Nurses are Pathetic!! - page 9

I have been reading thread after thread on this forum and I have come to one conclusion. We are all a pathetic bunch. We take abuse that most other human beings would not put up with. We are... Read More

  1. by   HeartsOpenWide
    Quote from lupin
    Lorster,
    Most of us got into nursing because we love taking care of people and making them feel better. What happened to that? What is with this site these days? All I've seen is negativity. No one seems to have a sense of humor or compassion or duty or anything lately. I'm giving this site two weeks to get out of it's funk or I'm leaving it for a while.
    And to those people who agree with Lorster about everything and can't seem to find something good at your job, LEAVE IT! Not all of us feel that way and quite frankly, I'd rather work short than hear a bunch of b*tching while I'm trying to do my job.
    I agree. If you do not like it, get out. It is these kinds of people that end up like the same people they complain about..making life harder for the people that really want to be there. I worked with another person who was always complaining, in spite of a better word, and I was always asking her why she did not quit if she hated it so much. I really wanted to tell her to shut up and quit because I was tired of her bi"ching. She ended up getting fired anyways, her additive played a big card in it too...
  2. by   Gromit
    Easy to say "if you do not like it, get out" but if thats REALLY the attitude you portray, then nothing will EVER change in this profession, because if you suddenly don't like it, LEAVE.
    Such advice is rarely able to be followed. You must be able to AFFORD to leave as well -and like it or not, people have to eat, have bills to pay, etc. and when the long and short of it is done, in the end, bleeding heart or just working stiff, we all have a clock to punch at the end of the shift.
    No matter what you might think is 'wrong' with a profession, I guarantee that there is SOMEONE somewhere who doesn't think its 'wrong', or will have the attitude that if you don't like (x) then leave.
    All in all, all that lorster did was rant and vent. Thats ALL. I may not have cared for how some of the words were strung together (and I didn't, because in that rant, it was inclussive of all of us, and we do not all feel that way, or feel like we should be lumped together as such) but in the end, it was nothing more nor less than a vent. I challenge anyone to say that they have worked in this field and NOT had a bad 'moment' or day. Anyone.
    Just thinking that after more than a hundred posts, we might try to ease up a little?
  3. by   Spidey's mom
    Karen - thanks for those great links . .. . gotta get back to reading them all. Heading into a meeting today where they may just come in very handy!

    And as to the thread about this thread being closed - I wanted to say last night that the thread was closed for a "time out" . . not closed for good. As we can see, it reopened.

    steph
  4. by   swatch007
    This post reminds me of what happened 3 months ago: I witnessed a dr. (who was known for bullying nurses on our floor) humiliated a new grad nurse for forgetting to enter info about the pt. on the computer. He scolded her as if he were a baseball coach. Even with three fellow nurses nearby the nurse, the dr just kept barking at her for almost five minutes. nobody said anything,and the nurse was on the verge of tears. Then the dr said something very insulting comment: "I can't believe they let you out of nursing school like that". So I had to say something to stop this carnage: "Excuse me dr., there is really no need for you to say that. Let me help to get whatever information you need on the pt. " Then he said sarcastically, "I was not talking to you. You want to defend her? what are you? her boyfriend?! Go back and do your job!"

    Background info: The dr. is a very moody person. He enjoys the attention he is getting (like Simmon in the American Idol) because nurses have been trying to be friendly with him for the fear of becoming a victim of his tantrum. He has yelled at many nurses before,and can magnify little thing to have something to use for his attacks on nurses. However the nurses' complains were downplayed by the management because the dr is "very in demand", so the nurses are just sucking it up. Some people said that the dr. must have been using steroid because of his massive muscle (he is 6' 2" about 230-250 lbs. muscular built). He likes baseball and body building.

    Me: just less than a year on this job. quiet type and don't usually hang around with colleagues.

    back to the story, that night I waited in the hospital garage to confront the dr.When he came, he was combative then pushing my face while cursing me. I hold on to his wrists and delivered my extended knee on his solar plexus. It was a clean Muay Thai style shot, one of my favorites long time ago. I heard a familiar sound: groaning. He was stunned and in pain, but he managed to swing his big hands several times, missing my face few inches away. He obviously knew how to box but too slow shots for me. I did not hit him again.I just wanted to make a statement with my knee. Suprisingly, he laughed hard and long after he got exhausted from hitting my shadow and said "you got me man! we should go out sometimes and watch boxing match together".

    I don't advice fellow nurses to deal with rude dr. the way I dealt with mine. But believe it or not, the doc and I are getting along very well since that encounter, and he didn't mention this to anybody. I guess he is trully sports fanatic that is why he felt relief after he physically expressed his stress. People deal with stress differently.

