Lack of "customer service" as beneficial factor for chronic disease process?

Is customer service helping or hurting our patients? Nurses General Nursing Article

I observed the following clinical scenario several times over the last few months and wonder if it is just episodic events or something more.

There is a type of patients who openly abuse acute care system. Such patients have a multitude of chronic conditions which can be managed successfully on outpatient basis, but willfully ignore all recommendations, teachings and the rest of it. Instead, they come to ER within 24 -72 hours after discharge stating symptoms which, as they know perfectly well, would warrant readmission, such as chest pain. Once admitted, they terrorize providers and the rest of staff, refuse interventions which are recommended, demand increase of opioids, benzos and other "good stuff" and, in general, refuse to go home till receiving as much of "customer experience" as possible. The cycle is repeated X times. Then, one beautiful day, karma struck. The patient somehow bent the stick too much and totally and profoundly upset provider and nurses. Therefore, he couldn't get more of his beloved dilaudid 1 mg IVP Q2h, no more phenegran IV, appropriate 2 grams sodium/ADA1500 diet instead of regular, no private room which "they always put me in because that's what I want", and his call lights are somehow always got answered the last. Nurses even stop obligingly wipe his butt upon demand, even though "they always did it for me before". After a couple of temper tantrums, the patient leaves AMA or upon the first opportunity to do so, with a loud promise to (never shop there again) never come back to this bad, bad hospital where "nobody cares for me".

That all is a common and well known and I wouldn't bother with it. But I saw several times recently that the patients in question truly disappeared from the ER for several weeks and, when they finally came back, they were there for legitimate reasons. Moreover, their behavior changed quite a bit. They stopped doing things which caused acute decompensations, such as skipping insulins and breathing treatments. They started to take most of their meds regularly, not only "ma' pain pills". They became more flexible with home and office care. They get flu shots and avoid large gatherings of people during flu season. In other words, they finally started doing what we wanted them to do for years before.

I was so mystified that I asked two of them, indirectly, what happened. The answers were: since I cannot get what I want here, then I do not want to go here anymore unless there is no choice; so, I am just trying to stay out of this hospital. You told me that I have to do (X, Y, Z), so I give it all a try, so I might not have to go where I was treated so badly and couldn't get what I wanted.

These observations prompted me to ask a silly question: can "customer service" paradigm actually attract chronically sick patients with significant knowledge about the system in hospitals and therefore negatively affect their health on the long run? And, as an opposite, can lack of "customer service" prompt these patients to finally take better care of themselves and therefore provide significant benefits for them?

I would be thankful for others' observations and ideas about this topic. "Customer service" is pushed down the throats of all health care providers nowadays, but I never saw any research showing its benefits or lack of them in terms of long-term disease process.

Yep I've worked with many Doctors in the ER who are afraid to not give patients what they want because refusal would result in a patient complaint. This being the case I've seen tons of narcs & benzos given, a crazy amount of CTs & even MRIs ordered because the patient demanded it, super soft admissions basically because the patient didn't want to go home...... When you give and addict pills so he doesn't complain that's not care its malpractice but I've seen it more times than I can count for years

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
I totally agree that we are causing more harm than good in some cases. I am so done with this. A hospital I worked at actually told us about the Disneyland model (how staff should treat guests) and wanted us to use it!! yea, right that will happen (sarcasm)

Yes, some major, highly rated hospitals bought the Disney model and want their nurses to use it. They do. Most of them, anyway.

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
Really the "Disneyland Model"?!?!? I totally made that up & never thought even any hospital "leader" would be plain stupid enough to apply such a thing. WOW never underestimate the stupidity of nursing or hospital administration I suppose. What's next are we gonna dress up like Goofy and Snow White and sing "Its a Small World After All" over & over again like that strange, hellish ride at Disney? Come to think of it sometimes my hospital does resemble Disney. A bunch of fat oldsters waiting in line forever often for something they don't need or shouldn't have

The Disney model is indeed a thing. It's not the stupidity of nursing that brought that to a hospital near you; it's the suits who have never been near a patient.

Specializes in Neuro ICU and Med Surg.
My thoughts, as a nurse working in family medicine and following up on our patient ED and Inpatient discharges: "Customer service", or the lack of getting what they want has not deterred many of our patients that are frequent flyers at the local hospital networks. They are relentless in their pursuit of "treatment", and many have never bothered to seek follow up care for their "conditions" as recommended during their admissions.

And, not necessarily related to the issue of customer service in the hospital, but our patients receive surveys following their visits and the "complaints" we receive are...IDK...but for example, a patient complained that their provider was wearing jeans. Our office manager has to actually respond to the patient with the outcome of how their complaint was handled.

I recently had a complaint with my son's occupational therapy center. They called as I was half way there to let me know that they had no additional therapist to do our evaluation and our therapist called in sick. I was literally down the street from the appointment when I had to stop for gas and received the message. This made me super upset. Not due to the cancellation, but due to the extremely short notice. I have to leave my house at least an hour prior to the appointment to get him there on time. This is even is good weather not the crap SE MI has had lately ( got 10" + on Friday and still snowing right now).

I spoke with the centers manager. She said that staff had until 0730 to call in sick. I was shocked. Anywhere I have worked has required at least 2 hours notice. I said that was not fair to those of us who came from a distance to be there (closest center had a long waiting list) and this center and the other 2 were further from me. I chose this one because it was the next closest. I had to remind her that not everyone lived close and some have to leave their house an hour before the appointment and should be notified much sooner as by 0730 I would be more than half way there.

