Am I the only one who finds this disrespectful?
- 0Oct 28, '06 by klone, BSN, RNRight now there are two threads (one which was closed) devoted to "things you should know before coming into our department" and the tone of the thread is thinly-veiled contempt at ignorant, uneducated or silly things patients or patients' families say or do. I've been hanging around this board for a couple years, and these threads are a regularly occurring thing.
I haven't said anything in these threads, instead I just close the thread and move on. But whenever I read them, I can't help but feel how disrespectful these threads seem. I understand people are "blowing off steam" and all that, but I don't know. It still really bothers me, and makes me wonder if these people who are so contemptuous are really able to mask their feelings very well.
These threads often get SO big, which makes me wonder if maybe I'm alone in thinking that it's inappropriate and disrespectful to mock the patients we see, even if it is behind their backs.
- 1Oct 28, '06 by canoeheadI don't think they are disrespectful, and I enjoy the threads. These are my favorite threads when we all get together to blow off steam.
For example, tonight I had a woman inform me that she was allergic to water, and would need ginger ale to drink instead, and by the way, could I put a couple cubes of ice in it?
- 0Oct 29, '06 by 33-weekeras someone who started one of these vile threads, yes, i can say that we really can hide our feelings.
i get top scores on my evaluation for patient satisfaction/courtesy every year. in 15+ years of nursing, i have never had a patient complain about me that i am aware of. i have, however, been named in letters written by patients as one of their favorite nurses.
i think what you might be missing in these threads, despite all the little animated faces we can add, is the tone in which these things are said. the actual words we use to communicate are only a small fraction of total communication. when you read the words, your mind may put a different spin on it than the person who wrote it.
i really do give patients the benefit of the doubt - sometimes to a fault. i am kind to every patient, regardless of their situation. this takes self control. i need to 'blow off steam' somewhere. i bet that the people blowing off the most steam here are the ones who are most controlled in front of their patients. after all, if you let it all hang out in front of them, you'd have no need to vent.
- 0Oct 29, '06 by 33-weekeranother thought that occurred to me later...
many of us feel rather powerless over things in our society that we must simply endure, even though they are clearly wrong. (drug addicts popping out a micro preemie every year at the taxpayers' expense - not to mention the babies' expense... able-bodied people scamming the system and living off hard-working taxpayers... and the list goes on).
these threads, even though they may focus on individual, irritating things or people, give us a place to vent about such nonsense in our society at large. of course, when we deal with people face to face, it is different than complaining about the faceless masses, and we are able to have compassion for the person and give them the care they need, regardless of their situation.
- 0Oct 29, '06 by traumamomtxget over yourself.....if we didn't laugh at some of these things behind pt's and their families backs we might just cry in front of them; or worse really tell them like it is. We all have to have a place to vent and laugh with our sarcasm because our days are way to stressful and serious to have compassion 24/7. I have one: my pt is "lactose intolerant" but he eats ice cream all night long from the unit's fridge.
- 0Oct 29, '06 by SharonH, RNQuote from kloneThese threads often get SO big, which makes me wonder if maybe I'm alone in thinking that it's inappropriate and disrespectful to mock the patients we see, even if it is behind their backs.
No, you are not alone. We all blow off steam and lord knows I have vented on this board but so often these posts drift into pure contempt filled with stereotypes and out and out lies. Also, judging from the interaction I've had with the patient population often targeted in those threads, the principals are not nearly as good as hiding their dislike as they think. I have had patients who would rather suffer than be treated like dirt just because they are poor/uninsured/on Medicaid. Being poor in this society has become akin to a character flaw in our society and I see this attitude reflected in a lot of these threads.
- 0Oct 29, '06 by hogan4736Quote from traumamomtxNow now, we cannot judge...Maybe he had some milk trauma when he was younger, and can only have frozen lactoseget over yourself.....if we didn't laugh at some of these things behind pt's and their families backs we might just cry in front of them; or worse really tell them like it is. We all have to have a place to vent and laugh with our sarcasm because our days are way to stressful and serious to have compassion 24/7. I have one: my pt is "lactose intolerant" but he eats ice cream all night long from the unit's fridge.
- 0Oct 29, '06 by EmerNurseI agree with 33-weeker - this is only venting, and I'd NEVER EVER let my patient's get less than my very best care AND attitude. I don't make it a point to know their insurance status and even if I know, it makes no difference. Really, it doesn't.
But as was said, it does get frustrating night after night after night - and honestly, who understands best what we see and deal with but other nurses? My darling wonderful husband can sympathize, but he isn't THERE.
I get a lot of comfort from knowing that I'm not the only one who needs to vent - (that's a big thanks to all my follow nursies out there btw).
That said, I've gotten annoyed at some things I've heard folks at work say - I may vent but I keep it out of work and certainly NEVER where a patient might hear it.
Hugs to alla us nursy types!
- 0Oct 29, '06 by TweetyYou're entitled to express your opinion, despite it being a minority opinion, without being told "get over yourself".
I'm a bit torn. I hear similar things in the breakroom that I read on those threads, and really it amounts to no more than disrespectful gossip in the guise of "venting".
I think that as long as patient care is not compromised, there's probably no harm done.