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Aug 26, 2009 08:12 AM

Husband wondering about nursing school failure/dropout rates

by hubby73

So I'm the husband of a hard-working nursing student who's been at it for the last 18 months at UNLV. All along my wife has done well and passed all of her classes. As a medical graduate myself I know that it can take long hours of studying and working to get by and I've been truly amazed and proud of how hard my wife has worked to get through her degree program.

So why am I here? Because I'm truly angry and frustrated by what has just happened and my wife is too upset even to talk to her family, let alone get on here and vent. Two days prior to her planned graduation, with family all arriving and plans all set, she was told that she has failed one of her courses, by the typical <1% (I believe that she needed a 75% in the class and she got a 74.2%). In all her other courses she has had A's. Reviewing the questions she remembered vividly it seemed like there was tremendous ambiguity to me...

What truly amazes me is that about 20% of her classmates had this happen. All of these students passed every class up to this point, and then two days prior to graduation they flunked out. This seems like cruel and unusual punishment.... You make people work their tails off for months and then fail them just days prior to graduation! Many of them have children counting on them for support (ie. single mothers) or were in financial hardship just to reach that point, or had long term relationships fall apart due to the hardship of nursing school. All that to fail 2 days prior to graduation. I just cannot believe the lack of compassion of the faculty. Surely it must be possible to "weed-out" those who shouldn't become nurses long before graduation rather than two days prior.... In my schooling it seemed to me that most of the failing occurred within the first few semesters rather than at the end. I suppose the nursing school wouldn't make the same kind of money on tuition that way however...

So what I am wondering is whether or not this is commonplace? Is this something unique to UNLV? Is this something that other people have experienced at this school or elsewhere? Does anyone think this is fair?

Thanks for any comments, thoughts, or anecdotes,

Confused husband


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from sbyramRN
Old Aug 26, 2009, 08:30 AM

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Yes, it is very common. My husband said nursing school was two years of pure hazing. We only graduated 12 of the 50 we started with. I am sorry your wife is going through this. It is horrible.
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from CrufflerJJ
Old Aug 26, 2009, 08:43 AM

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"Tremendous ambiguity" is the standard for many nursing tests. I learned to just repeat my magic mantra over & over & over & over: "That's OK". Just nod your head like a dumb little student & keep plodding on. Sorry to hear that your wife got hurt.

I'm lucky in the sense that my accelerated BSN program did a GREAT job of retaining students. We started with 48 people, and graduated 47. The one who left the program seems to have helped himself flunk out more than anything else.
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from JoPACURN
Old Aug 26, 2009, 08:47 AM

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Can she retake that class?
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from Bobbkat
Old Aug 26, 2009, 08:50 AM

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It's common. In my program, everything must be passed with at least an 80%. Every semester we have people that flunk courses with 79.3, or something like that. Schools are pretty serious about making sure that everyone knows enough content that they can not just be good nurses, but also safe nurses. It really, really sucks that this happened to your wife right at the end though. Can she retake the course? Usually you can retake things a certain number of times. Either that, or there may be an appeals process that she can go through in order to graduate. Sometimes, nursing faculty can make the decision to 'bend' policy for a student, if they can demonstrate that they really do know the content at the level that they need to. I've never actually heard of this working with any of my classmates, but according to my school, it is possible. I wish her good luck, and really hope that even with this setback she doesn't give up.

Bethany
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Old Aug 26, 2009, 08:58 AM

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We lost 20% of our class but nobody in the final two semesters.

It does suck to get dumped at the end of the program but on the other hand, if someone doesn't meet the requirements then they didn't meet the requirements. It's harsh but everybody knows the rules going in and everybody is playing by the same rules.

Personally, I think the answer is to make it harder to get accepted to nursing school.

Or perhaps the first semester should be extremely difficult and be used as a weeding out process.
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from aKyRN81
Old Aug 26, 2009, 09:00 AM

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My sincere empathy to both of you, but want to reassure you that this is NOT a new situation. I graduated in 81, my family wanted to throw a party and I wouldn't let them send invitations until I was absolutely positive and had confirmation in hand that I had passed the last semester ( and like your wife, I had done well throughout). This same situation of failing at the very last minute without warning has happened to WAY too many people over the years........
Sorry it caught both of you because it is not only a shame that it happened, but it does destroy life plans...
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from nurse2be09
Old Aug 26, 2009, 09:16 AM

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Yes, this is very common. Last year, we had a student who failed her last class in the last semester right before graduation. She had to repeat it again with our class. She had to wait an entire year to graduate. This student had a 74.5% and they don't round up unless it's a 74.6%. You need a 75% to pass the class.

Is it possible that your wife can retake the class? Most nursing schools will let you fail one class ONLY and then come back and retake the class again the next year, since most nursing courses are only offered once a year.
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Old Aug 26, 2009, 09:25 AM

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yes it's normal for this to happen, when i gradiuated we started the progam with 44 students and the day before graduation 3 were told they failed and we had a total of 20 of us graduate together...when we began nursing school the first words out of the professors mouth were " look at the person next to you that person may not be there during graduation " then they told us " only the best and brightest will make it " ... ..... back then once you failed you failed and were not allowed to come back in the program ,, and it was hard to get into any other program ..... you were done......

you didn't write what kind of medical person you were , but you understand the competition in the medical field... i wish your wife luck and hope she can get back into her program and finish that class.... please keep us posted .. tell her she will get lots of support here .. the people here are wonderful and can help her get through this....

Robin RN, BSN
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from moncj66
Old Aug 26, 2009, 09:41 AM

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Similar situation happened to me but I was in 3rd semester. Its cruel if you ask me especially if we are seniors! I think "weeding out" should be the 1st two semesters, not the last two. I feel sorry for your wife and trust me I know the feeling! I think I felt every single emotion possible b/c I know how hard I worked. Hopefully she can retake the class, I'm pretty sure most nursing school give student One extra shot.
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