*UNEMPLOYED NURSES* - page 5
Ello~ I'm just curious to know, for those of you who are unemployed nurses, exactly how long have you been looking for work? What are you (LPN,RN,BSN-RN,MSN-NP,etc.) How many previous years of... Read More
6Feb 4, '11 by Trinitas2010RN[quote=bree*;4767116]ello~[/quote]Quote from bree*i been looking exactly for one year to the day as of this point.
i'm just curious to know, for those of you who are unemployed nurses, exactly how long have you been looking for work?
what are you (lpn,rn,bsn-rn,msn-np,etc.)
i'm a rn (diploma program.) have b.s. in finance as well.
how many previous years of experience do you have?
none. unless you count an externship that i've done.
where are you located?
northern new jersey. 20 mins drive outside time square nyc proper.
how many applications do you think you have placed?
maybe 400 hundred. (i apply to everything. even if i don't really have a chance.) i will say that i did slow myself down in december and will take my time more when searching.
what about interviews?
3 interviews with no calls back or rejection.
add anything else that you want! vent, tell us how you really feel, give your opinions/outlooks on everything.
well measuring on the scale of death and dying by girraffe................
...i've reached acceptance of the situation. and since i have be somewhat trained to understand the economy. i can take a view that the current situation is just part the the process of our economy recalibrating itself to a "new normal." i think longer term the future will be much better for nurses and there will be enough jobs that are either made or become open so most that are looking for work will find it.
2Feb 4, '11 by Eeyore_fanI am a RN-BSN. I've been looking for a job for about 6 months. I have 10 months of nursing experience. I don't really know how many applications I've filled out this round - at least 10. I have had 5 interviews since I started this particular job search (I had 10 interviews before I got my first job).
At this point, I'm just getting tired. There is a lot I could say about this whole job search (and my first job search), but I don't feel like getting into it publicly. I know there are many people who are in similar situations. Somehow we have to keep our heads up and not miss out on the rest of life (even though it feels like much of our attention revolves around our job search).
3Feb 4, '11 by lelafinThis thread is freaking me out! Should I quit nursing school and get a psych degree instead...? I decided against psych initially because nursing seemed like the safer choice job-wise.
4Feb 4, '11 by madwife2002, BSN, RN Senior ModeratorWhat is happening where I work is that RN's who dont have good time management skills or struggle to prioritize their work load are being frowned upon as being less efficient. All employers care about these days are their productivity numbers. There is less money to play with at the moment due to a variety of reasons so they opt for the cheaper version which is the experienced nurse, we all know this is false economy.
I do however believe that it will turn around once colleges slow down their intake for even a yr.
I urge all the new grads to be patient and you will get your change just not as quickly as you would like.
Just keep your ear to the ground and continue to apply for jobs-it will be your day one day.
Remember you have worked hard and it will pay off in the end.
3Feb 4, '11 by NewTexasRNQuote from bree*That's exactly why I stopped at LPN! I got to see nursing for what it is. I swear the hospitals I was at were literally 90%+ foreign nurses. How do I know? You can barely understand their English! I just don't understand why they are still hiring foreigners with all of these capable/willing U.S. nurses.
It all boils down to money.
1Feb 4, '11 by netglowQuote from bree*Chicagoland North to the Wisconsin Border. Talking about RNs. They will hire ADN/BSN/MSN edu here as techs though, you're just way low on the totem pole for RN.Well I'm in NYC so that's no big surprise I guess..and nope, I only count RNs...when I say 90%+ are foreign, I'm speaking about the RNs.
9RN-BSN in Southern California, Orange County. Graduated in August 2010 and passed boards in October. 214 applications in state and out; no calls, no interviews. Even the military is full for the entire year. Its pretty bleak out there.
I love being an RN but its hard to love when it doesn't put food on the table. I know we are being told to be patient but if you look at the numbers it really doesn't make sense. Its something I should of looked at way back when I started school. If hospitals increased hiring by 200% tomorrow, there is still no way they could work through the literally thousands of new grad RNs in backlog without taking many many years. This doesn't take into account all the new graduates who graduate each semester with no jobs available. With the current situation, it's like trying to dig your way out of a sand pit with a teaspoon.Last edit by B52-H on Feb 4, '11
2Quote from jolietteYup, I'm here in NYC as well. Can't find work to SAVE MY LIFE. I have even tried to volunteer for FREE and was rejected. I've said I will work as a CNA, etc. just doesn't work. NYC is probably a really bad place for finding any kind of job right now..esp. nurse jobs!@ lovelynyc OMG you in NYC and can't find work. I'm in New Jersey, passed NCLEX in August 2010. I just applied for my NY license, hoping that I would get a job there. After reading your post, I feel like I been hit by a bullet.
