Do nurses get away with nurse brutality

[DesiDani]

Nurses like police are supposed to remain calm and professional at all times. What someone sees is a matter of perspective. We can close the curtain, so that 6 person team to give a combative patient handol is not displayed on the news. Or straining someone's grandma to put in a ng tube.

If the public saw what we had to do would we too be accused of brutality?

[K+MgSO4, BSN]

Are you talking about CPR? Or what?

Or full active resus, not limiting care on those with therminal illness or dementia?

That multiple stabs for IV access and phelbotomy hurt the LoL who doesn't understand why we are doing it.

That hauling a patient up for xray and CT after each other when a million investigations won't change the outcome?

[Mavrick, BSN, RN]

Nurses like police are supposed to remain calm and professional at all times. What someone sees is a matter of perspective. We can close the curtain, so that 6 person team to give a combative patient handol is not displayed on the news. Or straining someone's grandma to put in a ng tube.

If the public saw what we had to do would we too be accused of brutality?

Probably. If they looked at what we do with the perspective of ignorance most lay people have of the law enforcement world.

For the most part nurses are trusted before the fact and get an even more generous view of our requests when we explain why we are doing something.

Police get spit on just for being in a uniform.

Some people don't give a crap about other people's rights when they are on their own self righteous mission to get what they want, so they blame and torment the enforcer.

When given a choice about being in the same space with some looney tune with a weapon, you call someone ELSE (police) to handle your problem and get outta the way. You're getting out while they have to go in.

Since when can you be instantly, absolutely, positively, 100% certain, like your life depended on it that some stranger you just met in low light conditions doesn't have some lethal piece of metal in their fast-moving, coming at you hands????? Cuz if you are wrong just once, you ain't getting home today. or EVER.

Sure, there are bad apples that deserve a double dose of punishment for abusing their position of trust. That should take a jury of peers to judge these people who have to deal with the underbelly of life that law enforcement officers do.

Nurses are NOT like police. There is NO comparison to what nurses do.

[Leader25, ASN, BSN, RN]

police brutality? perspective?

I guess you never had the need to call 911.I would like to hear your perspective after you get called to depose. Good luck in your career.

[nursesunny, ASN, BSN, MSN, LPN, RN]

"handol"...Nurse? I don't think so, just nurse bait...

[K+MgSO4, BSN]

O my god!

Whatever your drinking/smoking please stop.

Most of us who work in a hospital setting have had to endure these experiences. There are only a very scant few who get any enjoyment or kick from holding down a man suffering from schizophrenia which on top of his PTSD from being a child soldier in South Sudan, or dropping a drainage NG on the 92 y/o with a bowel obstruction who is vomiting faceal matter.

Not one of those things is nice, yes people will hear the screams and not understand but that is a hospital setting.

I think the general public hear us apologising to the 92 as we shove the tube in her nose after we explain the procedure to her. I think the general public are happy we are dealing with the patient who is arguing with the vital signs machine and scaring other people in the unit.

[MunoRN, RN]

Are you talking about CPR? Or what?

I'm referring to pretty typical ICU care that I provide in patients where the family doesn't see any downside to what we're subjecting them to. (I'm not agreeing we guilty of "brutality", but it is refreshing to see someone complain that maybe we need to provide less interventions sometimes).

[Persephone Paige, ADN]

I liked the 'straining' myself. Straining to poop, straining through a colander, or restraining?

[adventure_rn, MSN, NP]

Um, the first rule of nurse fight club is to remove all witnesses prior to brutalizing a patient. Why on Earth would you have a coherent non-hospital personnel as a witness? Unless you're planning on administering the "handol" to that person next...

Um, the first rule of fight club is you don't talk about fight club!!

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[NurseBlaq]

I'm trying to figure out how you reduced saving a patient's life via scientifically proven necessities to compare it with police using brutal force resulting in the death of people, sometimes unjustifiably. On what planet are the two the same? Stop trolling.

[PeakRN]

What you are describing is not brutality, though it is uncomfortable to witness or be a part of. I do not enjoy restraining patients, injecting emergency psychiatric medications, or placing NGs (in any patient, let alone someone who is no longer their own medical decision maker); in fact I suspect that the vast majority of nurses absolutely hate these tasks. We do them for the benefit of our patients.

Would you suggest that it is more humane to allow a violent psychotic patient to run the streets? Where is the dignity in that? Should we allow someone who does not have the ability to understand their own care decisions to suffer because they cannot reason the risks and benefits of treatment?

What is your motive? I don't believe that you are a nurse (or any healthcare professional for that matter), and I don't think that your interests here are admirable.

[Been there,done that, ASN, RN]

I find it hard to believe you are a nurse. It's Haldol, and there are never 6 people available to administer it. Nurses administer it , under a doctor's order... to maintain the patient's safety.

We also don't "strain" grandma.

[JadedCPN, BSN, RN]

I had to go back to your previous posts to see if you were a troll. Everything about your post is mind-boggling.