New laws requiring LPNs and RNs to become BSN by 2016 - page 4

Hello, I'm an LPN (since 1993), and have recently learned that LPNs and 3-year/or diploma RNs are required to become BSNs before 2016 in order to keep their jobs. The change is apparently due to... Read More

  1. Visit  xoemmylouox} profile page
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    It's not going to happen in the next 2 years. M-a-y-b-e in 2040 or 2050, but I doubt it. They have said that LPNs will be phased out for how many years now? Hasn't happened. Now it is unlikely to get an inpatient position as an LPN, but some hospitals have started hiring them for certain inpatient positions. I do see a continued push to get all nurses to obtain a BSN (with little financial gain for the nurse of course), but that may slow down as well.
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  3. Visit  RNsRWe} profile page
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    This thread is a good example of why all threads should be locked after one year of inactivity.

    Outdated info begetting more outdated info!
  4. Visit  TheCommuter} profile page
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    Quote from Rose_Queen
    I honestly cannot see BSN requirement becoming law.
    In 1987 North Dakota had a law which had mandated that all RNs be educated at the baccalaureate (BSN) degree level and that all LPNs be educated at the associate of applied science (AAS) degree level in practical nursing.

    The law had to be repealed in 2003 because it could not be enforced adequately, especially in a sparsely populated upper Midwestern state that could not afford to turn away any nurses.
  5. Visit  elkpark} profile page
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    Quote from opdahlamber
    Iowa IS doing this. As of 2015 (April), if you have not already taken RN Boards, you will be getting a BSN. They are doing this by licensing restrictions. The first renewal is at 2 years, so at that time you must be ENROLLED in a BSN program. By the next renewal (3 years) you must have GRADUATED that program. If these requirements are not met, you will not be granted your license. RN's that take their Boards before then are obviously grandfathered in but a lot of the hospitals (even rural) are just flat out not hiring ADN grads anymore. It's a tough situation.
    I realize this is an old thread and old post. However, I recently saw another posting here about how Iowa is requiring this starting in 2015. I have searched the Internet for some other mention of this, and the closest I've come is some articles from 2012 about how a group called the RN-BSN Articulation Task Force is pushing this proposal, and that this would take effect IF the BON got new administrative rules passed through the legislature. Now, I've found an article in the IA BON newsletter (May/June/July 2013 issue) on this topic that includes the following statements:

    "During the September, 2012 meeting, Mary Tarbox, RN, EdD, Co-Chair of the RN to BSN Task Force of the Regional Action Coalition presented an update of the task force's work and a proposal for the board's consideration. The task force proposes a rule change in the Iowa Administrative Code for a RN to BSN licensure renewal requirement. During the October, 2012 conference call the board appointed members to the Education Standards of Practice committee and appointed Clyde Bradley, consumer, as committee chair. The committee met November 13, 2012 and December 13, 2012. The committee did not draft any rules for a RN to BSN licensure renewal requirement. ...
    The Iowa Board of Nursing will continue to support increasing the number of BSN pre- pared nurses in Iowa. Currently there are not any draft rules relating to the BSN educational requirement for licensure renewal. " (Emphasis mine)


    nursingald.com/uploads/publication/pdf/806/IBN5_13.pdf

    This sounds to me like it's the same as the national discussion (and mandatory-DNP-for-advanced-practice discussion), the educational people in the state are pushing for it but the BON isn't biting. Does anyone else have any different or more current info? I do try to keep up with these things.

    Thanks v. much!

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  6. Visit  Rose_Queen} profile page
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    Quote from TheCommuter
    In 1987 North Dakota had a law which had mandated that all RNs be educated at the baccalaureate (BSN) degree level and that all LPNs be educated at the associate of applied science (AAS) degree level in practical nursing.

    The law had to be repealed in 2003 because it could not be enforced adequately, especially in a sparsely populated upper Midwestern state that could not afford to turn away any nurses.
    Which just proves that a law requiring a BSN would backfire and be impractical.
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  7. Visit  jadelpn} profile page
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    And just as an aside, there's more than one nurse manager who will start talks of "BSN in 10", wrap it up as a "law" or a "mandate" and sell it to not only upper management (who are usually not nurses, therefore, really are taking word over proof) but to the nurses as well (you need to be/get your BSN or you will not have a job).

    They can then hire new BSN's at a great deal less of a cost, work their way to "magnet" or to make the patient "feel better" or some other feather on their cap, and as a pp pointed out--current nurses who believe they are required to have a BSN and get it---are paid very, very little in addition to their current salary. (most around 25 cents more an hour).

    I don't know what the answer is, other than as of late, a bachelors in customer service is probably more helpful at bedside...
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  8. Visit  cje1015} profile page
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    Yea it is so competitive to get into a bsn program nowadays.
  9. Visit  lovinglife2015} profile page
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    Who is your source? This is exactly how misinformation spreads.
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  10. Visit  LadyFree28} profile page
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    Here we go...
  11. Visit  Rose_Queen} profile page
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    OP is more than a year old… can't we just let this one disappear into the old thread bin?
  12. Visit  kbrn2002} profile page
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    Quote from Rose_Queen
    OP is more than a year old… can't we just let this one disappear into the old thread bin?
    Have to admit I've been guilty of this...respond to a post only to realize after I hit "post comment" that I'm commenting on something so old the poster probably doesn't even remember it anymore. Feels pretty foolish!


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