To those who want to leave nursing - page 3
It seems like every time I come onto AN these days, every other post is "I'm sick of nursing/I want out". I understand the nature of this site and forum and all are welcome to come on and vent, but... Read More
9Oct 11, '11 by FixitQuote from imintroubleExactly. The 25 yr old newbie nurse is an Epic fail on therapeutic communications. Clueless as to what some of us are going through at work.If it were only that easy.
The OP is 25 yrs old. Everything was simpler when I was 25.
I guess the OP didn't pass the therapeutic communication part of the NCLEX.
1Oct 11, '11 by PunkBenRNQuote from ZooMommyRNCensor themselves? No, people will rant as they please. But am I denied the same right? Were you not compelled to reply to my post because it bothered you?So let me see if I understand this, you can rant and vent about something that bothers you, but feel others should censor themselves because it bothers you? Here's the beauty of a public forum, keep scrolling and don't read it.
Thank you carolmaccas66, not for agreeing or disagreeing but for a thoughtful response to my post.
And the 65 pt load was NOT manageable - the 45 load on the easiest floor in the NH was manageable. The 65 was most certainly not, especially being agency and not familiar with the environment. I went to the right people, spoke directly about my concerns, and they helped to make it manageable. I was very lucky that night, had I been alone I would have been in a very dangerous environment. Also, I consider psych pt to be high acuity, particularly when they are unpredictable or suicide watch. What I meant by low acuity would be walkie/talkie, A+O, independent - maybe stable COPD exacerbation, dehydration, UTI, hyponatriemia w/o AMS, etc
Again with the discrimination - I understand the fact that a lot of people have more experience than me. Offer your experience and allow it to serve as a merit towards your response. Yes, many people in this world know much more than I do. But do not detract from my main point due to the fact that I am young or inexperienced. If you disagree with my post, please validate it with more than my age.
I don't know how to make it more clear - this is not an attack on people ranting or venting on AN. It is therapeutic to vent amongst peers in your profession, but I don't see how constructive a post is when you make threats about leaving the profession entirely. I am sympathetic to those who are struggling and when nursing gets hard. But if you are really miserable enough to repeatedly post about hating nursing enough to want to leave the profession entirely, yet you make every excuse why you can't, I can't feel entirely empathetic. Sometimes life circumstances are hard and don't leave much wiggle room - why not talk about this to your family, manager, co-workers? These people may be able to help you make the situation more bearable. Posters on AN may be able to offer emotional support, but the situation remains the same.
12Oct 11, '11 by carolmaccas66Quote from PunkBenRNOK, so you admit you knew this post would generate heat. That is a risk u take when posting something.Yeah, I am only 25. Before you start making ageist assumptions on my path to today, let me clear something up. Since 15 years old, I have been working full time (32-40 hours). I have been paying my own rent, food, and transportation since 16. I have been in retail, roofing/construction, food service, traffic control, factory work, farm work, sales, and I did work at a humane society for three years prior to nursing. For what student loans I could qualify for I am indebted. Everything else was out of pocket, and required 40-50 hour work weeks while going through school full time. At the busiest point in my life, I was working three jobs and 75-80 hours a week. I do agree that my youth leaves room for naivety, but I worked HARD to be where I am today. I love what I do, and I would do it all over again.
As far as not reading the posts, I tried. I generally pass right over them - the reason why I posted is the flood of topics related to this subject. I didn't want to troll or single anybody out, so I felt it would be more rude to reply to those posts. My problem is not related to nurses that are frustrated, burnt out, had negative experiences.... I like those posts and offer my support as I can. To those who come on here to bash nursing as a whole without allowing the option of reprisal or change, I have no tolerance.
I knew this post would generate some heat...
But I REALLY have to say this: YOU THINK NONE OF US WORKED HARD TO GET WHERE WE WERE?? Matey, I tell you, some of us have had WAAAY more hard lives than you! I've known nurses who worked full time and were single mums AND studied as well to pass their degree - my gf is a CN now. I did a 6 week clinical with NO MONEY FROM ANYONE - my government wouldn't help & family could only help minimally. I even went BEGGING to the Salvation Army & other charity places - no-one would help out. I economised, I lived on 2 min noodles & rice mixed with cheap tuna; I walked to many places; I got threatening letters re my bills - anything to get thru the last 6 weeks of study to pass. NOBODY cared that I was a student & less that I was a nursing student. Nobody gave me a break.
