Can a teacher do this? - page 3
Ok so I had a midterm yesterday. I have been studying for a little over two weeks straight for this example. I would go over the material she has posted online (she likes to do everything on power... Read More
2Nov 17, '12 by sharpeimom, MSN GuideTo borrow one of my mom's more frequently used expressions... "A great part of being a mature and responsible adult, is being willing to accept and live with the consequences of your actions."
When you read all the assigned material and get an "A" on the exam, bask in it! Enjoy that wonderful feeling!
When you only skim the final six chapters and get a "B" on the exam, instead of patting yourself on the back,
remind yourself that you might have had another "A" if only you'd bothered to read those last chapters.
If you blow off some (or all) of the reading assignments and end up with a "C" then be adult enough to admit to yourself and others that that "C" was your own fault instead of the teacher's. Be willing to accept the "C" this time and vow that you'll make more reading time in the future. Remember, just one "C" can lower your QPA a little, but won't get you kicked out of your program.
1Nov 17, '12 by dkmamato3Dezy ... A&P is tough and there is a lot of material to learn in a very short amount of time. I feel certain that most students taking A&P is feeling pressure at some point. Lecture and lab can only cover so much. I think my instructor does a good job of comprehensively touching upon the material, there is always some questions on the test that are related to smaller sections of the text that we may or may not have covered during lecture time.
We are also given case studies that ties together lots of detail from section to section to re-inforce the learning that we do. Case study questions are fair game for testing as well and while we discuss the overall points briefly in class there can be alot to them that you really have to make sure you cover on your own or in your case study group.
Keep plugging away at it. You can do it! There is so much to learn and all the material is important. Just remember that it is only going to get harder.
2Nov 17, '12 by Rose_Queen, MSN, RN GuideQuote from DezyCollege is not high school. Information is no longer spoonfed to students, nor should it be. The fact that you're paying good money for tuition should be enough incentive for you to do the work required. That work includes reading the entire assignment from the textbook, not just a bit of it. Anything in the lecture, notes, or reading assigned is fair game for a test, whether it was covered in lecture or not. The work world will be the same- you won't be spoonfed information on how to care for patients; you'll either need to know your stuff or know where to look it up. That's what being an adult is all about.I keep thinking if I'm paying good money for tuition, and not being out in a situation she I'm being taught material I'm going to be tested on... It doesn't seem fair!Can anything be done about this?
0Nov 17, '12 by dkmamato3Quote from nguyency77Exactly ... learn from what went wrong and then move forward. Last week I did really poorly our online chapter assessment. I thought I was ready to take but the results clearly told me otherwise....my score was below the average of the class for that particular quiz. It stung....it took it to heart and went back to dissect what exactly went wrong. Retraced my understanding and learned from it. Happy to say that I did much better on my muscle exam. I try to look at mistakes and wrong answers as opportunities to learn. Being upset about an unfortunate outcome is understandable - allow yourself to be mad and go kick a tree.....then put yourself back together and learn from it.I know it's easier sometimes to just say that the teacher was being unfair, etc. But it's smarter to learn from it.
4Sounds like you WERE tested on the material covered, right? Just in more detail than you were prepared for? I don't think the teacher is/was out of line....
4Make a note from here on forward: REVIEW IT ALL!!! Why in the world would an instructor have to tell you exactly WHAT she plans to use on the exam? REVIEW IT ALL
Quote from DezyWow everyone is talking to me like I'm fresh out of high school. I'm not, Im 27. Next, this is our 2nd mid term we received on anatomy and this is the third test we have received from this teach which had a totally different writing style. I know about understanding and not merely memorizing and it's not like I'm lazy and do jack all and complain. I work hard and I'm willing to do so bu my frustration lies wih not being told what to review.I know maybe a lot of people have been told to suck it up and deal with it and your on your own but I feel that's a cop out excuse for Someone not to do what they are beig paid good money to do. I want to be successful and I am willing to work my butt off for it. Maybe everyone else on here honks its ok to pass the buck because its always been like that but igot one think there is something messed up about it.I also am surprised by the lack of supportive responses or advi e given. Before people start ramming down my throat to grow up, remember what you have gone through and we are here to help Eachother not make Eachother feel like a pee-on because we're new to the game and need help. Anyone that's sent a supportive message I thank you.
