Vent: I absolutely HATE stupidity! Not ignorance.....STUPIDITY!! - page 5

5-month-old baby sent from the clinic 10 miles away for a respiratory workup. Baby arrived in an infant carrier with a heavy furry blanket over him. Remove that blanket and find Baby resting on top... Read More

  1. by   gonzo1
    I wish there was mandatory helmet laws in all states. I always ride with a full face helmet but everyone else in my family refuses to wear one unless traveling cross country into states where you have to. Needless to say, I like the cross country trips the best because there is no room on bike to store helmet so it is always worn.
    No matter how much preaching I do about the cycle accidents that come into my ER, the husband and son won't listen and wear a helmet. Very sad.
  2. by   burn out
    I don't quite understand what medicaid has to do with it..maybe these people don't receive it. I guess stupidity comes in all income level not just for the poor.
  3. by   morte
    Quote from ktwlpn
    I understand the post to be a diatribe against stupid "medicaid moms" in general.I don't see how it can be taken any other way.Read mine again-My point is only that "stupid" cuts through all socio-ecomomic backrounds and as long as the death of a child is considered "acceptable loss" then stupid parents will not be punished and this behavior will continue....Getting 1 to 1 instruction regarding childcare is no guarantee that the knowledge gathered will be retained and applied-obviously...We debated here a few years ago about a case outside of Philadelphia -2 young children were left outside with a running riding mower.....The 7 yr old hopped on and killed his 2 yr old sister.The parents were DEVASTATED--mom was at Kmart and dad LEFT THE 2 KIDS OUT THERE ALONE WITH A RUNNING RIDING MOWER..There was no prosecution.It's murder-pure and simple-and that's my point..That's what it will take for this type of negligent behavior to stop-each and every time a child is killed through the stupiditity of a parent that parent needs to be prosecuted for murder.No matter what color their skin or how much money they make there SHOULD BE NO EXCUSES...
    kt....i think YOU are reading into th op's post to suit your own biases...read literally there is NO inference of generalized stupidity.......
  4. by   Jelli_Belli
    On the subject of stupidity and children in cars... Parents who smoke with their children in the car with them enrage me:angryfire ! It bothers me even more than unrestrained kids in a car. I just cringe when I see a little kid strapped in a car seat in the back of a car while Mom is puffing a Newport with only a little sliver of driver's side window down for ventilation. We all know smoking and second hand smoke is harmful, there is just no excuse.
    The other day I stopped for gas and when I pulled in there was a car with, I am assuming, a Mom and Dad smoking in front seats and two toddlers and a 4 year old in the back. The Mom was ahead of me in line in the store and I guess she must have known the cashier because when the cashier asked her how her kids were she said, "They have been sick for two weeks now, they have colds and are coughing up a storm." At this point I just could not hold my tounge any longer and told her "I know this is none of my business, and I am only mentioning it because you may not know, but having your children cooped up in a car and in the house with you while you smoke can greatly attribute to theie respiratory illness and can cause further damage, possibly leading to asthma and other problems."
    Needless to say, she did have a great epiphany right there in the store and vow to never harm her kids like that again. In fact she bought a carton of cigarettes, looked me directly in the eye on her way out the door, lit a cigarette, and walked back to her car.
    Sigh, sometimes I wish people needed a license to breed.
  5. by   tvccrn
    Quote from mercyteapot
    I am all for banning cell phone use in the car. To me, regulation of what people goes too far, because really, as long as one eats an otherwise healthy diet, an occasional splurge at McDonald's can't kill them. One trip in the car without the seatbelt can.

    I know you're not the one who mentioned government overstepping its bounds, but I'm going to combine my thoughts about that into this post. If the government can license drivers, require car registration, and maintain the roads (I know they don't always do a great job in this regard, but it is their charge), then IMHO they can always mandate safety requirements within that car.
    In New York state, it's a violation for using the cell phone while driving and you CAN be stop for that alone. I think it shoukld be the law in every state. And don't think that the hands-free option is any better. It's just as distracting as holding the phone to your ear.

    tvccrn
  6. by   tvccrn
    Quote from Fuzzy
    Pets also should secured in the car. I know of one wreck where the dog was jumping from seat to seat. The driver was distracted and he pulled out in front of a semi. Seven lives were lost. The youngest was 1 year old. The family was moving to another state to begin a new life.
    Another instance involved a dog riding loose in the back of a pick-up with no tail gate. The driver slammed on the brakes. The dog flew out of the truck and landed on the hood of the vehicle following behind. The lab broke the windshield upon impact. Thankfully no one (including the dog) was hurt.
    There have also been cases where the cat or small dog has gotten tangled up in the gas and/or brake pedal and caused a wreck or a near miss.
    Treat the pets like childern in the car----restrain them.

