Nurses are Pathetic!!

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I have been reading thread after thread on this forum and I have come to one conclusion. We are all a pathetic bunch. We take abuse that most other human beings would not put up with. We are physically, mentally and emotionally abused by doctors, managers, patients, and families. We work ungodly hours, skip our much needed breaks without pay for months and years on end. And this goes on and on and on. The stories are endless. Then we are all shocked when a nurse who has had enough finally cracks and administers 32 vials of Dilantin and kills a patient. Is this so different than any other human being who finally after years and years of this abuse, just cannot take it anymore? I think not. When are we all going to stand up and demand decent pay, decent working conditions, and respect? Well, the answer is never because we are not a solid group. We have no autonomy or solidarity because we are a weak profession. We pit one against another. We ***** and backstab. We deserve all the abuse that is dealt to us. In nursing school, we are taught to make beds, empty bedpans and clean dentures. Instead we should get vast lessons in how to deal with some of the real issues that face us today. We are understaffed, overworked, pushed to the breaking point. But yet, the martyr instinct kicks in, we get up and go back and endure more of the same. When is enough, enough? When are we all going to come together and and start shouting about our working conditions and wages? We make less than a crew on road construction or a plumber. And look what we do. We are responsible for peoples lives. I went to work down the road as my current employer is union and I felt that maybe the non union hospital down the road would be a better place. Well, it is not, it is worse. 13 nurses have quit in the 6 weeks I have worked there. I won't renew my contract. It is just too unsafe. The hospital is all about profit at the expense of some great nurses. They even charge for an individual bandaid. It is ridiculous. I have decided that as soon as I can afford to, I'm getting out. I will no longer be a member of a profession that eats its young while at the same time, taking unwarrented abuse from unapreciative doctors that we bend over backwards for. Its not about making a living any more, it is about retaining some self respect, free of abuse by doctors, managers and other nurses who have nothing better to do than put a knife in your back the minute you turn around. At least at walmart I won't have to worry about making a life threatening mistake because I'm overwhelmed by what is required of me each day.

Specializes in Trauma,ER,CCU/OHU/Nsg Ed/Nsg Research.
I think we need to move beyond the original post and the use of the word pathetic. You're correct, there was no clarification to back up the claim of pathetic. The op recanted the word. See post 50 and 52.

OK- I can concede to that. I guess I didn't find the replacement words all that great, either. But, you're right- they are better than pathetic. ;)

I think we need to move beyond the original post and the use of the word pathetic. You're correct, there was no clarification to back up the claim of pathetic. The op recanted the word. See post 50 and 52. The op states " have not lost passion for nursing, just the whole process that makes it hard to do my job. "

Yes, well I didn't exactly care for "dysfunctional", "codependent" or "masochistic" either (see post 50). I am a nurse and I am none of those things. I am sure I am not the only one.

Specializes in School Nursing.
ROFLMBO :devil: ;) :balloons: :balloons:

Sorry Trudy, but what is ROFLMBO ???

thanks ! ;)

The OP has the right to say what she/he wants within the parameters of good taste on this board. One of the purposes of this board is to get things off one's mind. Likewise, people can respond as they choose or not choose.

Try to look behind the purpose of the words before jumping to conclusions and blasting what a poster has to say. If everybody were taken to task by their supervisors at work or others close to them concerning all of their behavior and conversation; there would be a lot more discernable humility around, to include on this board. Nobody's perfect.

Specializes in PCICU.
My beef is the way we are treated and that we keep taking it. I've been yelled at, hung up on, had charts thrown at me, been humiliated in front of patients, families, staff members and other doctors. And like many nurses out there, I have stood their and just taken it.

OK. so i have a question for the OP. What do you plan on doing in order to change the way that the nurses are treated in your hospital? The next time someone throws a chart at you or humiliates another fellow nurse, will you stand by it again?

You say there arent many alternatives as to where you can work in your area. So then you have no choice but to fix it, no? Or do you not want to bother with the ruckus thats involved in change?

Specializes in Vents, Telemetry, Home Care, Home infusion.

Closing temp for time out.

