whoknows56

I'm going to be point blank. Debt matters and the more you have, the more stress people tend to have and less money that can be spent in other areas. Some people pay $500 a month in student loans. That's around $6,000 a year. It isn't as bad as people make it out to be, but it still matters. Nursing is one of those professions that the extra debt from going to one school over the other isn't worth it.

sure does take a while to say that word. i always get a kick out of myself when i type "delte" instead of "delete." i always do that, lol.

There are very few things that **** me off and threads like this is one of them. It blows my mind how some people get affended by a few written words on a Internet forum. The OP is one of the people I see everyday getting walked over. We should put the OP on Donald Trump's show and see how she handles how nice everyone is to each other. (anyone who gets affended with what I just wrote needs to take a deep breath)

FYI, "alot" isn't a word. There's no word such as "alot." You spell it a lot. For example, "that is a lot of weight." Now compare that to, "that is alot of weight."

Oh please. If you want a discussion that doesn't involve ******* another person off, doesn't involve conflicts of opinion, go talk to a priest. What are you going to do the first time a co-worker calls you stupid or a patient has no respect for you because you are only a nurse?

Yeah, it is best just to leave it as is...co-workers going to the web to talk about stuff and/or to vent...or even just to ask questions. As long as no laws are borken on this forum, I just leave stuff as is. I know a couple of peopole who work a different shift and department than I do that post on here from time to time and I just don't bother bringing it up as the situation at work doesn't include this type of conversation (aka, hey, are you so and so on allnurses?)

Agreed. Once you are out of school and have graduated, it is time to leave the "hate/dislike" of that and that from school behind and move on. Just give a positive tone to stuff.

When I have a job interview and if I didn't like the person that interviewed me, or I got a bad feeling about the place, I don't even bother checking in on the position or even sending a thank you note (I also have ended a couple of interviews by saying I don't have any questions when they ask if I have any questions....that's my way of saying no thank you). I'm a very judgemental person when it comes to the person who interviews me. If I feel that the person that is interviewing me is a moron, I don't want to work there. I've worked for boses that I would call complete incompetent and I can smell rotten fish in an split second now (you can tell after you have dealt with these people for a decade). The funny thing is, I can ALWAYS tell if a work place is friendly or not just by doing a quick glance around the place and seeing how other workers work/walk/talk, etc, and I can tell what is going on. Whenever the person I am getting interviewed by doesn't keep a smile (aka the FAKE greeting smile) for at least a few seconds, I don't want anything to do with them. I also refuse to work at a place where the interviewer never smiles during the interview after the intial greeting smile. I also refuse to work at a place that doesn't have any energy. When I was graduating college last year, I applied for a couple of positions where the people who worked there had ZERO energy. I just did my best to cut the interview as short as possible just to get away from that place. The place where I work now, the person that interviewed me smiled during most of the interview and other people who were working in the department were getting along and I could tell there were some good vibes going around.

Education debt is just debt. You will get it paid off as long as you make it a focus of your expenses. Sure the ADNs will make as much as you, but there is more to it. You got the chance to experience the college atmosphere and you have more career growth potential. The ADNs you will be working with, if they wanted to move up to a new nursing position, they will have to go back to school to get that BSN........sure some might work and go to school at the same time, but it will most likely take them longer. Edit: I also want to add the following. Once a person starts going down the road of comparing salaries of "professionals", you will always start comparing your $45,000 a year salary with the local accountants and the local accountants will start comparing their salaries with the hedgefund managers pulling in six figures and up to multiple millions of dollars a year and the hedgefund managers will compare their salaries to the CEO's of very succesfull businesses and the richest CEO's will compare their salaries to the richest athelets. In other words, there will always be a person that makes more than you. Only one person, out of billions, makes the most money of any person. True happyness is not the number in your checking account, but it does help, but being happy with yourself.

I didn't read the responses, so I might repeat what others may have said. Don't look at just salaries for the following reasons: 1: Nursing has more upside in career potential 2: Teachers teach the same subject year after year and work with the same age group year after year. Nurses can change their work envrionment if chosen so (e.g., clinical research, bedside to research, etc, etc, etc) 3: More jobs in nursing than teaching 4: I know plenty of teachers who keep getting their health care benefits cut every year

Where my parents live, a small rural area in Wisconsin, most nurses become nurses so they can get a decent job. Most people already know each other even before going to nursing school. It's the patients that come from outside of the small city that don't know the nurses, but most patients from the city already know a good number of the nurses and other staff. Thats just how it is around that area.

I get along with everyone since I don't ***** about stuff. I've learned my lessons in past jobs. When I graduated high school, I got a job transporting patients....I was going to college at the same time. There was another co-worker that was a nursing student and we would often talk about topics related to human physiology and the life long "labor" workers hated us. They would talk behind my back, put Mediaography in my mail box (true story), and would write stuff on paper when nobody was around. I was as happy as heck when I moved away to finish my degree. I'm so glad to work with "educated" people now.

I took a pathology and pharm class that is focused towards nursing students. The classes were as easy as heck...nothing like med school level. I took organic chemistry and biochemistry and those courses were much tougher. Debating between a nursing career and a medical career simply comes down to treating the patient or caring for the patient (for non NP positions).

No need to say a person is being reckless like on this forum. I know some people what loved their major of choice until their senior year (people can change). So they were stuck in school for two more years at a private school racking up more debt. Sure 100k is too much for any degree, but it can happen. They are the ones that have to pay the loans back every month. Edit: In full disclosure, I have $50,000 of student loan debt. Do I struggle to pay it back? No. I'm married and we live off my wife's salary and every penny I earn goes to paying back the student loans. I will have it paid off next year (two years out of school).

The average med school debt these days is around $170k. It's only going to get worse as tuition keeps going up and up. Some med schools charge $80,000 a year just on tuition. That's a complete rip off.