Got an email saying that we are encouraged to have our MSN by 2017

[pheonixRN]

Anyone else got this bomb dropped on you?? Partial tuition reimbursement will be given. I thought that getting a BSN would keep them happy. When will it be encouraged that we are all NPs or PAs or MDs?

[CrunchRN, ADN, RN]

llg - I made an ASS(out of me)umption also. Good point.

[OCNRN63, RN]

They can encourage all they want....who would do that an work nights, holiday and weekends.

Something pushed out by academics to ensure their own job security.

Unbelievable....another push to remove RN's from the bedside and have them "overseeing" non licensed personnel....

BINGO! People say, "Oh, they'll never replace nurses in the hospital with MAs!" Sure. Just look at how many things the RN used to do that are now delegated to the nursing assistants. They (hospital admin.) are going to keep shifting responsibilities to non-nurses because it keeps the bottom line healthy. Never mind that patients will suffer for this; profit before patients, right?

What is this facility going to do with all of those Master's prepared nurses in their hospital? Nursing is hard enough with the current entry level. I can't imagine having to deal with people yelling at you because they don't like their meal tray, belligerent family members, doctors cursing you out for no particular reason other than they can, etc.

Imagine going through all that work to have an MSN and then not being able to put it to use. What an utterly foolish proposition.

[OCNRN63, RN]

​Looks like I added to the pile-on. Come back, OP, come back! Details, we need details!

[RNperdiem, RN]

Degree inflation at work...

[Rose_Queen, BSN, MSN, RN]

I'm joining the group reserving judgement until we get more details. However, I don't view more education as a bad thing. More education can open more doors than less. I am currently in an MSN education program. I still intend to work at the bedside after graduation, but my goal is to also add an adjunct faculty position and then, as I age and maybe can no longer handle the physical aspects of bedside nursing, to transition into a full-time education position. Do I need that MSN to work bedside? No, but it's a personal satisfaction/growth and planning for the future kind of thing.

[lisajtrn]

We have had BSN entry to practice for some time now and I agree it is a ploy to move the RN away from the bedside and have less expensive RPN"s /LPN's replace us.

[GM2RN]

BINGO! People say, "Oh, they'll never replace nurses in the hospital with MAs!" Sure. Just look at how many things the RN used to do that are now delegated to the nursing assistants. They (hospital admin.) are going to keep shifting responsibilities to non-nurses because it keeps the bottom line healthy. Never mind that patients will suffer for this; profit before patients, right?

What is this facility going to do with all of those Master's prepared nurses in their hospital? Nursing is hard enough with the current entry level. I can't imagine having to deal with people yelling at you because they don't like their meal tray, belligerent family members, doctors cursing you out for no particular reason other than they can, etc.

Imagine going through all that work to have an MSN and then not being able to put it to use. What an utterly foolish proposition.

I'm curious...what do CNAs do at your hospital that RNs used to do? Where I work, CNAs on the floor mostly just take vitals, assist with bedpans and the like. In the ER, they also start IVs, put in foleys, and do EKGs, but they have also had some things taken away, like the ability to hang IV fluid boluses. I've seen others before make a statement similar to yours but no details have been given, so I'm wondering.

[Esme12, ASN, BSN, RN]

I'm curious...what do CNAs do at your hospital that RNs used to do? Where I work, CNAs on the floor mostly just take vitals, assist with bedpans and the like. In the ER, they also start IVs, put in foleys, and do EKGs, but they have also had some things taken away, like the ability to hang IV fluid boluses. I've seen others before make a statement similar to yours but no details have been given, so I'm wondering.

what state allows CNA's to start/regulate IVF? That is not safe.

[GM2RN]

what state allows CNA's to start/regulate IVF? That is not safe.

Michigan. Technically they are EDTs.

[That Guy, BSN, RN, EMT-B]

what state allows CNA's to start/regulate IVF? That is not safe.

Start IVs but not fluids once trained in Wyoming too.

[pheonixRN]

Yes I am sorry I was vague. I work on a m/s unit in Arizona. It did say "encouraged". I would copy the email, but being as how big this website is lol, I am sure it could bite me griping about it. I am thinking it is an incentive so to speak, but I do know that they are NOT actively choosing ADNs to hire on, and the ones on the unit are grandfathered in and are more than encouraged to get their BSN. I have been told that it is mandatory. Also I was being a smart*** when I said "what's next? NP,MD? I meant do they want to just get rid of us RNs all together and have a bunch of advanced practice nurses at the bedside. While it is not mandatory, it seems from the past experience that the word "Encouraged" often turns into... You better get your butt in gear if you like your paycheck.

[Marisette, BSN, RN]

They can encourage all they want....who would do that an work nights, holiday and weekends.

Something pushed out by academics to ensure their own job security.

Unbelievable....another push to remove RN's from the bedside and have them "overseeing" non licensed personnel.....

This is the new trend in healthcare, technicians are hired in cardiac cath., endoscopy, ER...

Then there's one overwhelmed RN trying to keep up with the medications and supervision.