Specializes in Vents, Telemetry, Home Care, Home infusion.

since starting in healthcare in 1974, learned that all the moans and groans won't move a mountain.... or a molehole.

networking together, documenting concerns and offering solutions, volunteering/participating on committees and learning when to pick my battles...assertiveness and advocacy for patient care have made small inroads and a few major ones in my practice settings. attending inservices on my dime and facilities let me know i was not alone re workplace issues and helped revive my nursing spirit many times over the years

compassion fatigue and burnout intesify apathetic feelings about oneself and practice setting. early mentoring in career (thank you pat, rn educator mhop 1979!) to recognize this condition in my self and colleagues, taught ways to intervene and learned my own cues when to destress.

change....

no one will do it for you....in any office setting. someone needs to get the ball rolling to impliment change.

these links have great food for thought to chew on re changing ourselves and work place. 30+ years later still learning something new each day, enjoy nursing and affecting change at work and advocating here on bb.

nursingworld | ojin: nurse-physician workplace collaboration

one strategy to encourage positive teamwork is to avoid the blame game. nurses must stop blaming others for problems that exist in nursing (easson-bruno, ...

nursingworld.org/ojin/topic26/tpc26_4.htm

compassion fatigue is triggered by the indirect trauma resulting from dealing with the tragedy of patient demise, viewing painful procedures, and experiencing the residual effects of exposure to human suffering...the cardinal signs of compassion fatigue are fatigue and lack of energy.

compassion fatigue is common in health care and occurs periodically for most professionals.

if unrecognized and unaddressed, compassion fatigue may progress to burnout, a state with more severe, long-term symptoms that are difficult to reverse. burnout has been described as a "syndrome of emotional exhaustion, depersonalization towards patients, and reduced sense of personal accomplishment"...

...avoid negative behaviors

it takes only one difficult personality to cast a pall of dominance, negativity, or distraction that derails collaborative efforts. fortunately, productivity and positivity can counteract debilitating influences and restore team productivity if there is consistent, courageous, and deliberate leadership. team-leaders must be mature, must value consensus, and must be unwilling to settle for less than productive dialogue.

one strategy to encourage positive teamwork is to avoid the blame game. nurses must stop blaming others for problems that exist in nursing (easson-bruno, 2003). it is counterproductive and unprofessional to blame physicians, administrators, organizations, or other nurses for the frustrating and disappointing aspects of present-day nursing. acting like an oppressed group will not encourage others to respect and trust nurses (roberts, 1999). willingness and courage to share the load of responsibility for patient outcomes will infuse the collaborative process with trust and respect. nurses create momentum when they are confident in their contributions and secure in their identities.

recognising workplace burnout nowadays this syndrome is being recognized as "work place burnout" and it is ... you may be led to blame your spouse or boss for the way you're feeling, ...

www.healthguidance.org/entry/5051/1/recognising-workplace-burnout.html

people experiencing work place burnout need to take time out of their busy lives to confront the underlying issues that are causing them stress. there is no easy fix - and the solution that you arrive at is most likely going to place you on a different life course than the one you have been traveling.

low morale and burnout; is the solution to teach a values-based ... [color=#6f6f6f]file format: pdf/adobe acrobat - view as html

in times of low morale and burnout in staff it is important to return to the. values that form the foundation of medical and nursing practice. these ...

www.rcpsych.ac.uk/pdf/cbrownmorale.pdf

nurse power: un-breaking the spirit of nursing

http://2theheartofthematter.blogspot.com/2007/03/nurses-stories-unbreaking-spirit-of.html

series of nurses stories troumphs and falls with goal to promote nursing and move the spirit.

book:

resilient practitioner, the: burnout prevention and self-care strategies for counselors, therapists, teachers, and health professionals

http://www.amazon.com/resilient-practitioner-prevention-strategies-professionals/dp/020530611x

truly believe in words of jnette:

change your thoughts = change your life

Specializes in ER/Nuero/PHN/LTC/Skilled/Alzheimer's.

Lorster,

Honey, if you think a doctor yelling at you is bad, try working Walmart during the Christmas season. You will find whole new ways of hating the human race. Looking back at some of the things I had to endure as a dept. manager at Walmart makes me wish I had just punched some people in the face and been done with it. To this day, I shop online at the holidays because I actually get claustrophobic in the malls and Walmart.

As for what was written, there is some truth to Lorster's rant. But, for heaven's sakes people, GET OVER YOURSELVES!!!!

While lots of nurses are ranting and raving about how much they hate their job and how much they're getting screwed, your pts are the ones who are sick, getting really screwed by their insurance companies (they are the real evil in healthcare!), losing money from not being able to work, separated from their loved ones, in pain, and now they have an overworked, underappreciated, self pitying nurse standing over them with the enthusiasm of a prisoner in jail taking a shower. OH JOY!!!!

