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I've kind of done this before. I had a patient having a severe med reaction once. Wheezing. Hives. Very panicked. We didn't have rapid response at my hospital yet and the doctor wasn't answering his pages. I gave IV benadryl without an order.
Something like this, I would do. But anything bigger than giving a med (like an emergency trach)...nope. Too many people are sue-happy.
We had a group discussion in my class today about a hypothetical scenario and I'm curious to see what some of you on here would do.You have a patient who needs a procedure done that is outside of your scope of practice. They will for certain die if it is not done and nobody who is able to do it is available within the necessary time frame. You know, in theory, how to do the procedure, but you've never done it yourself. Your patients only chance of survival is if you do the procedure. Do you do it?
I've given D50 more times than I can count with no order ...but by "procedure" I am thinking something more along the lines of intubation. I would act if I knew damn sure what I was doing and there was absolutely no hope of anyone more qualified coming along.
Nope. In anaphylaxis, I would call a code. In any potentially life threatening situation, I would call a code or ambulance and the supervisor. I might have the supervisor give meds the patient needs but I have a hard time thinking of a circumstance where a doc would not be present/ emergency services are not available to get direction first.
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We had a group discussion in my class today about a hypothetical scenario and I'm curious to see what some of you on here would do.
You have a patient who needs a procedure done that is outside of your scope of practice. They will for certain die if it is not done and nobody who is able to do it is available within the necessary time frame. You know, in theory, how to do the procedure, but you've never done it yourself. Your patients only chance of survival is if you do the procedure. Do you do it?