She changed the policy on call ins. I was happy she did so that in the future others wouldn't be in the same position.

Specializes in New Grad 2020.
These words reminds me of a certain patient I had to deal with several years ago on the adult male psych unit. This patient, who I called Cpt. Ron, was a menace. He was an acidic trouble maker to the nth degree. I could feel myself shake, probably caused by my sympathetic nervous system, in his presence. I had one heck of a time remaining professional with him, as I wanted to knock him down and beat the pulp right out of him. I cannot think of another patient to which I felt such venom.

On one admission, Cpt. Ron's threat to kill me "or someone you love" got him transferred to the State Facility. I remember the day he was discharged after the next admission. He had a job lined up as a roofer.

Years went by and Cpt. Ron was to be admitted to the Gero Psych unit and I was to do the admission. I learned that Cpt. Ron had suffered a back injury from a fall off of a roof years before and was a paraplegic.

During the interview, I asked him how tall he was. He looked at his wheelchair and said, "Right now I'm about 4 ft!" We both chuckled at that one and I sensed a difference in Cpt. Ron.

Since I was working 8 hour MN shifts, I never really got a chance to talk to Cpt. Ron, as he slept through the night. One night, however, he came to the nurses station and said to me, "So I hear my evil twin has been causing trouble around here" and proceeded to tell me of his back injury, infection, paralysis, and hypospadias as a result of urinary catheterization.

Cpt. Ron was a different person. He apologized for his past transgressions and said he had learned a lot from his plights. We discussed how life's difficulties can make us change our view of things and I told him that I forgave him and complimented him on his struggle for growth. I remember the moment as a consensually touching one and feeling teary-eyed

I wonder if I got Cpt. Ron's name from this movie?

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Ahhhh Kurt Russell and everything is again right in the world

Specializes in Psych, Corrections, Med-Surg, Ambulatory.
It appears you have discrimination and prejudice mixed-up with quality patient care. Patients do not have the RIGHT to demand and then recieve whatever they want when they want it. Patients are patients because they need medical treatment, either acute or chronic, not the spa experience nor the service one would expect as the guest of fine hotel. Of course, clean sheets, towels, personal hygiene needs to be taken care of, as well as diet (per Dr orders), and the dignity and respect that ALL people require. I get the impression that you are not a floor nurse anymore. I am there to get the patient well, then home, not to invite them back for another visit because they enjoyed the experience so much that they want to repeat the event.

This is right on, and what's wrong with the whole thing. The Hilton WANTS you to keep coming back because they get reimbursed (with your credit card) every time. You are much less vulnerable to a whole host of nosocomial problems at the Hilton. You cannot ring a bell at the Hilton to summon someone to wipe your butt.

For hospitals to think they should use the same business model is totally out to lunch.

Specializes in Psych, Corrections, Med-Surg, Ambulatory.
Really the "Disneyland Model"?!?!? I totally made that up & never thought even any hospital "leader" would be plain stupid enough to apply such a thing. WOW never underestimate the stupidity of nursing or hospital administration I suppose. What's next are we gonna dress up like Goofy and Snow White and sing "Its a Small World After All" over & over again like that strange, hellish ride at Disney? Come to think of it sometimes my hospital does resemble Disney. A bunch of fat oldsters waiting in line forever often for something they don't need or shouldn't have

If we sing the Small World song while we hand out turkey sandwiches and Dilaudid, maybe they'd be less likely to come back.

Nope anything with liberal doses of dilaudid merits at least one return trip

Specializes in ER.

You all seem to think that the hospital wants to maximize health and minimize readmissions. NOPE. They want to maximize profit. Profit, profit, profit. So if that means beds that will turn you, and massage, and wipe your butt on command, and drugging the entire populace. that's what they will do, so long as its legal. Nurses and the hospital business are working at cross purposes, that's why our jobs are so stressful.

Well said Canoe

Specializes in Addictions, psych, corrections, transfers.

As an addiction nurse, who has to deal with these behaviors on a fulltime basis from almost all of my patients. Yeah, THOSE patients that give you all this trouble, those are my bread and butter. I agree with you whole heartedly. We actually know a patient is more serious about their recovery when they have used all their chances and finally start to "humble themselves." Bending over backwards for them just seems to promote their behavior. I seriously wonder if they just try to see how much they can get out of us and see how much control they can wield. It comes from not feeling like they have control in their own lives but staff is something they feel they can control for the little time that they can interact with them. I don't stand for it, being firm but fair is one of the best ways I've found to deal with these patients. It's also part of setting boundaries. It would be great if someone could do a peer-review study about this issue and use it to discuss the validity of patient-customer and surveys related to actual health outcomes not just if they feel happy about the service they received.

Specializes in Psych, Corrections, Med-Surg, Ambulatory.
You all seem to think that the hospital wants to maximize health and minimize readmissions. NOPE. They want to maximize profit. Profit, profit, profit. So if that means beds that will turn you, and massage, and wipe your butt on command, and drugging the entire populace. that's what they will do, so long as its legal. Nurses and the hospital business are working at cross purposes, that's why our jobs are so stressful.

Of course they want profit. But they don't seem to get what undermines it. If Medicare doesn't reimburse for falls, CAUTIs and readmission within a certain time frame then profit goes out the window. Admin just can't seem to make the connection that better staffing and less dilaudid would go a much longer way.