This article insults nursing as a lower skilled job

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i just read this article that down plays the work and hard study that rn's all put in to obtain a degree in college or a university. i feel insulted and plan to write them. :angryfire and a i am trying to "edit" to stay legal here, it is the fact that nursing is lumped into the mind set of a "lower skilled job" that precisely burns me up.

no college? not necessarily a problem

report points to 16 good fields for lower-skilled workers

by andrea coombes, marketwatch

last update: 7:36 pm et oct. 27, 2005

san francisco (marketwatch) -- the reigning assumption among many americans is that teenagers go directly from high school to college, but that's not the way life always works.

just 27% of americans over age 25 hold bachelor's degrees or higher, according to 2004 census data. see the census data.

the report details 16 jobs, all in growing industries, that pay more than $25,000 a year, are available to workers holding an associate's degree or less, and don't require a significant amount of previous work experience.

those occupations include nursing, carpentry, bookkeeping, plumbers and electricians. (see full list below.)

"there's no question that the payoff for a college degree is highly valuable and getting more valuable every year, [but] there are major occupations with large numbers of jobs going wanting that pay reasonably good wages, and are within reach of working adults that don't yet have postsecondary education," rubin said.

some barriers to entry

but just because you don't necessarily need a college degree doesn't mean entry into these jobs is easy.

for instance, "registered nurse" tops the list of 16 jobs because it has the greatest number of projected annual job openings, but that job poses barriers for some lower-skilled entrants, including training programs that tend to be highly competitive and full-time.

"registered nurse is certainly an excellent paying occupation and an occupation where there are tremendous shortages," rubin said. but, he added, entry to the field usually requires at least three years of full-time study and "very, very strong math and science skills."

an alternative is to become a licensed practical nurse, another job on the list. certification is often available through part-time training programs, making that occupation a more manageable entry point into the nursing field for those needing to support themselves and a family.

link to the full article:::

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Specializes in Med-Surg, Geriatric, Behavioral Health.

A little more respect, please...all the way around. No attacks or flames.

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Specializes in Med/Surg, ER, L&D, ICU, OR, Educator.
Do nurses have any idea what true professionals (ie MD, JD, PharmD, MBA, DDS, DVM,PhD) have endured to earn the salaries and respect afforded to them by society? Does anyone notice any similarities within the list? ALL hold advanced degrees. If nurses want more respect they must minimally have a BSN for entry to practice. Nursing will never be a 'profession' until a BSN (among many other things) is the minimum requirement for practice. Also, the nature of the work is blue collar. Which of the above professions wipes a**, fluffs pillows, orders trays, serves beverages, etc. NONE! Nurses should organize and unionize in order to demand that less skilled staff be responsible for these things. Come on guys do you all really know what professionals think of nursing? My former pre med classmates said the most derrogatory and demeaning things about nurses. Another RN who is already in the med school I will be attending next fall strongly urged me not to divulge my former occupation because my well educated upper class classmates will view me 'a dumb nurse' and my professors and attending/resident physicians will have less respect for me.

When will nursing become a true profession that one can be proud of?

Ouch! The label

Specializes in Med/Surg, ER, L&D, ICU, OR, Educator.
Do nurses have any idea what true professionals (ie MD, JD, PharmD, MBA, DDS, DVM,PhD) have endured to earn the salaries and respect afforded to them by society? Does anyone notice any similarities within the list? ALL hold advanced degrees. If nurses want more respect they must minimally have a BSN for entry to practice. Nursing will never be a 'profession' until a BSN (among many other things) is the minimum requirement for practice. Also, the nature of the work is blue collar. Which of the above professions wipes a**, fluffs pillows, orders trays, serves beverages, etc. NONE! Nurses should organize and unionize in order to demand that less skilled staff be responsible for these things. Come on guys do you all really know what professionals think of nursing? My former pre med classmates said the most derrogatory and demeaning things about nurses. Another RN who is already in the med school I will be attending next fall strongly urged me not to divulge my former occupation because my well educated upper class classmates will view me 'a dumb nurse' and my professors and attending/resident physicians will have less respect for me.

When will nursing become a true profession that one can be proud of?

Ouch!

(sorry, guess it's not long enough.)

