intention wasn't to ask for mercy or compassion but rather highlight herself. 

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