We are seeing a few threads on working and studying in the UK for a BSc (Hons) in Health and Social Care at the Anglia Ruskin University or something similar.
Going this route will not enable you to stay in the UK once you have finished. There are no shortage of carers in the UK and even if you are lucky to get a student visa to the UK you will not find a employer willing to assist you to work as a RN as most if not all NHS trusts state they will not assist in work permit unless the job is on the shortage occupation list. Current guidelines for working in the UK is under review and expected to change in November 2008 to a point system and you must pass an English exam although exceptions if you are from a majority English speaking country. Plus EU requirements are employ own citizen first then EU before anywhere else in the world. If you are caught working illegally in the UK there are consequences for you and also fines for the employer. Student visa requires that you can prove you can support yourself and any dependants that come with your and not rely on the state and not work. Please be aware there are scams around and if any doubt what so ever please contact the British embassy in your country and ask them.
Thankyou Hushdawg that's some very good advice there
Mishi88nit is important to look at what is needed for each country, and there is no point in getting angry with people who give you information you don't like, it doesn't change the fact it is becoming more and more difficult to work overseas, no matter where you originate from
Hushdawg, I am not so sure that the UK is a good option for carers, as it is not on the shortage occupation list, and the government is really clamping down on student visas. We no have a record number of UK citizens out of work so it is going to become more and more difficult to get unskilled work such as a unqualified care worker.
Im planning on going to UK to work and study via agency. I would like to know if its better to enroll directly from a school than getting an agency here in the philippines for them to fix my applications and other requirements.
Im planning on directly enrolling to a school to save money. Do you guys have a good suggestion on what school should i enroll to? I have IELTS overall score of 7.5 but my individual score is not all 7. I have 1 subject that has 7 below score. Also, what position should i apply to work while studying.
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Im planning on going to UK to work and study via agency. I would like to know if its better to enroll directly from a school than getting an agency here in the philippines for them to fix my applications and other requirements.
Im planning on directly enrolling to a school to save money. Do you guys have a good suggestion on what school should i enroll to? I have IELTS overall score of 7.5 but my individual score is not all 7. I have 1 subject that has 7 below score. Also, what position should i apply to work while studying.
Thanks!
You are aware that working is restricted on a student visa and will not count towards RN experience? What sort of student are you looking at?
Thankyou Hushdawg that's some very good advice there
You're welcome
Hushdawg, I am not so sure that the UK is a good option for carers, as it is not on the shortage occupation list, and the government is really clamping down on student visas. We no have a record number of UK citizens out of work so it is going to become more and more difficult to get unskilled work such as a unqualified care worker.
UNQUALIFIED - YES you are 100% right
However if someone is a BS nursing graduate there are avenues to enter on a student visa to complete a master's degree and then work as a caregiver or (depending on experience) even as a nurse in a hospital. Obviously not every nurse will qualify but it is an avenue that some are finding very appealing during retrogression. It's a benefit to UK because it allows skilled persons to come in and fill gaps while leaving unskilled positions open for citizens.
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you're welcome
unqualified - yes you are 100% right
however if someone is a bs nursing graduate there are avenues to enter on a student visa to complete a master's degree and then work as a caregiver or (depending on experience) even as a nurse in a hospital. obviously not every nurse will qualify but it is an avenue that some are finding very appealing during retrogression. it's a benefit to uk because it allows skilled persons to come in and fill gaps while leaving unskilled positions open for citizens.
but skilled people should be coming into the country to work in skilled areas not skilled workers working in unskilled areas. currently one of my friends who has all sorts of qualifications and was a nurse is unable to find a job and she has applied to over 100 and that was in a couple of weeks so probably has applied for a lot more. she was a nurse (enrolled nurse) but her registration has lapsed and jobs for enrolled nurses are very hard to come by as they haven't been trained since the late 1980's, she worked as a medical rep for over 10 years and recently trained in health and safety and she has applied for what ever jobs she can including care worker, so why should someone come over and work while a student when many many uk citizens are loosing jobs and struggling to find work
current unemployment stats for the uk and i can't remember last seeing it this bad
the employment rate and the number of people in employment have fallen. the number of unemployed people, the unemployment rate and the claimant count have all increased. the number of vacancies has fallen. the number of inactive people of working age and the inactivity rate have increased. growth in average earnings, excluding bonuses, has fallen but earnings growth including bonuses has increased.
the employment rate for people of working age was 72.9 per cent for the three months to may 2009, down 0.9 from the previous quarter and down 2.0 over the year. this is the largest quarterly fall in the working age employment rate since comparable records began in 1971. the total number of people in employment for the three months to may 2009 was just under 29 million, down 269,000 over the quarter and down 543,000 over the year.