Many of us have worked longer years in nursing & in hospitals/other facilities than you. We get it. We know nursing is stressful, we get fed up, we get tired of dealing with the same whiny patients, turning up with the same problems again and again and again, we get TIRED of giving so much of our soul to others. Many of us do look for other jobs, the world economy isn't that great now. Life isn't as easy as you make it out to be!
Give some people on here a break, hey?
1Oct 11, '11 by PunkBenRNQuote from Sun_danc3rRNTo put it bluntly, BFD! We have ALL worked hard to get where we are! We all have lives, spouses, children, have had crappy jobs, some even including nursing. Alot of us are drowning in debt with student loans, mortgages, car payments, have one income, etc. I was a 15yr old high school drop out who had a baby, and worked to get my high school diploma, even when they didnt have programs to bring your baby to school in 1984. This is just the beginning of the story of education that myself, my husband, and kids went through while I earned 3 degrees, my husband earned 2, and each of our 3 children earned a college degree. We all have our stories..which in my opinion gives us all the right to vent. I don't know about anyone else, but I come here to vent and read because I have no support system at home that understand the trials and tribulations of being a nurse. And you know what the days that I want to leave nursing it is the mortgage, the car payments, the student loan payments, my husbands monthly medical expenses with insurance, that make it so I just can't walk away from it. While I am on this subject, how DARE you state as you did in your original post that MY patient care suffers. I might not always like my job, but I am ALWAYS professional as are 99% of the men and women I work with. Come back and evaluate the validity of your post in a few years, I bet you change your tune on that. And PS if it bugs you so much to see it then don't read the posts. I don't believe being on allnurses.com is a job requirement anywhere, so you should be ok.
BFD? Yeah, it shouldn't be a big deal but my credibility was called into question. I was adding a little perspective because otherwise I am just a 25 year old idiot who is incapable of life experiences. I am not going to compare war stories.
11Oct 11, '11 by NJMikeQuote from leslie :-D^^^This.don't you think that nurses with 10x your experience, or twice your age, don't know the pitfalls in nsg?
...or know what they could/should do in ea and every situation?
to condescendingly infer this to your experienced peers, is an insult in itself.
from your post, i can see you haven't experienced the half of it.
and fwiw, sometimes your resolutions work, most times they don't.
nsg is an extremely backstabbing business, where often those who try to sabotage you, are the ones who stay...
and the ones who try and advocate/speak-up, are the ones who are harrassed/bullied and even terminated.
i really wish it was all as black and white as you purport it to be.
but it's not.
only when you've seen it often enough, will you understand.
it's not always a matter of "wanting" to leave.
equally as notable, there are just as many who feel pushed out/away from nsg.
until you truly know of what you speak, sometimes it's wiser to just observe the world around you...
and recognize there's much validity of what the posters vent about.
that must be respected as well.
every single nurse here, knows the personal and professional rewards that a pt's words can bring.
but they are not enough to sustain the overall reality of what nsg really entails.
i hope you never understand what i'm talking about.
OP has no clue what this profession requires in the long run.
0Oct 11, '11 by SNB1014oh please everyone. get off her back. i assume she did pass the theraputic communication portion of nclex. in psych nursing clinical i remember a very important theraputic communication tool was PRESENTING REALITY!
this is a site to vent on, yes. ppl come here on the worst days. when you are having your best day, you are busy having your best day and wouldn't "waste" your time talking about it, no?
a lot of the "sick of nursing" posts receive oodles of coddling from fellow nurses. truth hurts. assess your own sitch and make some changes or shush up.
to OP, thank you for presenting reality!
2Oct 11, '11 by SNB1014AND TO BOOT: wow, wow wow.....no joke about nurses eating their young. if only we didnt know s/he was 25, maybe the POV would have ben better received. you might night have like the straightforward, blunt post the OP wrote, but step back and take a look and the flat out witchy replies. how is YOUR bedside communication, i may ask?
7Oct 11, '11 by nurse15dcQuote from SNB1014An inarticulate "Wow wow wow" back to you! I guess by "ben" you meant been. Have you or OP PunkBen ever EVEN bothered to to notice how much YOUNG nurses EAT THE OLD!!! Get over yourself. We who have been in nursing have EARNED the RIGHT and are allowed to vent. If you and op have a problem with it reading AN is NOT a job requirement.AND TO BOOT: wow, wow wow.....no joke about nurses eating their young. if only we didnt know s/he was 25, maybe the POV would have ben better received. you might night have like the straightforward, blunt post the OP wrote, but step back and take a look and the flat out witchy replies. how is YOUR bedside communication, i may ask?