Nurses are Pathetic!!

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I have been reading thread after thread on this forum and I have come to one conclusion. We are all a pathetic bunch. We take abuse that most other human beings would not put up with. We are physically, mentally and emotionally abused by doctors, managers, patients, and families. We work ungodly hours, skip our much needed breaks without pay for months and years on end. And this goes on and on and on. The stories are endless. Then we are all shocked when a nurse who has had enough finally cracks and administers 32 vials of Dilantin and kills a patient. Is this so different than any other human being who finally after years and years of this abuse, just cannot take it anymore? I think not. When are we all going to stand up and demand decent pay, decent working conditions, and respect? Well, the answer is never because we are not a solid group. We have no autonomy or solidarity because we are a weak profession. We pit one against another. We ***** and backstab. We deserve all the abuse that is dealt to us. In nursing school, we are taught to make beds, empty bedpans and clean dentures. Instead we should get vast lessons in how to deal with some of the real issues that face us today. We are understaffed, overworked, pushed to the breaking point. But yet, the martyr instinct kicks in, we get up and go back and endure more of the same. When is enough, enough? When are we all going to come together and and start shouting about our working conditions and wages? We make less than a crew on road construction or a plumber. And look what we do. We are responsible for peoples lives. I went to work down the road as my current employer is union and I felt that maybe the non union hospital down the road would be a better place. Well, it is not, it is worse. 13 nurses have quit in the 6 weeks I have worked there. I won't renew my contract. It is just too unsafe. The hospital is all about profit at the expense of some great nurses. They even charge for an individual bandaid. It is ridiculous. I have decided that as soon as I can afford to, I'm getting out. I will no longer be a member of a profession that eats its young while at the same time, taking unwarrented abuse from unapreciative doctors that we bend over backwards for. Its not about making a living any more, it is about retaining some self respect, free of abuse by doctors, managers and other nurses who have nothing better to do than put a knife in your back the minute you turn around. At least at walmart I won't have to worry about making a life threatening mistake because I'm overwhelmed by what is required of me each day.

Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis.
You make some good points - in looking back at myself, I can see that when I was young I had no training or education regarding assertiveness. I did not know how to deal effectively with confrontation. In fact one time I was in a situation at work with a superior who was male who was inappropriate with me and I froze - and didn't quit for a whole week.

This issue of not standing up for yourself is something that happens in every field. Not just nursing.

Maybe one of the things we should be looking at is teaching effective communication tools in high school. Start alot earlier than when you get your degree and start working in the real world.

It took me a long time to be able to stand up for myself.

steph

Well said Steph. It begins at home and in school while we are kids. Self-esteem and assertion are critical to life success, whether as nurses, parents, or any other role we take on. Learned young, it would serve anyone well.

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Speaking as someone who used to work at Walmart, spent 6 years in the United States Marine Corps, 15 years as an accounting controller and now I'm in my second year of nursing school...I don't believe there is a job out there where people are not abused, disrespected, trampled on, kicked around and stabbed in the back at one time or another. There will always be those times when we feel like the entire world is against us, but that's not a job...that's life. And if you notice, the more you work at it - the better it gets. I don't consider those nurses that keep working at it to be "pathetic" - I consider them to be fighters and survivors. They are my role models, mentors and people that I have the greatest respect for. What would any of us be if we quit, rolled over and died every time life got tough? I think that a few weeks of vacaton and some serious thinking about your career options may be a better option than wasting away your education and hard-won nursing skills at Walmart. ;)

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We definately should not deal with physical abuse that way. I would take it through legal channels, period. Dr Rude would not be hitting me, nor anyone else, if I had my way, again.

Christ I'd actually feel sorry for someone stupid enough to hit me. There is no room for violence of ANY kind in the work place. Lets be adults. That kind of crap should have been left back in gradeschool.

Christ I'd actually feel sorry for someone stupid enough to hit me. There is no room for violence of ANY kind in the work place. Lets be adults. That kind of crap should have been left back in gradeschool.

It's also illegal.

The common thread across many areas of nursing and even countries is that terms and condtions orf work can be bad to appaling to be in. Some like the UK have unions however even here its bad most are public sector workers so pay etc is dependent on the econmy

time and again studeis show adequate RN stbouncing staffing along with care aides improved patient quality of care and health outcomes.

however do u leave bad conditons or do u try to fight.

but its management in gerenal who make out working lives better or worse.

