Is there a feeling of entitlment among new grads?

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I posted this is the New Grad forum, but want to post it here as well to get some thoughts and feeling of those with experience and different perspective.

I am in the grad class of May 09. As a class we are facing difficulty in finding jobs. As I hear the stories on these forums and the complaints of my classmates I am starting to wonder if nursing students have taken on a feeling of entitlement.

This is my second degree, my first was in Biology. When I was in my first degree program we all found every opportunity we could to secure a job upon graduation. We took unpaid internships, worked after school, TA'd, networked, what ever it took. What I have scene in my class is that paid externships from the local hospital have gone unfilled. When I attend out of class lectures and seminars at the hospital there is not a single other nursing student there.

I had two full time offers upon graduation, both in the department I wanted to be in, due to the extra effort I put in. Only one other student in my class has a job. However most did not even start applying until recently and are complaining of the lack of jobs. Jobs are not entitlements, often they must be earned. I know that many of us, my self included, entered nursing in part because of the security and good pay, but when did that mean we stopped working hard to find a job and just put in a bunch of applications and hoped for the best?

An article in our local paper showed a grad nurse with a stack of scrubs with price tags still on stating she graduated last semester and still no job. Why did she go out and purchase scrubs without a job yet? A job is not a guarantee, not should it be. Nursing as a profession should be billed more as 'it takes a smart, strong person to get in' and not 'anyone who graduates has a guaranteed perfect job'. Most professionals do not expect to get the perfect job in any place they want immediately out of school, so why should nurses?

I am not try to anger anyone by making statements, I am just putting some thoughts down to see what other have observed. Think critically of the current situation facing new nurses. How does are attitudes affect how we go about obtaining jobs? Are we expecting to much, are we expecting more than other professional new grads do? What do we want the image of nursing to be? Not passing judgment, just asking questions that I really am trying to figure out.

Advice that was given to me by nursing directors is to first call the organization you are applying for and find out who will be reading your resume. Address your cover letter to them directly. DO NOT put to whom it may concern or nursing director, a fast way to get it thrown out in a competitive market.

Don't do blanket applications, take time and care to each one. Your cover letter needs and resume to address each postion individually. This takes time and care and a little research.

Keep in contanct with the orgs you are applying for. Call and ask questions, show enthusiasm for the position. Don't bug them, but keep in contact. Always reply promptly and formally. If you have a funny signature on your e-mail make sure to delete this before sending. Every contact should be professional.

Check the local hospital website for free educational opportunities. These are a great chance to network with hospital administration. Find out what the local status is from you area hospitals by asking directly, not through hearsay.

The first job may not be anywhere near where or the department you want to be in. That's OK, this is just the start. Gaining experience starts at the bottom and works up. The recession in temporary, these hiring cycles have been in existence long before we sought out jobs. It will get better. Hard work, a good attitude, and the willingness to work up will go a long way to securing a good future in a great profession.

Good luck to everyone out there, and go that extra effort to get that job you really desire!

Specializes in amb.care,mental health,geriatrics.

I don't know, but to this day, I always hear the phrase "well at least you'll always be able to find a job" spoken in relation to nurses, whether the topic is the recession or whatever. It seems like it used to be true.

We talk of a "nursing shortage" but I can remember a real nursing shortage. I can remember when, if you walked into a place asking for an application, you'd get escorted directly to the DON who would ask when can you start, and what floor do you want to work on. When I was in nursing school, the hospital we did our clinicals at would actively recruit all the students and try to get as many of them as they could.

In fact, the hospital I work at now actively recruits local graduates. They probably wouldn't have openings for all of them if all the grads intended to work there, but they do take a good number.

Maybe locality has something to do with it. Ours is a medium-sized city with only one nursing school which graduates about 35-30 grads per year. There are three hospitals, 8 or 9 nursing homes, two LTAC's, and so forth.

At any rate, the OP is absolutely right. In today's market, anyone looking for work in any field needs to promote themselves by showing interest, taking initiative, and taking opportunities for networking.

Even if you get a job easily, you have to remember that in the case of layoffs, employers will go out of their way not to lay off their most valuable employees, so make yourself valuable.

Specializes in Critical Care.
The math does speak for itself and what I'm hearing it say is that even if the economy was smoking red hot and all the baby boomers on the face of the earth required full time care there still wouldn't be an abundance of jobs in that area, right? :confused:

The math discounts those who don't pass or those who elect to wait to look for work later, but in the past there was largely no issue. Some of the big medical center facilities like Memorial Hermann et al probably took many dozens of new grads each in the past. I know the outlying community hospitals in these parts were taking 10-20 new grads each in years past for 100-300 bed facilities, so surely the monster facilities downtown took more.

That was back when instead of complaining about the lack of jobs, people complained about not finding the ideal job. :p

Specializes in A myriad of specialties.