    Fuzzy

    So very true. Thank you for reminding us that it isn't just humans that are in danger. The animals have to rely on us to keep them safe and a lot of people do a very poor job at it.

    tvccrn
  7. by   tvccrn
    I have had a family member killed by not wearing a seatbelt and one killed while riding in the back of a truck.

    Funny thing is, the one not wearing a seatbelt....he was usually a fanatic about wearing it, but was only going to the store down the street so he didn't think it was necessary. The restrained driver walked away with only bruises.

    In the early 1970's, my cousin was sitting in the back of a truck and fell out when the truck turned a corner. By the police estimates that match the witnesses statements...the truck was doing about 10 miles an hour. So speed doesn't always factor in. From then on, none of the kids in our family was allowed in the back of the trucks.

    tvccrn
  8. by   blueberrybon
    A previous poster already mentioned this to some extent, but consumer reports recently did a test on car seats. The results were horrible. For those who want to know if their car seats are safe or not, here is the site:

    ConsumerReports.org - Infant car seats 2/07: Safety alert, European models, Ratings

    direct quote from that site:

    "Of 12 infant seats we tested, only 2 performed well: the Baby Trend Flex-Loc and the Graco SnugRide with EPS. "

    Wow...

    Blue
  9. by   HitmanCFYA
    I wear a 3" wide 5-point harness, wear a multi-layer nomex firesuit, nomex gloves, a neck collar, and a SFI approved helmet. I drive a car whose chassis is certified every 3 years, has SFI approved wheels, SFI approved shields on the transmission and under the oil pan, as well as many other approved items all in the name of keeping me safe as I drive almost 176mph down the track.

    yet, the most dangerous time is when some clown in a small car pulls in front of our 80 foot long rig on the way to the track, and thinks we can stop it as quickly as they can.

    When you see big trucks, or vehicles hauling trailers, please be courteous of them, and allow them plenty of space. 80 foot long rig into the back of your Civic will negate any benefits of your seatbelts.
  10. by   TazziRN
    Quote from HitmanCFYA
    I wear a 3" wide 5-point harness, wear a multi-layer nomex firesuit, nomex gloves, a neck collar, and a SFI approved helmet. I drive a car whose chassis is certified every 3 years, has SFI approved wheels, SFI approved shields on the transmission and under the oil pan, as well as many other approved items all in the name of keeping me safe as I drive almost 176mph down the track.

    yet, the most dangerous time is when some clown in a small car pulls in front of our 80 foot long rig on the way to the track, and thinks we can stop it as quickly as they can.

    When you see big trucks, or vehicles hauling trailers, please be courteous of them, and allow them plenty of space. 80 foot long rig into the back of your Civic will negate any benefits of your seatbelts.
    Sorry, I think this comes under the definition of ignorance. I agree, big rigs need extra room, but not everyone knows this.
  11. by   GrnHonu99
    Wow guys. This is pretty simple. Wear your seatbelt. Seatbelts save lives. If you were to get into a wreck you would want to be wearing one. I mean WHY NOT??? What's the big deal, just put it on.

    ok. second. to the OP, I understand what you are saying about medicaid..not meant to be derrogatory. Medcaid provides their patients with pre natal education, including a free car seat and explicit instructions on how to use it. I have private insurance, I have to buy my own. Either way we both have car seats and should know how to use them. There are no excuses for NOT using one. EVERYONE of all classes have access to car seats and instructions on how to use them. I think the oP intended to say that ignorance or cost can't be used as an excuse.

    And for the person who just HAD to bring race into it..for goodness sakes..this isn't a race issue. Wear your seat belt, use a car seat, period.
  12. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from hitmancfya
    i wear a 3" wide 5-point harness, wear a multi-layer nomex firesuit, nomex gloves, a neck collar, and a sfi approved helmet. i drive a car whose chassis is certified every 3 years, has sfi approved wheels, sfi approved shields on the transmission and under the oil pan, as well as many other approved items all in the name of keeping me safe as i drive almost 176mph down the track.

    yet, the most dangerous time is when some clown in a small car pulls in front of our 80 foot long rig on the way to the track, and thinks we can stop it as quickly as they can.

    when you see big trucks, or vehicles hauling trailers, please be courteous of them, and allow them plenty of space. 80 foot long rig into the back of your civic will negate any benefits of your seatbelts.
    as the wife of a logging truck driver i have to say thank you!!!

    you are so right - on the race track, going faster than folks go on the freeway, you are safer and you do wear all your safety gear.

    and yet, people make such dumb mistakes on the highway and freeways and residential streets.

    i almost think we should have refresher courses every few years - remember, if you can't see the truck driver in his side mirror, he can't see you and so please don't tailgate. also, don't pull out in front of a bigrig . . . we can't stop on a dime. and a seatbelt won't help you then.


    steph
  13. by   CHATSDALE
    i am glad to see someone mention the big trucks..a guy i know says that riding his motorcycles close behind the big rigs gives him wind protection and saves on gas [worried about gas milage on a motorcycle???]

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