    "Different folks different strokes"; haven't you heard that before?
  5. by   swatch007
    sorry for too long post.
    Last edit by swatch007 on Mar 14, '07
  6. by   angel337
    i agree with everyone who says if you don't like it, leave. obviously we all need to work, but i think the excuse"i can't afford to leave" is just that....an excuse. you can find another job. especially in nursing. i think sometimes misery likes misery and some people don't feel good unless they have something to complain about. if you have been on the same med surg floor for 10 years complaining "i can't get out" it's your own fault for not being assertive enough to find another job and take control of your own happiness. we all have choices. I choose happiness and contentment in every aspect of my life. i don't always get what i want, but i try too find a balance. some things are out of our control, like sudden illness and tragedy and people survive those events also. tell yourself "no more excuses, i will take charge of my career" if you don't, you will be six feet under due to a massive MI or stroke and that job that caused all the stress will have your position posted the next day.
  7. by   swatch007
    Quote from angel337
    if you don't, you will be six feet under due to a massive MI or stroke and that job that caused all the stress will have your position posted the next day.

    I think the ad would go this way:

    Wanted RN to replace an angel nurse who died of heart attack due to work related stress.

    Qualifications: Must be able to function in a highly stressful environment with virtually no breaks. Must be able to endure and fulfill management demands.

    Benefits: free counselling, will cover all funeral cost and dental services. Plus free vacation and car when you die :spin:.
  8. by   General E. Speaking, RN
    I have been nursing for 17 years. While I don't agree that we are pathetic, nurses do put up with crap. I work on busy tele/med-surg floor. I go through cycles of being determined to make a change and feeling frustrated and wanting to give up. I have been nicknamed "Speaker of the House" by my manager. I guess this is good and bad. My thoughts are that the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

    It is easy to get wrapped up in the negativeness associated with floor nursing. However, when we stop trying to change things and stop being advocates we are doing our profession a disservice. I have had things change (to benefit) the nurses on our floor. However, when I hear colleagues continually complaining to me and others and not forwarding those complaints to management it makes me angry. I despise the attitude "well, that's the way we have always done it" or "that's the way it will always be".

    I have gotten close to burn-out. When I get to that point I know I need to take a vacation. I had a horrible horrible shift on Sunday. I ended staying 2 hours after my 12 hr shift to chart to events that happened. Staffing ratios were a direct cause. Looking back on the shift, I am surprised that I survived and wasn't hauled off in a straight jacket. I was emotionally and physically drained.

    Thank Goodness I am off for about 2 weeks but I know I will go return to work with a renewed fighting spirit. I'm not ready to give up.
  9. by   elfinM
    Cograts to you for calling it like it is! Your comments are supported by some of the replys that followed it. I have read that your comments are to be blamed on everything but the real problem that you covered in your statements. Nurses do take it and worse we rationalize the behavior as tolerable and acceptable. This is supported by the replys on this thread. If Nurses of all experience would remember the patients and how we can not meet their needs based on the current conditions we all find ourselves in then maybe something would change. This is not about personal issues, this is about the core essence of nursing and what we are here to do. That can NOT be accomplished with such dishevel in our profession. Thank you for pointing out some truths. You can see that for some that the truth hurts!
  10. by   SmilingBluEyes
    "be the change you want to see in others"
    paraphrased from Ghandi.

    Food for thought.
  11. by   Gromit
    "Never give up! Never surrender!" (commander Taggert, Galaxy Quest).
  12. by   wooh
    The "if you don't like it, leave" mentality is just catering to what hospitals want. I love what nursing should be. But I refuse to be treated like a servant by my patients. I refuse to be treated like a servant by MDs. And I won't like it if they try. Should I just leave because hospitals tend to expect nurses to spend even more time fetching coffee when they're already overrun with legitimate medical/nursing needs?
    I want to be a nurse, I don't want to be a martyr. I don't think I should leave because to be a nurse, I'm often expected to be a martyr.
    So I'm the squeaky wheel instead. My squeaking has at times made changes. And at times, it's left me frustrated. But I'm not going to just leave. And be glad I didn't. Because the martyr marys would be run further into the ground if there weren't a few of us squeaky wheels complaining and getting changes for us all.
  13. by   subee
    Quote from wooh
    The "if you don't like it, leave" mentality is just catering to what hospitals want. I love what nursing should be. But I refuse to be treated like a servant by my patients. I refuse to be treated like a servant by MDs. And I won't like it if they try. Should I just leave because hospitals tend to expect nurses to spend even more time fetching coffee when they're already overrun with legitimate medical/nursing needs?
    I want to be a nurse, I don't want to be a martyr. I don't think I should leave because to be a nurse, I'm often expected to be a martyr.
    So I'm the squeaky wheel instead. My squeaking has at times made changes. And at times, it's left me frustrated. But I'm not going to just leave. And be glad I didn't. Because the martyr marys would be run further into the ground if there weren't a few of us squeaky wheels complaining and getting changes for us all.


    You are right that, if we are consistently treated badly, then we should be looking at ourselves rather than appointing blame on "Them". However, how does one achieve perspective and wisdom while young? Assertiveness training and stress reduction should be incorporated into our undergraduate curriculi. We waste so much time reacting inappropriately to the stressors and jerks of nursing. Don't confuse the dysfunction of nursing with your own problems. Yes, it is stressful, but from someone who has been doing this 30 plus years, I can assure you that most people create their own problems by making some really stupid decisions. They marry a jerk, have too many children, spend too much money, don't get enough sleep - these behaviors cause more misery than the corporations who employ us.

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