Overheard at the nurse's station

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My office is at the opposite end of the unit, away from the nurse's station. My daily routine is to spend the mornings on the unit, rounding with doctors, helping with care, and talking to patients. I spend the afternoons in my office doing paperwork and administrative tasks. The hospital is remodeling the floor above ours, and I needed to move out of my office for a few weeks because of the noise and dirt directly above me. My office is now temporarily in a small storage area right behind the nurse's desk. Some of the staff must have forgotten I was there, because this is the conversation that took place. (Some details have been changed to protect the innocent. And HIPAA)

CNA: Can you look at the IV in 412? It keeps beeping.

RN: That's not my patient.

Me, coming out of the office: Did you just tell her that's not my patient when she asked for help?

RN: NO

CNA: Yes she did.

ME: Go take care of the IV then come into my office

So we had the talk about teamwork, respect, integrity, and putting patients first. Of course she said she was sorry, she had been distracted, this is not her normal behavior. I warned her that this was unacceptable, and I did not want to hear this type of thing again. Then about an hour later, another conversation between the same two staff.

RN: I was just in 411. She needs a bedpan. Go put her on.

CNA: OK

Me, coming out of my office: Did you just tell her to go put a patient on a bedpan when you were in the room?

RN: NO

CNA: Yes

ME: Go put her on the bedpan yourself, then come into my office.

I usually dislike writing staff up, but this girl really deserved it.

Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.

I think you have two HUGE problems with this RN. The one you identified plus the fact that she lied to your face about a patient care issue TWICE in one day. Doesn't sound like a nurse I would want to work with.

Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
Ok you got me. I will come back in a few weeks once I have ROCKED the NCLEX in 75 questions and my license comes in the mail. Will I be valid then?

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1:05 am by mindlor

"what if that RN had to fly and assess a new admit and the CNA had the time.....

CNA gets the bed pan RN does the assessment

not hard..... "

OH MY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Specializes in Med Surg - Renal.
I feel bad for that CNA. That RN is probably pretty peeved at being written up, and may end up blaming the CNA for her (the RN's) problems...since it's safer for the RN to blame the CNA than the OP or even herself for getting into trouble.

I hope she doesn't take her frustrations out on that CNA.

Something tells me this CNA pretty much has a license to steal on that unit.

Specializes in Urgent Care.

9:20 pm by mindlor

"any of ya'll have 8 pts on a busy med surge floor?"

yes i do, it takes all of 1 minute to put a patient on the bedpan. it's called teamwork; while we have 8 pts the aid has 16...put the patient on the bedpan, have the aid take them off. mission accomplished.

All I ask on behalf of your RNS is please make sure you are staffing appropriately........Etc etc etc
How is it that you are preemptively bitter about staffing and overtime?

Troll?

Come one guys just give me a number here...seriously.......

365 days? 3650 days? 36500? let me know......i wont bug ya'll further till I hit that number ;)

I don't understand your cocky tone, really. You think you're being mocked for being new, but the cr*p coming your way is because you are freely instructing others on how to handle a situation you yourself haven't yet faced. In other words, you are presenting yourself as an expert on something in which you have zero experience. Why wouldn't you get mocked? Know-it-alls are never endearing, to be sure.

As for the "magic number", there is none, as you darned well know. Some people get a clue early on, some take years. Some never. You'll be taken seriously only when it appears you have learned what it is everyone has been trying to explain to you. And not a day before.

Specializes in Critical Care.

I just have to say it is only nurses that are expected to do all the work, nursing and everything else in between. All the dirty work, whether toileting people, cleaning up blood etc, answering the phones, playing secretary, cna, waitress, housekeeping, etc. It's so easy for you to play the high and mighty when you are no longer on the floor. Why is it nursings job to do everyone else's work and then still have their own to do and end up with no time to get a lunch or even go to the bathroom yourself?

Wonder what would happen if everyone else was expected to toilet people, the PT/OT, supervisors, pharmacy, HUCS, security! Why is it only nurses that are expected to do all the dirty work, break their back with the many obese people who are incontinent and not even able to get to the commode without help because of their obesity! But's it's ok for the poor nurse to be berated for having the nerve to delegate to the CNA the CNA job. How dare she! Bet your the first person to ride the nurses for overtime and not getting out of work on time! Before you are so quick to criticize you could rule by example by toileting people as well!

Maybe if we weren't expected to do everyone else's job we'd have time to be a nurse and use our knowledge, skills, brain to care for the patient; but instead we spend the majority of the day cleaning people up and cleaning the rooms up, etc and then running around to actually do our own job. Oh but I know we are expected to do patient care as well. Again how come no other support staff have the same requirements. If they did then there'd really be teamwork, but I don't see that happening in this lifetime!

I have to disagree, When you are an RN with 6 patients to take care of and you have to have your full assessments on every patient in the computer AND have everyones MORNING medications passed before 11 am and you can't start until 8 am because you've been getting report for an hour on all the pts. You see I have to get my job done before noon because the next time frame of medications will be do again between 12-2pm. When I have to stop performing the dutues of nursing care to place a pt on the bedpan, then my other pt's suffer and have to wait to see their nurse, to get their important antibiotic or heart medication, or insulin that they must have before eating. It kills me because I can do your (CNA) job but you can't do mine. I have no problem putting a pt on a bedpan if i don't have other pts waiting to get their timely medications. Nurses get written up if pt's medications are not passed out on time AND if our assessments are not in the Chart/Electronic record on time. Yes we are very capable of putting a pt on a bedpan i have often done it many many many tiimes becuase i couldn't find the CNA to do it And when i get backed up into a corner who is going to help me out because I can do mine and yours job BUT YOU CAN'T DO MY JOB. And if I do i should be collecting your paycheck as well. You think nurses think we are above doing the "dirty work"? when in fact we almost ALWAYS end up doiing it any way because half the time , the CNA's are either M.I.A , taking their 4th break when we've had none yet, Yeah thats right! we nurses often go without a break or lunch for long hours until the day is almost over if you're lucky, nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnWait Wait till you become a nurse one day and you will understand this rant i'm writing. cuz i'm fed up with people like you thinking we're above things like helping the pt to the bathroom, giving a bath, feeding a pt. The hospital cannot afford to pay an RN's salary for CNA work.

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Is this new? I've never heard of this.

How is it that you are preemptively bitter about staffing and overtime?

Troll?

No, he's a regular. Just obstinate.

Is this new? I've never heard of this.

You never heard it because its BS....

Also I am glad to see some posters brave and intelligent enough to see the validity of some of the points I was making.......encouraging....

I was purposely trying to get juices and thought flowing with my posting style.

Mission accomplished.

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