Would you hire me back if you were them?

[2klkds]

I posted this on another website and am getting no's and I am really desparate. I already sent off my statement and would be devastated if they it came back denied. Any opinions or help please?

Hello :)

Here is my dilemma, my husband is working two jobs, we have two children, and I am ready to go back to work. I would like to apply at a hospital that I previously worked at before but was discharged from involuntarily. I sent an application and received a rehire review request form in the mail. One of the questions is "Please provide a statement supporting your request for rehire:"

Here is what happened. I worked there about six plus years ago and I had the best job in the world working in pediatrics, I LOVE kids. I thought I was in love and had been going through a bad time in the relationship that I was in, my boyfriend cheated on me and then moved to Florida but he still gave me his phone number, and I was calling him on a calling card from work while I was finishing up my charting. I was warned but did not listen and made the stupidest mistake and was let go. I have regret this decision ever since and now I have an opportunity to hopefully get on at the company.

Here is my statement, would you hire me back?

"To have wisdom is a gift. To have that same wisdom and help others is truly a blessing. I took that for granted and gave up way too easily many years ago. From the time I became a [co.] Medical Explorer all the way through earning my Certified Nursing Assistant status has been a true privelage. I have made many mistakes since that time, but I have also learned from my mistakes and would love the opportunity to show how I can be a great asset to [co.] and a great help to all the patients that I will encounter in my future.

I am now married with two children and more so now than ever understand what responsibility means and just how important life is. I also understand that life is not easy nor fair for anyone and to appreciate each gift that is given to me. The smile on those faces and knowing I will be one of those that helped make everything better will be worth it. I would give anything to have that world back in my life."

[pagandeva2000, LPN]

I would SAY those things if asked, but not place them on paper. In any event, it is too late, it was already sent out. Just out of curiousity, what happened to make them terminate you to begin with?

If I were an administrator, I would consider first what events lead to your termination before I decided to consider interviewing you. There is no guarentee in this world, but all you can do is to try. Best of luck.

[HM2VikingRN, RN]

I think that you may get interviewed but I also think that you need to be prepared for questioning about how you will stay focused on your job. You have to be prepared to sell yourself and part of that is explaining how and why you want to be an asset to the organization.

I would give you a second chance provided that you showed me that you have accepted responsibility for your mistakes and that you are dedicated to putting patients first. (eg I made a charting mistake because I was on the phone. I realize that when I am at work I need to be doing my job and that I should only have taken personal calls on my lunchbreak.)

Have you thought about going back to school for your lpn or RN? I think that what you say you want to do with the rest of your life would benefit from additional training.

Professionalism is the key to helping yourself get where you want to be.

Wishing you the best.

[Rabid Response]

Based only on this statement and your past history with the company, I would not rehire you. The statement was rambling, ungrammatical, and unprofessional in its emphasis on your personal life and needs. It did not seem to be written by a person who would take responsibility for her own actions. Being married and having children is not proof of maturity. In fact, I would not even mention having children since some employers will count it as a strike against you (illegal, but reality).

When you write anything that will be read by a prospective employer, you need to make sure that it is clear, concise, grammatical, and spelled correctly. You should mention positive qualities about yourself (that pertain to WORK) and back up each mention with a concrete example or two.

The next time you have to write something like this, have it reviewed by someone who is not a friend. You were ill-served by the people who told you that this personal statement was acceptable, perhaps because they didn't want to hurt your feelings.

Maybe you will be hired anyway. If they are in dire need of employees, they may disregard or never even read the statement. Good luck.

[sissiesmama, ASN, RN]

To the OP - as someone said earlier, I was a little unclear as to the nature of your termination. This is NOMB but you were let go using your card to make phone calls? Repeatedly? Nothing else? Like I said, NOMB but wasn't sure if there was anything else.

I do understand that you would REALLY like to go back there and show them you are a valuable employee and deserve another chance. It would have been a little better if you had not sent off the statement until after visiting the site.

I wish you luck, but it may not happen. Not bad to keep your options open.

Anne, RNC :paw::paw::paw:

[kharing]

Unfortunately when you are involuntarily dismissed you may not even stand the slightest chance of being rehired....I mean you were terminated for speaking on the phone after being warned...nothing else at all lead up to this decision from the hospital!?

I am thinking the same thing. When you were terminated a decision to rehire/not rehire most likely was documented in you HR file. Wonder if there were other incidents that you are not aware of.

Why not apply at another hospital as well? I would love to hear that you get the job, but you might want to be looking elsewhere.

[RNsRWe, ASN, RN]

Well....no. I'm sorry that you did not run this by us BEFORE sending this letter, as then you would have seen the reactions and had the possibility of changing words, tone, or rephrasing BEFORE you send that in.

