Threatened dismissal because of wrinkly clothes :0( - page 9

Hey everyone, I was just trying to get some opinions of an incident that happened to me recently. I was pulled aside by the director of my nursing program, and was told that if I wore wrinkly... Read More

  1. by   GEMINI06
    Okay gals and guys.....what is the real issue here - wrinkled clothes? or immediate dismissal from nursing school because of them?
    To the wrinkled clothes I say there are many great suggestions here that work, so try them and see what works best for you.
    My school program hated our nursing uniforms and so we formed a committee that conducted a literature review and some research. We found some suprising results: 1) The majority of the public really does prefer a nurse in all white. Concepts of preofessionalism, hygiene (including wrinkle free clothes, short nails, no body/facial piercings) did make a difference in how clients perceived care givers and their competency. All pointing to the fact that it is not just the school and crabby clinical teachers that want us looking spruce, but the people we will be caring for!!!! - Is that the way the world should work? Debatable, but for now it is. 2)Have any of you ever taught or been a leader in a group that had to wear uniforms? When deciding on a uniform, it is not an easy task. There is always a certain level or resistance and rebellion (consciously and subconsciously - like not ironing the uniform). Let's look at it from the clinical instructor's point of view - they are responsible for every thing their students do at clinical from passing meds to wiping rears. It is their job to make sure the students are competent and performing safe effective care. This includes making sure the students are following dress code and uniforms are neat, clean and professional looking. From experience it is far easier to take a strict stance on uniform interpretation rather than give liberties to students. Uniforms become one more thing teachers have to "police" and it would be nice if people would just not fight the system. What happenes when one clinical instructor lets you get away with being wrinkled and another wants to dismiss you from school altogether?? Situations quickly get out of hand. Our program had the problem or stating students should wear khaki pants - Do you have any idea how many colors, cuts, fabrics, styles, etc. of "khaki pants" are on the market? We had people come to clinicals in everything from khaki scub bottoms to shiny low-rise hip-huggers. At any rate, a few instructors never said anything, others fussed up a storm. So what did we do - we released a strict interpretation of "khaki pants" until the committee determined the new uniform, leaving very little room for creative interpretation.
    Let's not blame the clinical instructors and school for wanting professional looking students, it takes more than one side to have a conflict.
    What is freightening is that the clinical instructor did not have the gonads to correct the situation with a simple discussion - Maybe along the lines of are you overwhelmed with school and work - do you not have enough time to prepare yourself....you know the good old nursing approach of find out what the root of the problem is by talking to someone?! Boy did that instructor miss a major mentoring opportunity! Being sent home from clinical is one thing, being dismissed from school quite another. If that is how the program treats their students, I would question the integrity of the school and the instructor. Good luck to you!
    Last edit by GEMINI06 on Oct 15, '06
  2. by   truern
    I confess....I'm a neat freak.

    I iron my scrubs...yes indeedy, I do. I even spray a bit of starch on the creases.

    <blush>
  3. by   CHATSDALE
    don't like starch because it can set in wrinkles touch up uniformwith iron

    but basically you should look professional...if someone notices that you don't look up to par i bet it is because you don't

    people don't realized how THEY smell but they can always notice that in other people
  4. by   carolinapooh
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    Forget the wrinkly clothes; it just proves you are working hard. As far as the stinky student; get over your natural smell and save the rest of from your offense. Your comments about wiping patients butts and there just unconscious anyway are distasteful and show nothing but ignorance on your part.

    You must be a dream as a lab partner. Stuck up and smelly at the same time.

    Anyone who believes natural body odor smells better than deodorant has never been stuck in an elevator in Paris with fourteen Parisians for an hour, or walked through a busy marketplace in Saudi Arabia in the middle of July at around two pm.

    I've done both.

    Trust me - if they'd done even one of those things, they'd have a new appreciation for chemical suppressants!
  5. by   WDWpixieRN
    I iron my scrubs for clinicals because I like the way they look better, but with NS becoming so intense (and I'm wanting some kind of a life outside of school), so I've been debating continuing the practice...I asked fellow students last clinicals if they iron their uniforms....they looked at me like I was an alien!! I might try going one week without ironing, but I'm not sure how happy I'll be....there is, however, a distinct difference between slightly wrinkled and just out of the hamper wrinkled!!
  6. by   mercyteapot
    Quote from carolinapooh
    Anyone who believes natural body odor smells better than deodorant has never been stuck in an elevator in Paris with fourteen Parisians for an hour, or walked through a busy marketplace in Saudi Arabia in the middle of July at around two pm.

    I've done both.

    Trust me - if they'd done even one of those things, they'd have a new appreciation for chemical suppressants!
    Yep, when it comes to the thought of myself emanating any of the unfortunate odors the human body is known to produce, I am a big believer in better living through chemistry!
  7. by   firstyearstudent
    Well, it wasn't all that long ago that gals here in the States thought they had to douche with Lysol to make sure they were odor free. Better living through chemistry indeed.

    http://www.mum.org/lysol1.htm
  8. by   Multicollinearity
    Oh this topic.

    Firstyear - I don't think too many women douche these days. It's not good for you. But under-arm deodorant like you mentioned previously? I think it's just common courtesy to not stink around others. If you are concerned about health effects of common antipersperants you might want to try the natural 'crystal' type. I am concerned about possible health effects of antipersperants but stinking isn't an option to me.
    Last edit by Multicollinearity on Oct 17, '06
  9. by   firstyearstudent
    I think if I stink, I should wash. I don't know if I have to be absolutely odor free. How far does one have to go to accommodate other people? If I'm unattractive (and that's something most people would probably say about me, actually) am I obligated to have plastic surgery or cover my face? Some of my classmates have told me repeatedly that I should wear makeup. It's my face, live with it. I do.
  10. by   Multicollinearity
    I can't compare make-up with wearing deodorant. I refuse to wear lipstick anymore for philosophical reasons. But that's just my 'thing.'

    But I won't offend other's airspace. These are different issues to me.

    You must have some immature and ultra-conventional classmates! I can't fathom telling someone they should wear makeup. I'm sorry you are experiencing such disrespectful behavior from your classmates.
    Last edit by Multicollinearity on Oct 17, '06
  11. by   dbscandy
    I'd like to know the philosophical reasons you don't wear lip stick...I don't because it feels like jelly smeared on my lips, but I do like the way it looks for a little color.

    And first year, if you think you are unattractive, why would you want to run the risk of having an odor, too? Unattractive AND stinky? Pleeeeze!!!
  12. by   firstyearstudent
    Quote from dbscandy
    I'd like to know the philosophical reasons you don't wear lip stick...I don't because it feels like jelly smeared on my lips, but I do like the way it looks for a little color.

    And first year, if you think you are unattractive, why would you want to run the risk of having an odor, too? Unattractive AND stinky? Pleeeeze!!!
    I would run that risk because I don't care.

    I'm interested in the philosophical opposition to lipstick also. It sounds about as ridiculous as my philosophical opposition to deodorant!
  13. by   Multicollinearity
    Quote from dbscandy
    And first year, if you think you are unattractive, why would you want to run the risk of having an odor, too? Unattractive AND stinky? Pleeeeze!!!
    Unattractive and stinky?! That is so unkind.

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