This article insults nursing as a lower skilled job

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i just read this article that down plays the work and hard study that rn's all put in to obtain a degree in college or a university. i feel insulted and plan to write them. :angryfire and a i am trying to "edit" to stay legal here, it is the fact that nursing is lumped into the mind set of a "lower skilled job" that precisely burns me up.

no college? not necessarily a problem

report points to 16 good fields for lower-skilled workers

by andrea coombes, marketwatch

last update: 7:36 pm et oct. 27, 2005

san francisco (marketwatch) -- the reigning assumption among many americans is that teenagers go directly from high school to college, but that's not the way life always works.

just 27% of americans over age 25 hold bachelor's degrees or higher, according to 2004 census data. see the census data.

the report details 16 jobs, all in growing industries, that pay more than $25,000 a year, are available to workers holding an associate's degree or less, and don't require a significant amount of previous work experience.

those occupations include nursing, carpentry, bookkeeping, plumbers and electricians. (see full list below.)

"there's no question that the payoff for a college degree is highly valuable and getting more valuable every year, [but] there are major occupations with large numbers of jobs going wanting that pay reasonably good wages, and are within reach of working adults that don't yet have postsecondary education," rubin said.

some barriers to entry

but just because you don't necessarily need a college degree doesn't mean entry into these jobs is easy.

for instance, "registered nurse" tops the list of 16 jobs because it has the greatest number of projected annual job openings, but that job poses barriers for some lower-skilled entrants, including training programs that tend to be highly competitive and full-time.

"registered nurse is certainly an excellent paying occupation and an occupation where there are tremendous shortages," rubin said. but, he added, entry to the field usually requires at least three years of full-time study and "very, very strong math and science skills."

an alternative is to become a licensed practical nurse, another job on the list. certification is often available through part-time training programs, making that occupation a more manageable entry point into the nursing field for those needing to support themselves and a family.

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I'm earning my BSN and I can tell you right now I'll never be paid what I am worth. And I'm a bit insulted when people tell me they can get "degree" in two years. Can you get your RN in two years? Yes, go ahead, but it's not a BS.
*Just because you are standing in the garage doesn't make you a car.*

I am an ADRN and I sat in the same room on the same day and wrote the same state board exam as my BSN counterparts. It may not be a BS but I started working and earning two years sooner than them and paid alot less for my education. "Things that make ya wanna go: Hmm" :rotfl:

This is the comment I submitted to the author:

What a ridiculous headline for an article that places so much emphasis on the nursing profession. Is an Associate's no longer considered a college degree? Nearly 12% of registered nurses hold a Master's degree or higher. Find me a BA-holding liberal arts school graduate who can insert a pulmonary artery line or a nasogastric feeding tube. Maybe then we can discuss who's the "lower-skilled worker."

I realize she probably didn't write the headline, but hey...you've got to raise awareness any way you can! :idea:

What matters was what they said. We shouldn't have to guess at what they were trying to say.:rolleyes:

What matters was what they said.

Exactly so -- and there is nothing in the article about nursing that is either untrue or insulting to nurses. I don't see what the fuss is about.

In NE Ohio a new graduating RN can expect to make between 21.00 and 24.00 an hour and thats without shift differential... 48,000 is not out of the question for even a new grad.

Specializes in CVICU.

I don't see it as offensive. I think most high school graduates are low skilled. Unless you graduated from a vocational program you skill level would be pretty low.

Specializes in Emergency Room.
Registered nurse, $48,090 ???

not for a beginning nurse! at least not in my part of the world! not even for this RN with 5 yrs under the belt - unless I did a load of OT

i made 54k my first year as a new grad (very little OT). but i also live in chicago where you can basically write your own pay check. although i have a BSN i didn't find the article insulting. it is very true that as long as you are a nurse, you can make a decent living without a 4yr degree. but on the other hand, most of my nurse friends that have ASN/ADN's spent just as many years in school as i did....so for that reason alone i think it is clear that becoming a nurse is hardly "lower skilled".

Hi!

I am new to the board and jsut read this post. I can understand why you would feel insulted by the wording but the person to talk to would be the person who ran and wrote the study not the person who worte the article. The problem I think with our public image is that we have too many "levels" of education..LPN/LVN, ADN,BSN...and then the MSN or APRN and so forth. People ask me all the time about someone's initials after their name. I have a friend who has so many inititials my husband asked if she was still a nurse!! And someone else posted as long as their are ways to become a nurse without a 4 year degree get used to the way we are perceived.

The way nursing is headed these days I believe all nurses should have a four year degree. ( I am currently going back to complete mine having graduated from a 2 year college program 13 years ago) It is essential that nursing get on the same track. There are not different levels for PT's or OT's or Docs. Can you imagine looking for a Doc for yourself and finding out he/she went to a 2 year program instead of 4 years un dergrad and three of med school and then all the training that follows?

Sorry this subject is close to my heart. I have heard too many people say they want to go into nursing now because of all the jobs available and good pay and I only have to go to school for 18 months or two years. They just don't realize the harsh reality of how difficult school is for the time spent ( who had a life while in nursing school??) and how hard it is to do the job we do.

Thanks for listening...anyone else feel the same??

Karen

I agree Karen... at the risk of getting this ADN and BSN thing stirred up. I just wanted to tell you what I am observing in my area. ADN nurses are hired due to the nursing shortage but BSN nurses are prefered, it says so in all of the ads in the newpaper and in the hospital recruitment information. Also, in the hospitals in my area. ADN nurses are never advanced to management positions. Ohio still has a nursing shortage but not like most of the other county so I guess they can afford to be more choosey. Right or wrong... duhno. I started Nursing school years ago in a diploma program but dropped out to have my children and stay home and raise them for 12 years. On the advice of my past fellow students with their nursing diploma RN, I went back to school in the BSN program at Kent State University. I graduate in December and have been hired to work at Akron General's Oncology unit once I pass the state boards. They even paid for most of my last semester of school and my NCLEX review course.

Hi Mermaid!

Thanks for your response! I didn't realize there are debates over the LPN/ADN/BSN thing so I apologize if I insulted anyone. I did graduate from a four year private school but the nursing program was two years. It was very tough. And my biggest complaint was always not enough clinical hands on practice because that is what still drives nursing. The horrible truth to how I came into nursing is my guidance couselor in HS told me a needed a trade school because I wasn't smart enough to be a photo journalist. ( even though my English and writing teachers thought I was very good and science was a struggle for me and math for that matter!!) My mom was a nurse.loved her profession. Graduated in 1956 from a hospital program. She encouraged me as I had always had an interest in nursing and I took a two year program because I though "how hard can it be?" YIKES! I had no life for two years of school and then the following year as a new grad I was so overwhelmed and tired all the time I still had no life!

I take issue with anyone who gives nursing a hard time without realizing how difficult it is and the burn out the comes comes from administrators who have no clue making cutbacks on staff and expecting nothing to change ie patient care and patient outcomes.

We need to get articles out there written by nurses in newspapers and magazines not just in nuring magazines, which just nurses read. Nurses know the problems we face the public needs to be more aware and an article written bya lay person who has no clue doesn't help us. So if anyone has a strong writing background get out there and write!! icon7.gif

Karen

This article just reinforces to all of us how important it is to take a statistics course. Probably the most limited in skilled jobs is journalism. As we can see from how poorly written the article is and misleading with information. We as nurses know who we are and what we do for our clients, which includes the community.

Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.
Probably the most limited in skilled jobs is journalism. As we can see from how poorly written the article is and misleading with information.

Saying this is no better than what this article said.

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