A friend of mine defends the fact the police officer and fire figthers who are also public servants are paid more as they risk their lives

Specializes in Trauma,ER,CCU/OHU/Nsg Ed/Nsg Research.
You are right that, if we are consistently treated badly, then we should be looking at ourselves rather than appointing blame on "Them". However, how does one achieve perspective and wisdom while young? Assertiveness training and stress reduction should be incorporated into our undergraduate curriculi.

I totally agree- but would like to add that we as the older, more experienced nurses need to set an example as well. How would we feel if we were the new nurse who was yelled at in the first post? Imagine starting your new job, getting yelled at by a doc like that, and seeing the old-timers just standing around doing nothing. If it were me, I would not only feel let down by the doc, but even more by my coworkers. And we wonder why our new nurses are leaving the field so quickly nowadays.

It's our responsibility to back them up and let them know this is not OK, nor is it expected of them to take this kind of treatment. It's our responsibility to guide them in how to handle these situations.

Specializes in ICU-Stepdown.
The common thread across many areas of nursing and even countries is that terms and condtions orf work can be bad to appaling to be in. Some like the UK have unions however even here its bad most are public sector workers so pay etc is dependent on the econmy

time and again studeis show adequate RN stbouncing staffing along with care aides improved patient quality of care and health outcomes.

however do u leave bad conditons or do u try to fight.

but its management in gerenal who make out working lives better or worse.

A friend of mine defends the fact the police officer and fire figthers who are also public servants are paid more as they risk their lives

But still, they are calculated risks, and neither of them has (or is likely to) the level of education you had to go through. Considder this, however: By virtue of what you willingly expose yourself to I'm talking bacterial and viral (exposures that you subject yourself to in the workplace) as well as at times irrational and unruly patients and family, and you could make the case that as nurses WE are in a potentially very hazardous workplace as well.

I'm not meaning to belittle the jobs of police and firefighters, but oftentimes our own 'risks' seem to be easily passed over by those who have little or no clue about what we really do.

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I totally agree- but would like to add that we as the older, more experienced nurses need to set an example as well. How would we feel if we were the new nurse who was yelled at in the first post? Imagine starting your new job, getting yelled at by a doc like that, and seeing the old-timers just standing around doing nothing. If it were me, I would not only feel let down by the doc, but even more by my coworkers. And we wonder why our new nurses are leaving the field so quickly nowadays.

It's our responsibility to back them up and let them know this is not OK, nor is it expected of them to take this kind of treatment. It's our responsibility to guide them in how to handle these situations.

Over the years, my idols were the nurses who could come up with the quick quips and make the jerk dujour appear foolish and defuse the situation at the same time. They were always post-menopausal, grouchy women not to be messed with but excellent leaders. Hmmmmm. Maybe if we moved menopause forward to around 30, we'd have a work-force of Slightly Grouchy Women Not To Be Messed With! The young - they're so fragile.

Specializes in m/s, icu.

lorster i agree with you,

i have tried to help problem solve issues (staffing, wound care, fall risk, co-worker behavior) on group commities. i have not seen chages despite our unit's efforts. the policies are created by upper management that has no clue what it is really like. i have much more i'd love to discuss but it's my night off and i'm going to enjoy my family right now. i look forward to continueing this conversation.

g'night

Specializes in PACU/Cardiac/Nrsg. Mgmt./M/S.

I think, after reading your post, that you inadvertently used the word "pathetic" when perhaps you meant (as a generalization) that many in our profession, not all of course, do try to give 150% of ourselves to our profession and our patients, thereby creating an element of victimization of ourselves.

For the very reason that we want to help people and assist individuals in achieving optimal health, many (not all) of us can give too much of ourselves by denying our personal needs and allowing burn out or conflict in our personal lives; when this occurs, of course we can become tired, angry, stressed, and feel a sense of incompleteness and inadequacy in that which we set out long ago on our first day of nursing school.

Although I disagree with the choice of words you used, I understand your meaning. I do not believe that your statement 'nurses are pathetic' should be taken literally; I believe that you used it figuratively, and in those terms, I concur.

We try so very hard to help that we can overlook our own personal needs.

Specializes in cardiac/critical care/ informatics.
Babtized. We are to be pitied because we allow things that totally go against the grain of our profession such as abuse. It runs rampant in nursing. Can we all agree on that?

Not all of us allow abuse, and some of us stand up against. The nurses that gripe and do nothing are the ones that are sad.

Specializes in NICU Level III.

None of the nurses I know take crap from MDs or bend over backwards. Maybe the culture where you live is different, but (most) nurses here are very autonomous and outspoken and our pay is not that bad.

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