Most of us got into nursing because we love taking care of people and making them feel better. What happened to that? What is with this site these days? All I've seen is negativity. No one seems to have a sense of humor or compassion or duty or anything lately. I'm giving this site two weeks to get out of it's funk or I'm leaving it for a while. :o

And to those people who agree with Lorster about everything and can't seem to find something good at your job, LEAVE IT! Not all of us feel that way and quite frankly, I'd rather work short than hear a bunch of b*tching while I'm trying to do my job. :nono:

Specializes in Ante-Intra-Postpartum, Post Gyne.
Lorster,

Most of us got into nursing because we love taking care of people and making them feel better. What happened to that? What is with this site these days? All I've seen is negativity. No one seems to have a sense of humor or compassion or duty or anything lately. I'm giving this site two weeks to get out of it's funk or I'm leaving it for a while. :o

And to those people who agree with Lorster about everything and can't seem to find something good at your job, LEAVE IT! Not all of us feel that way and quite frankly, I'd rather work short than hear a bunch of b*tching while I'm trying to do my job. :nono:

I agree. If you do not like it, get out. It is these kinds of people that end up like the same people they complain about..making life harder for the people that really want to be there. I worked with another person who was always complaining, in spite of a better word, and I was always asking her why she did not quit if she hated it so much. I really wanted to tell her to shut up and quit because I was tired of her bi"ching. She ended up getting fired anyways, her additive played a big card in it too...

Specializes in ICU-Stepdown.

Easy to say "if you do not like it, get out" but if thats REALLY the attitude you portray, then nothing will EVER change in this profession, because if you suddenly don't like it, LEAVE.

Such advice is rarely able to be followed. You must be able to AFFORD to leave as well -and like it or not, people have to eat, have bills to pay, etc. and when the long and short of it is done, in the end, bleeding heart or just working stiff, we all have a clock to punch at the end of the shift.

No matter what you might think is 'wrong' with a profession, I guarantee that there is SOMEONE somewhere who doesn't think its 'wrong', or will have the attitude that if you don't like (x) then leave.

All in all, all that lorster did was rant and vent. Thats ALL. I may not have cared for how some of the words were strung together (and I didn't, because in that rant, it was inclussive of all of us, and we do not all feel that way, or feel like we should be lumped together as such) but in the end, it was nothing more nor less than a vent. I challenge anyone to say that they have worked in this field and NOT had a bad 'moment' or day. Anyone.

Just thinking that after more than a hundred posts, we might try to ease up a little?

Karen - thanks for those great links . .. . gotta get back to reading them all. Heading into a meeting today where they may just come in very handy!:D

And as to the thread about this thread being closed - I wanted to say last night that the thread was closed for a "time out" . . not closed for good. As we can see, it reopened.

steph

This post reminds me of what happened 3 months ago: I witnessed a dr. (who was known for bullying nurses on our floor) humiliated a new grad nurse for forgetting to enter info about the pt. on the computer. He scolded her as if he were a baseball coach. Even with three fellow nurses nearby the nurse, the dr just kept barking at her for almost five minutes. nobody said anything,and the nurse was on the verge of tears. Then the dr said something very insulting comment: "I can't believe they let you out of nursing school like that". So I had to say something to stop this carnage: "Excuse me dr., there is really no need for you to say that. Let me help to get whatever information you need on the pt. " Then he said sarcastically, "I was not talking to you. You want to defend her? what are you? her boyfriend?! Go back and do your job!"

Background info: The dr. is a very moody person. He enjoys the attention he is getting (like Simmon in the American Idol) because nurses have been trying to be friendly with him for the fear of becoming a victim of his tantrum. He has yelled at many nurses before,and can magnify little thing to have something to use for his attacks on nurses. However the nurses' complains were downplayed by the management because the dr is "very in demand", so the nurses are just sucking it up. Some people said that the dr. must have been using steroid because of his massive muscle (he is 6' 2" about 230-250 lbs. muscular built). He likes baseball and body building.

Me: just less than a year on this job. quiet type and don't usually hang around with colleagues.

back to the story, that night I waited in the hospital garage to confront the dr.When he came, he was combative then pushing my face while cursing me. I hold on to his wrists and delivered my extended knee on his solar plexus. It was a clean Muay Thai style shot, one of my favorites long time ago. I heard a familiar sound: groaning. He was stunned and in pain, but he managed to swing his big hands several times, missing my face few inches away. He obviously knew how to box but too slow shots for me. I did not hit him again.I just wanted to make a statement with my knee. Suprisingly, he laughed hard and long after he got exhausted from hitting my shadow and said "you got me man! we should go out sometimes and watch boxing match together".

I don't advice fellow nurses to deal with rude dr. the way I dealt with mine. But believe it or not, the doc and I are getting along very well since that encounter, and he didn't mention this to anybody. I guess he is trully sports fanatic that is why he felt relief after he physically expressed his stress. People deal with stress differently.

"Different folks different strokes"; haven't you heard that before?

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