It appears to me that you are not happy with the responses you got here, and of course I understand why: it's not unreasonable that you WANT everyone to agree that you should be welcomed back. However, based on your story, here's my reasons (if I were the personnel manager):

1- no one is terminated for having made ONE personal call, been warned, and then made another, resulting in termination. RNs are in just too big a demand (typically) to fire a valued member of the staff over what appears to be really a single incident. There's more to this than you're letting on, and if that's the case, it appears there's something that you're not willing to accept as your responsibility. If you were abusing a privilege to the point of being fired over it, you should have acknowledged that you made a huge error, NOT that "life is sometimes unfair". Life wasn't unfair. You are failing to live up to your part in the termination.

2- Lots of fluffy language does not a good professional letter make. Going on and on about how you want "that world back in your life" is not an interesting or convincing selling point. Management had clear reasons for letting you go in the first place, so you should have addressed them succinctly, not glossed over how much you deserve a second chance. They aren't likely to be interested at ALL in what YOU want.

3-If you are finding that your letter is not received well, and the other hospital did not even return your contact, it should be clear that you are simply not welcome at that/those facilities any longer. That being the case, you ought to redirect your efforts at finding a job at a completely different locale. And remember what you have been told here about presentation.

The point of these members in responding isn't to slam you, or make you feel bad, or whatever. It's to simply lay out the answer to the question you posed; you just don't happen to agree. That's unfortunate, since the answers (primarily) here mirror those you have received from your former employers.

[Music in My Heart]

Well, you already sent the statement so it's moot to a degree. The real question is whether there's more to be done in this matter. There might be.

First, though, I would echo many of the prior posts regarding your statement. To me it also reeks of denial of responsibility and flowery writing that doesn't say much... and even reveals a real lack of insight.

"To have wisdom is a gift. To have that same wisdom and help others is truly a blessing. I took that for granted and gave up way too easily many years ago.

You're seeming to state that you had wisdom. You didn't, though, or you'd have heeded their warning. 'Fess up and take responsibility; don't try to demonstrate your wisdom or skill with prose.

From the time I became a [co.] Medical Explorer all the way through earning my Certified Nursing Assistant status has been a true privelage.

This sentence doesn't really make sense to me.

I have made many mistakes since that time, but I have also learned from my mistakes and would love the opportunity to show how I can be a great asset to [co.] and a great help to all the patients that I will encounter in my future.

Be specific and by all means, don't paint yourself to be worse than you are ("I've made many mistakes..."). Just deal with the facts of your case; don't confess what's not in evidence.

The smile on those faces and knowing I will be one of those that helped make everything better will be worth it.

Nice sentiment but really irrelevant. It's not about whether "(it) will be worth it" to you (and again, I'm not sure what the "it" is to which you're referring), it's about whether it's worth it to them.

I would give anything to have that world back in my life."

You know, I don't think you would give anything. Don't say things like that. They're verbal fluff and are disingenuous.

OK, so there are some specific criticisms of your statement. A bit harsh, I know, but I'm just trying to be honest... and helpful. Your statement's already out; so be it. What now?

Well first off, read and reread the replies here and come up with a concise statement of who you are, what you did, your assessment of that, and how you've changed.

Next, if you really want to work at that place again, your only real chance is through person-to-person contact with a manager. Me, I'd call the person who fired me and try to engage them in a conversation about what happened, take responsibility for what you did, and ask them for another chance.

Truthfully, I wouldn't expect to be rehired. Failure to heed a direct warning from your manager is pretty serious stuff. Unless they're desperate for help, why would they take a chance on having a repeat performance? Hiring and firing is an expensive and time-consuming process, one wrought with liability. My guess is that they made the break and would have no intention of going back.

I know that's not what you want to hear and I really, truly hope I'm wrong. Keep your head up and look around for other alternatives. I've made my share of mistakes in my professional life and some have cost me big time. Keep looking for what's around the next corner. Something's there...

[RNperdiem, RN]

Hopefully you also have a plan B and Plan C for employment elsewhere. If they fired you for good reason, don't count on them taking you back.

[ktwlpn, LPN]

..Still waiting to hear ----Exactly what is a " Medical explorer?" .

[Music in My Heart]

..Still waiting to hear ----Exactly what is a " Medical explorer?" .

If I had to guess I'd say it's a specialty Explorer Scout program just like the Explorer Search and Rescue, Fire Explorers, and the Sea Scouts.

[CT Pixie, BSN, RN]

..Still waiting to hear ----Exactly what is a " Medical explorer?" .

I'm thinking its a volunteer type thing for kids/adolescents interested int he medical field.

[2klkds]

So I just received a phone called from Human Resources telling me that they reviewed the request for rehire submissions today but they needed some more information from me first. The lady was very polite and nice on the phone, she said that the last time it showed I have worked any where was in 2004 and they wanted to know what I have been doing since then. I said my daughter was born August 2004 and then my son was born August 2006 so I have been a stay at home mom. She said she would relay the information to the reviewers and when they review in two more weeks they will go over it again.

So what do you think, good or bad news?

Do you think that if my submission was bad that they would not even have asked that question or do you think it matters?

I am hoping and praying!!! :bowingpur