Will you work during a Pandemic? - page 2
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Oct 30, '07Under those "promises" by the government ABSOLUTELY NOT. Family #1. How many "promises" have they made to military recruits??? I believe our military should receive the BEST of everything! They receive the crappiest care (including healthcare) of all! It infuriates me!!!
ebear (grew up at Fort Benning)
Oct 30, '07Quote from GojuAnd would the government then "take care" of my orphaned children as well as they had "taken care" of me? Or Mr. O'Myacin, who undoubedly would be doing his "civic duty" by putting on his uniform and trying to enforce martial law?...So, no... don't think I'd be clocking in that day.Scenario:
H5N1 (the bird flu) mutates to become efficient at transmitting Human to human causing a Pandemic, with a case fatality rate of 60% and with 80% of the cases in the 0-40 year old age range.
Hospitals will be quickly overrun. Hospital staff shortages are 50%. The Government orders all nurses to work. There is not enough Personal Protection Equipment (N95 masks, gloves, goggles, tamiflu, vax, etc)
Home quarantines become common (in the Fed plans).
Your family is also quarantined in your home. You are running out of food and the Government promises you will be "taken care of" if you report to work.
Will you go?
Oct 30, '07Yeah I'd work, but then again I don't have children. I can certainly understand parents not coming in so they can take care of their kids, and since i'm the only nurse on my unit without kids I guess I'll be the only one working lol
Oct 30, '07You know truthfully i think in a pandemic situation you would see health care fall back to when people took care of their own in their own homes. I dont think they would admit for flu anyway. I think the dx would be made by a mobile medical group and those exposed within that family would be quarentined to care for their sick in their own homes. The only people who would be hospitalized would be those needing care for injury or accident and others who we see admitted with the vague complaints would be cared for out of the home until it was known they needed some type of surgery.
Oct 30, '07No PPE? No Workee! If healthcare workers drop-who'll care for them? The truth is...if there is a pandemic....many, many will die! I will assume mass casualty triage parameters will be used. Anyone who doesn't look salvageable-pushed to the side, to make way for those who may survive.
Ugly, but an ugly truth.
Oct 30, '07Quote from gojupersonally, that seems like a very good time to sail the boat off into the sunset. no ppe, no work!hospitals will be quickly overrun. hospital staff shortages are 50%. the government orders all nurses to work. there is not enough personal protection equipment (n95 masks, gloves, goggles, tamiflu, vax, etc)
home quarantines become common (in the fed plans).
your family is also quarantined in your home. you are running out of food and the government promises you will be "taken care of" if you report to work.
will you go?
Oct 30, '07Somehow I see a problem that with staff extremely short, we would not be allowed to leave. To go home would mean to risk bringing illness home. If things were desperate, nurses would somehow be fed, housed and put to work by the hospitals.
I'm not sure I would be committed enough to leave my family behind. I would like to think I could do what needed to be done, but without PPD, why?
Oct 30, '07Nope. Working during a Malthusian event of such proportions would be akin to medieval nuns and monks sacrificing themselves. I ain't a saint.
Oct 30, '07Reading these responses reminds me of parts from Barry's "The Great Influenza" where the Gov forced nurses to work.
Many nurses I spoke with have told me they didn't believe in "the pandemic" or that the "magical" vax will be there for them.
It is hard to believe that so many in the profession are so clueless as to the realities set before us.
Nurses are the front line defense the people have... and if the people knew that the nurses wouldn't be there for them, they might take pandemic prepping more seriously or demand that PPE was provided.
Have you all been stigmatized for talking about the need for Pandemic planning at your places of work?
Oct 30, '07I had a lecture in school on disasters. He said, when you see someone hit the floor, you turn and run the other way, and that's exactly what I would do.
Oct 30, '07Quote from GojuMy home care agency actually has been quite proactive in sending us information regarding the threat and recommending preparation. I have been pleased with that, though the level of detail is somewhat minimal. Sadly, the vast majority of my coworkers are not concerned at all and are not preparing in any way.Have you all been stigmatized for talking about the need for Pandemic planning at your places of work?
During a pandemic such as that outlined in the original post, I believe that my agency would cease operations after handing off patient care to family members--it would decrease the likelihood of both staff and clients becoming infected. It just would not make sense to subject the patients to a constant stream of potentially infected nurses when they have family that can provide all required care.