P.s I'm writi from an iPhone please excuse my errors.
1What is it you feel we are missing?
Quote from Dezywow clearly no one on the board can read what I actually said.
0Nov 17, '12 by NP Sam, BSN, MSN, NPAre you doing prereqs or in nursing school? Nursing school tests will call on knowledge that is not always presented in powerpoints also. As far as time to take a test... Does that really matter? Think about it, that part was definitely whining . I've taken all the way up to the "pencils down" moment on exams. I know this long journey towards nursing is difficult but as a working nurse you will have to make decisions that weren't in any powerpoints, on any test, or on the NCLEX. Just you wait...
1Nov 17, '12 by nguyency77Quote from ColleenRN2BYes!Make a note from here on forward: REVIEW IT ALL!!! Why in the world would an instructor have to tell you exactly WHAT she plans to use on the exam? REVIEW IT ALL
I took a Patho II exam last week. I made so many diagrams, reviewed "The Big Picture" in my head, and came up with many potential questions for altered perfusion.
My teacher threw us all for a loop when she asked about tricuspid atresia--it was a seemingly minute detail that didn't strike me as important while I was studying, but it was fair game since it was in the textbook! I ended up getting 4 questions wrong just because I skimmed over a couple of paragraphs. Otherwise, I would have gotten a 100%. Lesson learned.
0Nov 17, '12 by ADN2B[QUOTE=Dezy;7035705]..."So I went over the stuff she gave us, I used the practice quiz online over and over and looked a things online and bit of the text book."
Read the material from your book a couple of times and make your own notes to study. You will be able to answer the test questions. Try joining a study group.
4Nov 17, '12 by edmiaQuote from DezyNo, you clearly don't get what everyone is trying to tell you.wow clearly no one on the board can read what I actually said.
You cannot read the textbook "a bit" in nursing school and certainly not in A&P. This is the meat of your knowledge, so you need to buckle up and know that book in and out.
I still can conjure up the graphics in my A&P book when I think of certain biological functions, like my textbook's depiction of the coagulation cascade or myocardial muscle contractions.
I'm sure if you read your class syllabus in detail, you will find what chapters you need to be reading before each lecture.
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7Nov 17, '12 by BlueDevil,DNPYes, the teacher can do that, and no there isn't anything you can do about it other than change your study habits and be better prepared for the next challenge. We all understand you were handed a setback and were caught off guard. It happens, and it is frustrating. You have our condolences, we have all been there. What you are failing to appreciate is that we do comprehend, and we are still holding you accountable, and not the teacher. You need to change up your preparation if you want to be successful next go round.
OR-If you want to start over, make a new thread and we can all promise to vilify the teacher and take your side unconditionally. You may still do poorly on the next exam and we will not have really done you any favors, but if that is the outcome you prefer I suppose we could go that route...
1Nov 18, '12 by VickyRN GuideIt is true that you, as an adult learner, are responsible for your learning. You are responsible for the grade you earned on the test. Period.
That said, the teacher is the facilitator of learning in the classroom environment.
I would be interested to know how well the class as a whole performed on this exam and content material. If the entire class performed poorly, then the teacher is not being very effective as a facilitator of learning and needs to reassess her teaching methods.
It is never fair to students to test at a level that is higher than what is addressed in the lecture. For instance, if the teacher has application-level questions on the exam, then the teacher needs to give examples of application (and perhaps some practice application questions) during the lecture.
And, with reams and reams of material to go over, the student needs to be given some sort of direction as to what is most important. An effective facilitator of learning will give students that direction and will also provide some sort of study guide or review to help them effectively study for the test.
I would advise you to be proactive as an adult learner and make an appointment to see your professor for a one-on-one session in her office. During this time, ask your teacher what is the best method to study for her exams.