Specializes in Med/Surg, ER, L&D, ICU, OR, Educator.
Do nurses have any idea what true professionals (ie MD, JD, PharmD, MBA, DDS, DVM,PhD) have endured to earn the salaries and respect afforded to them by society? Does anyone notice any similarities within the list? ALL hold advanced degrees. If nurses want more respect they must minimally have a BSN for entry to practice. Nursing will never be a 'profession' until a BSN (among many other things) is the minimum requirement for practice. Also, the nature of the work is blue collar. Which of the above professions wipes a**, fluffs pillows, orders trays, serves beverages, etc. NONE! Nurses should organize and unionize in order to demand that less skilled staff be responsible for these things. Come on guys do you all really know what professionals think of nursing? My former pre med classmates said the most derrogatory and demeaning things about nurses. Another RN who is already in the med school I will be attending next fall strongly urged me not to divulge my former occupation because my well educated upper class classmates will view me 'a dumb nurse' and my professors and attending/resident physicians will have less respect for me.

When will nursing become a true profession that one can be proud of?

Ouch! While I agree with some of your statements, this is an inflammitory post.

Specializes in PeriOp, ICU, PICU, NICU.
Actually I was initially pre-med in college. I only went into nursing as a default I was going to become a CRNA but realized I wanted more respect, status and $$$. Instead of nurses attacking one another you ladies should form a cohesive political force and fight for respect, DECENT WAGES, less hazardous working conditions, etc. However, it would be difficult to do that with several entries to practice and incessant backbiting/backstabbing. Ladies expend all that negative energy on something worthwhile!

Respectfully speaking, but not everyone goes into a career for the $$$ or status. Also, I can truly understand your anger now because you went into a field "as a default". That is such a shame. It's like when parents back in the old days would pick the daughter's spouse.

Hope med school fulfills all your need, treats you well and that you remember where you came from.

Lastly, if you don't have any nice advise to share, then maybe you should share non at all.

God Bless :)

Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.
Actually I was initially pre-med in college. I only went into nursing as a default I was going to become a CRNA but realized I wanted more respect, status and $$$. Instead of nurses attacking one another you ladies should form a cohesive political force and fight for respect, DECENT WAGES, less hazardous working conditions, etc. However, it would be difficult to do that with several entries to practice and incessant backbiting/backstabbing. Ladies expend all that negative energy on something worthwhile!

Your posts are reeking of negative energy.

So how are you helping the issue?

Specializes in Public Health, DEI.
A little more respect, please...all the way around. No attacks or flames.

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What? Huh? By previous post, do you mean the one immediately previous? Because I don't understand why asking for clarification about the "you ladies" comment would warrant a warning. I'm trying to get at- does this person, presumably a guy, but mustn't make assumptions- have the impression that only women participate in these threads (or for that matter, in that type of behavior of which he speaks?) Now, OTOH, perhaps you mean some other previous post, in which case, nevermind.

Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.
What? Huh? By previous post, do you mean the one immediately previous? Because I don't understand why asking for clarification about the "you ladies" comment would warrant a warning. I'm trying to get at- does this person, presumably a guy, but mustn't make assumptions- have the impression that only women participate in these threads (or for that matter, in that type of behavior of which he speaks?) Now, OTOH, perhaps you mean some other previous post, in which case, nevermind.

Mercy, you causing trouble again?? :rotfl:

Specializes in Public Health, DEI.
Mercy, you causing trouble again?? :rotfl:

It would appear that way, wouldn't it? :coollook:

Specializes in Med-Surg, Geriatric, Behavioral Health.

The meter reference was related to the negative energy that Marie_LPN and ceecel.dee have pointed out. But, it also pointed out that Deathnurse's post was removed...not so nice. If a member can not reply/post respectfully to the membership, it is best not to reply/post at all...this was also pointed out by Future RN Jess. I echo that. This is what the meter reference pointed too. We all are bound to TOS. No flaming or disrespect, please....or inflammatory posts. Use your report button to report them. Moderators will approach the offending member...do not do this yourself in the way of your posts. RN2MD, I should not view another post like these again on this thread or any other...or we will need to talk.

Specializes in Med-Surg, Geriatric, Behavioral Health.
Mercy, you causing trouble again?? :rotfl:

Mercy, no....you are doing just fine.

Thanks Tweety for injecting some humor.

And............the thread moves on.

I hope this doesn't come out wrong, BUT... It is from San Francsico, CA. They have recently passed several 'unique' laws. It seems as if they are playing down eduacation and promoting a different view of professional from nursing to police to physician. I did not feel to insulted but I considered the source and dicounted its credibility.

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