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- Feb 9, '01 by babs_rnI think there's something about moving into a new facility that makes administrators go crazy with changes. I have been unfortunate enough to have worked in two such facilities...in one, the ED went to RED (yeah, let's really up those blood pressures!) and in another, it was hunter green. EVERYBODY in the ER wore those colors..nurses, techs, EVERYBODY. When I was doing agency nursing, I worked in an ER in a facility in which the ER staff wore hunter green and the cardiopulmonary staff wore red...looked like Christmas in there every day! lol...
Seriously, I do take issue with facilities arbitrarily developing policies regarding "departmental colors" and then not providing at least a uniform allowance to cover it. Most of us have lots of scrubs already and they're not the cheapest things in the world.
- Feb 9, '01 by MartyLThe day the guys wear upsidedown urine hats on their heads (like the girls do or did) is the day I will put a nursing cap on as well. Our nursing school class did not even have our pictures made with those hideous things on our heads. I agree with the fact that if the hospital is not providing the uniform, then all they should expect is clean, neat and professional--how THAT translates into all white is beyond me!
(And why specify a specific color? THAT doesn't work with pulling staff or staff transfers, etc. In an ideal world maybe. I do try to wear the "color of the day" but if it is dirty, I wear what I have and I have never been sent home, imagine that!)
- Feb 11, '01 by CashewLPNWell.. I actually like color codes...
We have to pay for our own, but thanks to union, we get an allowence... its not great, but it works...
the nurses wear white, and the aides wear teal... but, everyone wears street clothes with lab coats... which honestly sucks... everyone should wear a different color, for each different job (respiratory, MD's, clerks, et al) if just for only we can make it easier for the patients to figure out who is who...
That and a color code booklet would be nice...
- Feb 11, '01 by MollyJI don't work in the hospital so what I say isn't worth much and will make me vulnerable to attack.
NO one here is advocating a return to caps and whites and I am not here to disagree with that. It is an honorable part of our past.
Nurses have given up their identity with the one size fits all scrubs and I guess I am "for" something that would at least differentiate professional staff from NA's and housekeepers. This is not a small part of our relative invisibility in the hospital.
The school I work at now, the health department I worked at, when I did case management all assumed that I would wear clothes(!) and NONE of them offered me a clothing allowance. In general, I had/have clothing that I reserved for work and they cost more than scrubs. uni's are a business expense and your tax advisor can tell you how or if this can benefit you but I have to tell you that this discussion about a clothing allowance surprises me. Clothes to wear to work are a part of being employed anywhere. Beats the heck out of not being employed.
As for the nurse who said that her employer couldn't tell her what to wear. I really assume that this nurse said this is in the spirit of, "I know what is appropriate for me," but I think employers do have this right. You represent their agency. What you wear says tons about you, and in turn your employer. I remember a _resident physician_ who was bra-less under a v-neck scrub shirt. That was inappropriate and someone needed to talk to her. On the other hand, I worked with a social worker who worked with very poor teen mothers. She insisted on wearing Evan Picone suits to work. She wasn't innapropriate, but I always felt her dress put a clear line of difference (and unapproachability) between her and clients. Harder to counsel someone for dressing too nice. In the 80's I was uncomfortable with the long fingernails some of my nurse colleagues sported to work and it came as no surprise when infections were linked to fake nails. I always thought that if I were a patient and some nurse with saber-nails were heading for my perineum, I'd be very worried. I don't want to hear from the manicured. Nurses have always struggled to express a little individuality while being uniformed. I assume weird socks still rule and I indulged in weird socks too when I was in scrubs, but I think their is a time when employers MUST counsel employees on appearance.
Just some thoughts.
- Feb 11, '01 by SoCalGALGreetings, I have to say that I agree with MollyJ. I think that an employer does have a right to mandate a dress code, HOWEVER, there's no excuse for employers who constantly change policies when the employees are footing the bill! Even though uniforms are tax deductible, it still takes a chunk of money to buy multiple sets (let's face it, scrubs are a 'wear once at a time only' item. With the exception of where I work now, I've always worked with a dress code that separates the different professions. While I agree that ultimately the patient could care less what color HCPs wear, it seemed to help identify 'who was doing what'(and it DID NOT substitute for good-ole communication, just helped it along by giving visual clues) and the patients that I've worked with have liked the concept.
I've also always had a uniform allowance or have been given the scrubs, too. If you find out why the new VP wants to change the dress code, maybe it would make the change easier. Also, ask around and find out what color the nurses would like and see if you could submit a request for it, BE PROACTIVE! In one facility I worked, we changed colors and administration actually had the nursing staff vote on a choice of color they wanted! After the initial submission, the 'color' was narrowed down to 3 choices and it was voted on by the nursing staff. THIS WENT OVER REALLY WELL AND EVERYBODY FELT THAT THEY HAD CONTRIBUTED!If the new VP is gung-ho, be supportive of this change..... then try to get her to tackle things that really impact you like STAFFING, HOURS, etc!!!!
- Feb 11, '01 by Tim-GNPFrom a legal standpoint, if the facility did not require a dress code as part of your condition for hire [i.e., gave you in writing what you should wear in writing, in the form of an employee handbook, for which you probably signed upon the date of your hire], then [s]he cannot enforce one now, WITHOUT providing you with the uniform, or reimbursement for same.
I have always been against the use of uniforms in the nursing homes, myself... We profess that it is the patient's home. But, I pose this question: How many of you have people running around your houses dressed in uniforms all day? Administration should spend more time recruiting staff, then wasting their time on this sort of nonsense. If they do have money to reimburse for uniforms, wouldn't it be logical to give it to the staff as a bonus to enhance retention?
Oh well... all that I know is I have no intentions of shaving my legs to put on a pair of white stockings! Even if I were reimbursed for it!!!
- Feb 11, '01 by OC_An KheDress codes with specific colors, no way. Not until every employee of the hospital has uniform with a specific color. The bean coounters can all be in black scrubs, nursing administrators could wear camoflage,
the CEO maybe royal purple, etc.
What a waste of resources.
- Feb 11, '01 by hollykateTim-GNP
The idea of you in white stockings is great. I think you would look lovely!
I worked at a facility where every dept was color coded. Lab wore pink (the guys loved that) ER wore navy, CCU green, reg floors, white, CNA's teal, respiratory carolina blue. housekeeping some sort of funny print. Believe me, the patients could not keep any of that straight. They came in pain, and could not learn a color code if they needed to- it was the last thing on their minds. The MD's thought the code was ridiculous. I think it did help new staff figure out who was who a little faster though. Where I work now, its all one color, excepting the MD's who sometimes slum it and wear the blue we all wear. (They tell me they like being mistaken for nursing...) but our scrubs are provided, no strings attached (well, attached to the pants they are).
- Feb 11, '01 by TiaraHospital administration is always fiddling while Rome burns. Let's worry about coded-color uniforms and warm fuzzies and scripts for patients; that will take the heat off the real problems like patient care.
- Feb 13, '01 by glcasOriginally posted by maikranz:
Of course, white stockings and "duty shoes" (Clinic 411s) with the
perky white cap always makes a fashion statement that can't be faulted.....
Hey! you forgot to starch the uniform, keep the hem below your knees and your hair above your collar. I assume your shoes are carefully polished and your white stockings are without runs.
Gosh, I'm feeling old.