Ok here's the scenario for some Filipino nurses here in the Philippines and why they prefer to go in UK under a student visa. Normally a Staff nurse here working 8 hours a day with the sum up of 40 hours per week . If you work on a private hospital you are being paid of 8000 pesos or only $160 for one month less 20% for taxes, insurance etc .If you want to work on a public hospital you will get 15000 or $300 dollars less tax and insurance but you have to handle 60 patients.Can you get the picture. If you family you cant survive in 160 dollars. Some of my friends are now in UK and they save almost 100,000 pesos monthly. and enbale to send money to support her family. Maybe some didnt understand but this is really what is happening. I am just stating a fact and I am not angry to Suzanne. I just want suggestion for other nurses who really need options in order to survive. As for me, I am not in hurry to go abroad.
Its a pity there's so many bad experiences emerging from the UK. Many UK nurses are taking working holidays in Australia....and if you know the pathways you will find Bridging Courses as low as $A1,100 . Of course you must have a good IELTS score, and at least 12 months paid work experience as an RN. After that, well, the world just maybe your oyster !
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Ok here's the scenario for some Filipino nurses here in the Philippines and why they prefer to go in UK under a student visa. Normally a Staff nurse here working 8 hours a day with the sum up of 40 hours per week . If you work on a private hospital you are being paid of 8000 pesos or only $160 for one month less 20% for taxes, insurance etc .If you want to work on a public hospital you will get 15000 or $300 dollars less tax and insurance but you have to handle 60 patients.Can you get the picture. If you family you cant survive in 160 dollars. Some of my friends are now in UK and they save almost 100,000 pesos monthly. and enbale to send money to support her family. Maybe some didnt understand but this is really what is happening. I am just stating a fact and I am not angry to Suzanne. I just want suggestion for other nurses who really need options in order to survive. As for me, I am not in hurry to go abroad.
That gives way to money making schemes and abuse. I do know how much money was sent by my collegues, there were and worked as RN's though! But this is still no reason to go this way, there are allways alternatives. Plus most of those schemes if not all ask for money first, where do people get that money?
That gives way to money making schemes and abuse. I do know how much money was sent by my collegues, there were and worked as RN's though! But this is still no reason to go this way, there are allways alternatives. Plus most of those schemes if not all ask for money first, where do people get that money?
I wouldn't call it a "scheme" exactly. The consultation services that I know of here are very transparent with the nurse about exactly what is going to happen.
The money comes from a cooperative effort of the entire family to send a single person overseas. Generations of this sort of method have proven to the Filipino that the benefits greatly outweigh the cost.
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What about those of us who might just want a little change of scenery while training to become nurses? Would the UK admissions/immigration be as hostile to those of us who have definite plans of going back to our hometowns (or at least home countries) to practice?
What about those of us who might just want a little change of scenery while training to become nurses? Would the UK admissions/immigration be as hostile to those of us who have definite plans of going back to our hometowns (or at least home countries) to practice?
It's not about being hostile, the fact is there there are not enough jobs in the UK for UK citizens with unemployment at a record high, we have to employ our own countrymen first therefore unless you meet the criteria for a work permit your not going to be able to work. So even if you want a change of scenery, your not going to get work.
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Thankyou Hushdawg that's some very good advice there
Mishi88nit is important to look at what is needed for each country, and there is no point in getting angry with people who give you information you don't like, it doesn't change the fact it is becoming more and more difficult to work overseas, no matter where you originate from
Hushdawg, I am not so sure that the UK is a good option for carers, as it is not on the shortage occupation list, and the government is really clamping down on student visas. We no have a record number of UK citizens out of work so it is going to become more and more difficult to get unskilled work such as a unqualified care worker.