13One of the places that I spoke to said they are averaging near 150 QUALIFIED applicants PER nursing position. I don't care what ANYONE says about "nursing getting better"..not even the baby boomers can cover that...and don't forget about the 100 new (if not more?) associate/accelerated nursing programs out there...2 years and you have another what 10,000+ new nurses every year? Anyone that can do do math knows that the baby boom isn't going to save us worth a gosh darn and I'm actually amazed that some people are on here talking about going into a nursing program! Yikes. Well...I'm not paying the tuition on that one, so I'll keep my little snout where it should be. I'm big enough to admit that I want to slap myself SILLY for leaving my nearly 50k simple little desk job (union too) to follow my passion..but I'm trying to cheer up about it, because I purposely took the LPN route, rejected acceptance into a RN program, and gave it a shot before I would have ended up REALLY hating myself going for 4-5 years.
PS. Nurse Practitioners don't have much of a chance these days either! I worked with a TON of NP grads on my rotations...wanna know what they were doing? Working on the floor as RNs. Don't trick yourself into thinking that a BSN...then a MSN..then a PhD..etc. is going to help you. Stop listening to the college advisor/counselor/salesperson and listen to logic.
5there are more than 645 nursing schools in the u.s. that maintain membership with the american association of colleges of nursing as of 2010. these include undergraduate, graduate and post-graduate programs in both public and private colleges and universities.
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does anyone care to find out the actual number of nursing schools out there? i would love to do a mathematical equation on that...say for instance, there were only 645 nursing programs out there and they all ran on a semester schedule averaging 20 new nursing students per semester...and of those...only 13 out of 20 students ended up graduating/passing nclex...now let's do the math...even though we all know the numbers are much higher...let's just low ball it to give ourselves an idea.
645 nursing programs x 2 semesters x 13 who "made it"= 16,770 brand spanking new nurses per year.
that's "small scale" scary already. i don't want to know the truth because i guarantee it's a lot higher.
5This is how I see the future nursing crisis everyone keeps talking about turning out:
It turns out to be like Y2K. Lots of hype, wild predictions and panic, but passes by without much of a hitch. I read recently that with the current amount of non-practicing RNs (Unemployed, New Grads, Current students, Left the field etc) in California, we have almost twice the number needed to meet the projected demand. Given the trouble everyone is having finding work across the country, I can imagine this is true for the whole US. Even if it turns out to be nothing, I guarantee it won't stop people from predicting some other impending nursing shortage 10 years from then.
The nursing crisis hits because older RNs are retiring together around the same time along with the baby boomers. The need for nurses will be exponentially worse because there will still be an overwhelming need for experienced nurses. This is because years and years of new grads were unable to find work, get trained or left the field leaving a huge gap of experience that will not be met no matter how many people you crank out from school. If I can't find work now because I do not have experience, its going to be 10 times worse if this scenario happens.
I think that some of the data out there about nursing shortages is valid and for good intentions (Better patient/staff ratio, increased awareness). But on the other hand I sense a bit of self preservation. Few things better call attention and funding to your career field than a looming crisis. Perks include a high demand for your occupation, significant pay increase and benefits. Its a bit sad, but I don't think the talk of a nursing crisis will every go away. It will always be 10 years from now or 20 years from now or when this generation retires.... (I know its a bit of conspiracy theory)
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5I go with your first prediction. I know a lot of people are counting on "older" nurses to retire..but ya know what? The older nurses were ahead of the game and took their pretty little fannies out of it before we got into the mess we did.
Of EVERY single rotation I have gone on..and EVERY single hospital visit I have had in the last year (in different parts of the country), I have only seen ONE RN that looked like she could have been near retirement age. She had a dandy job at a Dermatology office, so I don't blame her for not retiring. From what the nurses have told me themselves, and from what I have seen..seems around 85%+ of the nurses that I am running into are in their mid20s to late 40s. I mean..unless ALL of them are using some REALLY great face cream...totally not even buying into this nonsense about all of these people retiring...best case scenario every single nurse retires and ALL the baby boomers hit their downfall....the number is still NOT large enough to absorb the jobless nurses out there....if we're lucky, it may go from 150 QUALIFIED applicants per nursing position to a "meager" 50 applicants we have to compete with...lucky us!
4Quote from bree*I agree completely, granted I was limited to only southern California for rotations, but I only once thought to myself "Wow how old is she and how long has she been working here?!"Of EVERY single rotation I have gone on..and EVERY single hospital visit I have had in the last year (in different parts of the country), I have only seen ONE RN that looked like she could have been near retirement age.Last edit by B52-H on Feb 4, '11