Do all nurses make fatal mistakes? - page 3

I am a nursing student and today one of my fellow students was telling me how she expects to make a mistake in her career that will lead to a patient's death. She then said every person she knows in... Read More

  1. by   K+MgSO4
    Quote from Agatha12
    I have only 3 years experience. I made a few medicine errors but all were harmless, not even close to fatal. Its not that easy to kill patient unless you work in ICU and overdose very potent drug.
    sorry, no!
    PINCH medications are declared high risk because they are - agency nurse attempted to give 50 units of novoRAPID instead of NovMIX. Graduate nurse decided she knew better than me (unit manger), the nurse in charge and the medical notes - withheld DAPT (double anti platelet therpay) on a patient with a GI bleed - pt was 3 weeks post cardiac stents for an MI. DAPT was required for patency of his stents for 6 months. Pt missed 2 doses as nurse on next shift did not pay attention to drug chart. Pt had a stent occlusion - graduate nurse no longer works on my ward (for many reasons). When in risk and quality investigated a death - pt missed his NOAC for 3 days because of 2 key nursing reasons, ED nurse sent the wife home with all his meds because she didn't want to store them & ward staff kept documenting N (not available) but not one person went to find out exactly what the medication was - recognised on day 4 morning shift but pt arrested before medication was delivered...
  2. by   wondern
    Tell your friend if she plans on killing someone she probably will! It's called self-fulfilling prophecy so maybe she should listen to her instincts and change career paths now!
    Maybe God is talking to her to prevent this death/killing?! Listen to her instincts and have some compassion for the person she may kill.
    You, in the meantime, after encouraging your friend to change her mind about killing someone, triple check med doses, narcotic doses, aminophylline drips, etc. and don't have patients drink anything you haven't triple checked if you've poured from a wrong bottle, look at the bottle, etc. Look at your patient not just the monitors! Get on top of any strange reactions from meds, etc.!
    Also watch equipment around patients. Don't use a cautery pen near a dry gauze! Don't forget to recalibrate any laser every single time you turn it on!
    If you're pumping up a stretcher and it seems heavy, look up, you could be pushing a big monitor off it's mount with a little ole IV pole to land within inches of a patients head or something!
    Just saying there are a lot of potential life-threatening things that can and do happen in a hospital!!! I'm sure if I'd killed anyone I would not want to talk about it online. Even if I did for the purpose of preventing anyone else doing the same an attorney would probably advise otherwise.
  3. by   RNperdiem
    For some reason, I am thinking about the serial killers who have worked in healthcare. But their fatalities are not the result of mistakes.
  4. by   brownbook
    I wanted to be so sarcastic in my reply.....but I restrained myself.

    I hate math and statistics, but I am pretty certain thousands more people die in car accidents each year than from nurses, and I'll even include doctors, making fatal mistakes.

    I doubt if you or your friend go around saying you are going to make a fatal mistake and kill yourselves, your loved ones, or an innocent stranger, in an automobile accident once a year.

    That is much more likely to happen but we all seem to accept it.

    Please repeat after me. "It is very very VERY difficult to kill a patient from a wrong IV, or pill, or "mistake".

    OK I'll have to be a little snarky, if you are so gullible to believe a preposterous statement your friend makes, I don't think you should go into nursing!
  5. by   justtryintonurse
    Hey ya know how I heard something from a friend and then came here to relay the question? That was me NOT believing something I heard before I got more information.

    If you're so negative that you think you should suggest to a nursing student they shouldn't enter the field simply because they asked a question, perhaps you shouldn't be in nursing yourself.
  6. by   Ben_Dover
    Yikes.... that's a very negative self-prophecy! Hope her belief changes once she's done with school!
  7. by   melschmidt28
    Ok I am a new grad and I accidentally gave Xarelto about 5 hours after the epidural was removed instead of 6 hours after due to a communication error. Does anyone think this is something I should be worried about? I don't know what the consequences are.
    Thanks
  8. by   wondern
    Quote from justtryintonurse
    Hey ya know how I heard something from a friend and then came here to relay the question? That was me NOT believing something I heard before I got more information.

    If you're so negative that you think you should suggest to a nursing student they shouldn't enter the field simply because they asked a question, perhaps you shouldn't be in nursing yourself.
    Really? REALLY??? R-E-A-L-L-Y???!!! I don't think so. Why ask if you don't want true answers?!!!!

    And also you're welcome for all those suggestions to help you and "your friend" to keep from possibly killing someone too!!!

    There is sooooo much to be said for experience! You are living proof!!!
  9. by   klone
    Geez, Brownbook and wondern - dial it down a notch!
  10. by   Julius Seizure
    Quote from brownbook
    I wanted to be so sarcastic in my reply.....but I restrained myself.

    I hate math and statistics, but I am pretty certain thousands more people die in car accidents each year than from nurses, and I'll even include doctors, making fatal mistakes.

    I doubt if you or your friend go around saying you are going to make a fatal mistake and kill yourselves, your loved ones, or an innocent stranger, in an automobile accident once a year.

    That is much more likely to happen but we all seem to accept it.

    Please repeat after me. "It is very very VERY difficult to kill a patient from a wrong IV, or pill, or "mistake".

    OK I'll have to be a little snarky, if you are so gullible to believe a preposterous statement your friend makes, I don't think you should go into nursing!
    Maybe you should have restrained yourself a little better. That last sentence was unnecessary and unreasonable.
    Last edit by Julius Seizure on Nov 5
  11. by   wondern
    Quote from klone
    Geez, Brownbook and wondern - dial it down a notch!
    Why don't you! The OP is just a flame thrower! Tossing it out her 'friend' plans on killing someone. You dial it down klone!
  12. by   klone
    Quote from wondern
    Why don't you! The OP is just a flame thrower! Tossing it out her 'friend' plans on killing someone. You dial it down klone!
    It's times like these when I wish Allnurses had better emojis.

    Trust me, if I dialed it down any further than I am in this thread, I'd be unconscious.

    You see a flame thrower, I see a naïve student who is asking an earnest (albeit somewhat alarming) question.
  13. by   justtryintonurse
    THANK YOU!

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