This article insults nursing as a lower skilled job - page 7

i just read this article that down plays the work and hard study that rn's all put in to obtain a degree in college or a university. i feel insulted and plan to write them. :angryfire and a i am... Read More

  1. by   mercyteapot
    Quote from Thunderwolf
    A little more respect, please...all the way around. No attacks or flames.

    Respect your meter---> Warn: (0%)

    Please note previous post.
    What? Huh? By previous post, do you mean the one immediately previous? Because I don't understand why asking for clarification about the "you ladies" comment would warrant a warning. I'm trying to get at- does this person, presumably a guy, but mustn't make assumptions- have the impression that only women participate in these threads (or for that matter, in that type of behavior of which he speaks?) Now, OTOH, perhaps you mean some other previous post, in which case, nevermind.
  2. by   Tweety
    Quote from mercyteapot
    What? Huh? By previous post, do you mean the one immediately previous? Because I don't understand why asking for clarification about the "you ladies" comment would warrant a warning. I'm trying to get at- does this person, presumably a guy, but mustn't make assumptions- have the impression that only women participate in these threads (or for that matter, in that type of behavior of which he speaks?) Now, OTOH, perhaps you mean some other previous post, in which case, nevermind.
    Mercy, you causing trouble again??
  3. by   mercyteapot
    Quote from Tweety
    Mercy, you causing trouble again??
    It would appear that way, wouldn't it?
  4. by   Thunderwolf
    The meter reference was related to the negative energy that Marie_LPN and ceecel.dee have pointed out. But, it also pointed out that Deathnurse's post was removed...not so nice. If a member can not reply/post respectfully to the membership, it is best not to reply/post at all...this was also pointed out by Future RN Jess. I echo that. This is what the meter reference pointed too. We all are bound to TOS. No flaming or disrespect, please....or inflammatory posts. Use your report button to report them. Moderators will approach the offending member...do not do this yourself in the way of your posts. RN2MD, I should not view another post like these again on this thread or any other...or we will need to talk.
    Last edit by Thunderwolf on Nov 15, '05
  5. by   Thunderwolf
    Quote from Tweety
    Mercy, you causing trouble again??
    Mercy, no....you are doing just fine.


    Thanks Tweety for injecting some humor.



    And............the thread moves on.
  6. by   erShocker
    I hope this doesn't come out wrong, BUT... It is from San Francsico, CA. They have recently passed several 'unique' laws. It seems as if they are playing down eduacation and promoting a different view of professional from nursing to police to physician. I did not feel to insulted but I considered the source and dicounted its credibility.
  7. by   angel337
    Quote from RN2MD
    Moderator,
    Did I use any profane language or specifically make negative comments toward any member here? I thought this was the United States of America and the constitution guaranteed EVERY citizen the right to freeedom of speech. I am and will CONTINUE to EXERCISE that RIGHT! It's unfortunate that the truth hurts you people. You all should look at the reality of nursing. Is is a JOB not a CAREER. Perhaps if a BSN were the minimum entry to practice we could ALL start at $65,000 and max out at $80,000.
    Why can't nurses at least make a comparable salary to engineers? We risk our lives (and backs) and we are paid less than people working at the Big Three (Ford, GM, Chrysler). SOLUTION: Stop the infighting and fight for respect, decent wages, pensions and healthcare upon retirement.
    you are right rn2md, we should be able to agree to disagree. everyone has a right to their own opinion. i personally view nursing as a career and not a job. i do have a BSN but even if i didn't, i would still feel the same way. when i am assessing a patient i take that skill very seriously, because i would want myself and my family to be treated the same way. i have witnessed first hand the disasters that can happen when a nurse is not up to par with his/her responsibilties. a physician may write the orders, but it is the nurse who has the greatest responsibilty to carry them out appropriately and safely...or in some instances not carry them out at all. i have saved quite a few docs from making law-suit mistakes. i feel respected where i work and the docs i work with are great. maybe i am one of the lucky ones. female dominated professions always deal with these issues, not just nursing. so hopefully in my life time maybe nursing will evolve and come together as one instead of the adn vs. bsn debates that continue to tear us apart.
  8. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    It's unfortunate that the truth hurts you people.
    What you are calling the truth is called your opinion. To stop the "infighting" would mean to completely agree with your opinion, is what it seems.

    Perhaps if statements weren't inflammatory and attacking in nature, then maybe people would be more open and willing to read/hear what is being said.

    Instead, when one's chosen CAREER is being verbally butchered, people tend to turn away from it, and really, i don't blame them.

    Done arguing here. Tired of watching the mudslinging.
  9. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Did I use any profane language or specifically make negative comments toward any member here?
    Not specifically toward any member, but to a group, yes.
  10. by   Works2xs
    Quote from RN2MD
    Moderator,
    Did I use any profane language or specifically make negative comments toward any member here? I thought this was the United States of America and the constitution guaranteed EVERY citizen the right to freeedom of speech. I am and will CONTINUE to EXERCISE that RIGHT!
    Speaking of painful truths...

    "Freedom of speech rights do not extend to this privately owned website. The TOS/Guidelines of this website governs the behaviors and activities of the members. If you choose not to follow the guidelines agreed to during registration, the result is a disabling of your account." - TOS

    Not that I'm a moderator or anything... just felt like pointing out the obvious.
  11. by   mercyteapot
    Quote from RN2MD
    Moderator,
    Did I use any profane language or specifically make negative comments toward any member here? I thought this was the United States of America and the constitution guaranteed EVERY citizen the right to freeedom of speech. I am and will CONTINUE to EXERCISE that RIGHT! It's unfortunate that the truth hurts you people. You all should look at the reality of nursing. Is is a JOB not a CAREER. Perhaps if a BSN were the minimum entry to practice we could ALL start at $65,000 and max out at $80,000.
    Why can't nurses at least make a comparable salary to engineers? We risk our lives (and backs) and we are paid less than people working at the Big Three (Ford, GM, Chrysler). SOLUTION: Stop the infighting and fight for respect, decent wages, pensions and healthcare upon retirement.
    Perhaps the "this" in which you are physically located is the United States. That isn't the case for every allnurses member, though, and even if it were, the "this" in which we all connect is cyberspace, and no constitutional protections apply. What ever would make you think otherwise? I don't know who you think is hurt with your version of the "truth". It is the comment about "you ladies" and the accompanying implication that only females engage in this endless debate about entry level, salary, benes and respect. And why on earth would we want to be in a career that maxes out at $80K? I know a number of RNs who make more than that.
    Last edit by mercyteapot on Nov 16, '05
  12. by   karefree
    Well I have had enough of this thread,too. RN2MD you are part of the problem. Nursing is not just a job. There are many areas of nursing to go and many areas to further your education and create your own practice or work with MD's. Which by the way, I know several APRN's who have saved Docs time and energy and are very well respected by who they work for. YOu need to get your own head out of the sand and stop posting on a NURSES web site since you have such disdain for us. :angryfire
  13. by   Jessy_RN
    What a shame

    Another thread soon to earn the

    (Sigh) :stone





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