I became a nurse way back in 1985 and even then had to hit the streets to find a job....yet come to think of it, even then it did seem easier than what it seems to be today. My sis finally starts her official nursing coursework this Fall; I certainly hope the job market is better for her next year.

is having 'to whom it may concern' for reference letters really a deal breaker???

Specializes in critical care, PACU.
To them this economic downturn is a chance to increase patient loads, freeze wages and cut benefits. Before this is all over their margins will be up and they will give themselves a big, fat bonus and a platinum gold parachute.

I totally agree. I think some hospitals are milking the poor economy to cut corners

Specializes in critical care, PACU.

I dont know if I have felt entitled, but I do agree that I went into nursing being told that it would be so easy to get a job, and Im still told that now by people who arent in the industry. I think alot of the entitlement attitudes come from people who are fearful combined with the fresh epiphany that it really isnt that easy. I still feel so blessed to have found a career that is perfect for me and I know that in the end it will all work out.

I have felt a tad disillusioned (and who knows, maybe that came off as entitlement?) because its frustrating when you do have a 4.00 in RN school and feel that effort should equal reward, but Im learning that life doesnt always work out fairly ;-).

When it comes to shifts and units, Im game for any unit, any shift, any day and will be thrilled to be there :). My official job search starts in June and I cant wait to finally be able to apply.

Yep. That's how it goes in all businesses. Some will lay off the most expensive employee and some will cut positions that a support staff. I know most small businesses will make cuts so the bosses are able to keep from going under.

Specializes in Family Nurse Practitioner.
I dont know if I have felt entitled, but I do agree that I went into nursing being told that it would be so easy to get a job, and Im still told that now by people who arent in the industry. I think alot of the entitlement attitudes come from people who are fearful combined with the fresh epiphany that it really isnt that easy. I still feel so blessed to have found a career that is perfect for me and I know that in the end it will all work out.

I have felt a tad disillusioned (and who knows, maybe that came off as entitlement?) because its frustrating when you do have a 4.00 in RN school and feel that effort should equal reward, but Im learning that life doesnt always work out fairly ;-).

When it comes to shifts and units, Im game for any unit, any shift, any day and will be thrilled to be there :). My official job search starts in June and I cant wait to finally be able to apply.

You sound like you have realistic expectations and I bet you will do just fine. I did want to ask why if you aren't applying until June that you feeling disillusioned now? :confused: Are you graduating in August? I know its different every where but around here if someone is graduating in the spring and wants a new grad orientation program they need to be lined up well before graduation because they start in June or July. Good luck!

Specializes in NICU, Post-partum.

As an upcoming new grad...here is my take on it:

I think you may be using "entitlement" when you probably really mean "expectation".

Yes, I had an expectation that when I finished nursing school, that I was going to be able to pick my hospital, pick my unit...but I did not expect to pick my shift.

The reality: The economy had a major hit while I was in.

Yes, I did get a job at my #1 Choice for hospital and unit...but I can tell you now, it was a little luck (I had no connections with this hospital, and I would wager that my application was average)...however, I do pride myself in giving one hell of an interview....which in my case, I feel made the difference between getting the job and not.

However, the truth is, had I not got that job, there ARE jobs available...it may not be the pay and the hospital and the unit you want to work in...but any new grads that cannot find a job aren't willing to negotiate ...and before anyone slams me for that answer, to REALLY want a job you have to be willing to move if necessary...yes, not every family situation is up for relocation...but the jobs are available if you are willing to go to them.

Specializes in A myriad of specialties.
is having 'to whom it may concern' for reference letters really a deal breaker???

perhaps not always a "deal breaker' but if you can find out who the don is and address the cover letter to him/her, it is more professional and demonstrates you've done your homework.

Specializes in critical care, PACU.
You sound like you have realistic expectations and I bet you will do just fine. I did want to ask why if you aren't applying until June that you feeling disillusioned now? :confused: Are you graduating in August? I know its different every where but around here if someone is graduating in the spring and wants a new grad orientation program they need to be lined up well before graduation because they start in June or July. Good luck!

Oh thank you :)

I graduate December 09 so most of the job listing I have seen thus far are for the summer. Thank you for your concern though :). If I were graduating this August I would be very grateful for you reminding me to kick it into high gear before it's too late :)

Specializes in Telemetry, ER, Trauma ICU.

I think perhaps it was more SHOCK, if you started nursing school 2-4 years ago (heck even a 1 year ago) there were so many jobs, hospitals were recruiting, there were sign on bonuses. Everyone heard stories of people going to a hospital, saying they were a RN and basically being handed a job (not really true, but everyone has heard the story). Many people go into nursing as their second career because of the job stability. I know several people who worked really hard and externed in hospitals (where they are under contract to work for "x" amount of years) that were let go after finishing nursing school, because the hospital couldn't afford to hire 20+ nurses. I think it is just a shock that when they started all they heard was "nursing shortage" and now new grads can look for 6 months before finding a job. It shows the sad state of the economy more than anything.

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