So many of you are amazing people and nurses. The time you put in responding to posts on Allnurses really does make a difference.
BUT.
When people come here asking for advice on a situation, they are not looking for your opinion of them as a person or their behavior. You all know what threads I'm talking about.
It's one thing to point out that their behavior could potentially be dangerous to patients.
It's one thing to be honest and tell them that their future doesn't look too bright.
It's one thing to suggest they may find seeing a therapist very helpful.
It's another to tell them they are mentally ill, mock them RELENTLESSLY, or judge them. When you do this to your fellow nurses (that have just come to you for advice), you're worse than that poor, scared soul you FLAMED for thinking a drug abuser may have a bloodborne illness.
These posters are often simply desperate, scared, or just plain curious!
I know it's important to have a thick skin when you work in healthcare, and I sure as heck am not busting out the trigger-words bully†or NETY.†It's just that even in my CNA class, it was emphasized over and over that it's not our place to judge patients. Can't you afford the same courtesy to other nurses?
I'm generally a pretty quiet person, but I believe in standing up for other people. So I just had to put this out there.
But I gotta say that it really makes me want to reach right through the screen and slap somebody when I have some student try to school me in nursing diagnosis ... that is all.
I just want to respond to these people......
Do you know GrnTea wrote the book on nursing diagnosis?
No, I mean, literally.... Wrote the book. Sit down, shut up, learn something. lol
Shame on anyone that negatively reacts to your opinion. I am with you 100%.
Thick or thin skin- it does not matter. These keyboard warriors are no better than internet bullies (age 11-12) that harass other young kids. What if someone with "thin skin" was so negatively impacted by the rude and over-critical responses, that they went and hurt themselves for being ashamed of asking a question? How would you nurses- whose main goal is to save lives and treat the human spirit- feel if your harsh words drove someone to that point? Think about it. You may have children, siblings, other loved ones. Would you want anyone to be as ridiculous and judgmental towards them? PUT YOURSELF IN THEIR SHOES. It'll hopefully help open your eyes.
#smh #nursesreallydoeattheiryoung #shameonyou
If someone decided to opt out because of stuff they read here, I'm pretty sure they had bigger things wrong than simply allnurses pushing them over the edge.
Exhausted. My throat is funky and if my 9-year old would just fall asleep, I could get some sleep, too. *sigh*
I just gave up on reading this whole thread around post 170-something. Not sure what kept me in it that long, to be honest. It's good conversation, don't get me wrong, but I've come to the conclusion that I'm out of patience for posts that essentially say that because I'm a nurse, I should feel certain things and respond to others in a specific way.
Moms are expected to be a certain way. Women are expected to look a certain way. And I've apparently joined a profession that requires its employees to "speak" a certain way. I'm ready to break out of all of those molds and just coexist in the human mold.
Last time I checked, the only requirements for being a nurse were passing school followed by passing a test. I didn't realize we were supposed to also pass a personality test.
It would depend on the level of negligence by the nurse, I myself have used this site for advice and have gotten lots of great constructive criticism and advice. We should always aim to help and assist our brothers and sisters in he field.
Exhausted. My throat is funky and if my 9-year old would just fall asleep, I could get some sleep, too. *sigh*
I just gave up on reading this whole thread around post 170-something. Not sure what kept me in it that long, to be honest. It's good conversation, don't get me wrong, but I've come to the conclusion that I'm out of patience for posts that essentially say that because I'm a nurse, I should feel certain things and respond to others in a specific way.
Moms are expected to be a certain way. Women are expected to look a certain way. And I've apparently joined a profession that requires its employees to "speak" a certain way. I'm ready to break out of all of those molds and just coexist in the human mold.
Last time I checked, the only requirements for being a nurse were passing school followed by passing a test. I didn't realize we were supposed to also pass a personality test.
Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
abrasive: (of a person or manner) showing little concern for the feelings of others; harsh
constructive: serving a useful purpose; tending to build up.
dichotomy: a division or contrast between two things that are or are represented as being opposed or entirely different.
I am pretty sure these two do not go hand in hand per the definitions I found
If you are going to say "many times people get abrasive because those asking for constructive advice freak out when they get it". I have seen instances when people have been first commenter on a post and the first thing they did was become very condescending and rude. This is abrasive and not at all constructive... treating people that way serves no positive purpose. In fact it can often push people in the opposite direction than what is being proposed.
Constructive does not go hand in hand with abrasive. It also does not go hand in hand with coddling.
It has been mentioned that when people respond to you poorly often, they should look at the common denominator..
You know, I'm starting to find your comments less and less constructive and more and more condescending.
Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
No we're back to calling out grammar again? That's really constructive.
Going back lack to what Mr.Murse is saying, it is an ethical issue to me when posters are unnecessarily rude to others because they are anonymous. It doesn't matter if you're on a beach in Tahiti on vacation - rude is rude is rude.
But rude is in the eye of the beholder. In the South, one doesn't jump right into the purpose of one's conversation without asking after one's family, how one's day is going, etc. It would be rude to say "Hey, Cindy -- can you please grab me a quick glucose on Mrs. Persnickety?" without first going through the greeting ritual. But in New York, one is more likely to hear "Grab me a quick glucose on Mrs. Persnickety" at top volume and without the greeting ritual -- and that's not considered rude. I was in culture shock when I moved from the Midwest to the east coast and thought everyone I met was rude. And then again when I moved to Seattle where I was CONVINCED that there was Valium in the water supply . . . .
"Rude is rude is rude" is a fallacy. It depends upon culture, region, ethnicity . . . all sorts of other things that don't come across on the internet well. If at all.
Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
Exhausted. My throat is funky and if my 9-year old would just fall asleep, I could get some sleep, too. *sigh*
I just gave up on reading this whole thread around post 170-something. Not sure what kept me in it that long, to be honest. It's good conversation, don't get me wrong, but I've come to the conclusion that I'm out of patience for posts that essentially say that because I'm a nurse, I should feel certain things and respond to others in a specific way.
Moms are expected to be a certain way. Women are expected to look a certain way. And I've apparently joined a profession that requires its employees to "speak" a certain way. I'm ready to break out of all of those molds and just coexist in the human mold.
Last time I checked, the only requirements for being a nurse were passing school followed by passing a test. I didn't realize we were supposed to also pass a personality test.
You mean you failed the endlessly compassionate and giving portion of your licensing exam?
What really cracks me up is the fact that nurses are the most trusted professionals and you guys pat yourself on the back for that. I wonder how many of the people who were polled would feel if they knew that nurses in general have a lot of contempt for the people they treat. I mean, how many threads have there been regarding the subject of patients that annoy you. Drug seekers, obese, people who come to the ER for stupid reasons, family member who annoy you and so on.
@ TheGooch: So what? In general, I think reality checks are a good mental health measure. Why should it bother me that an oppressive and damaging stereotype gets exploded?
Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
What really cracks me up is the fact that nurses are the most trusted professionals and you guys pat yourself on the back for that. I wonder how many of the people who were polled would feel if they knew that nurses in general have a lot of contempt for the people they treat. I mean, how many threads have there been regarding the subject of patients that annoy you. Drug seekers, obese, people who come to the ER for stupid reasons, family member who annoy you and so on.
Venting about patients and family members who annoy us is healthy. Much better to vent here than to tell some incredibly needy, foolish or nasty patient or visitor exactly what we think of them!
ixchel
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I just want to respond to these people......
Do you know GrnTea wrote the book on nursing diagnosis?
No, I mean, literally.... Wrote the book. Sit down, shut up, learn something. lol