We are seeing a few threads on working and studying in the UK for a BSc (Hons) in Health and Social Care at the Anglia Ruskin University or something similar.
Going this route will not enable you to stay in the UK once you have finished. There are no shortage of carers in the UK and even if you are lucky to get a student visa to the UK you will not find a employer willing to assist you to work as a RN as most if not all NHS trusts state they will not assist in work permit unless the job is on the shortage occupation list. Current guidelines for working in the UK is under review and expected to change in November 2008 to a point system and you must pass an English exam although exceptions if you are from a majority English speaking country. Plus EU requirements are employ own citizen first then EU before anywhere else in the world. If you are caught working illegally in the UK there are consequences for you and also fines for the employer. Student visa requires that you can prove you can support yourself and any dependants that come with your and not rely on the state and not work. Please be aware there are scams around and if any doubt what so ever please contact the British embassy in your country and ask them.
Unless hiring changes happen in the UK a Philippine nurse will only be able to work as a caregiver in the UK. Good news is that caregivers make good money in the UK!
I talked to a British expat here in the Philippines who has a staffing firm and handles nurse program graduates who want to become caregivers. This is actually an EXCELLENT route for nursing program graduates who did NOT pass the local board or Local Board passers who fail NCLEX and are closed off to the USA route.
Keep your options open and be flexible. If you want to become a USRN then don't give up, but if you fail NCLEX then maybe you should look at other options since statistically speaking you only have a 25% chance of passing NCLEX the second time as a foreign nurse.
Australia and New Zealand are also good options and don't discount the possibilities in Saudi Arabia and Dubai. Options are available for Philippine nurses as long as you LOOK for them!
Best of luck to all my beloved Pinoy nurses.
You will not be able to work as a carer in the UK as it is not listed as a shortage occupation therefore no work Visa will be issued to non EU citizens.
Carers do not make good money in the UK, most of them are living only just above the poverty line on minimum wage, and taking into account the extremely high cost of living that we have in the UK at the moment, and the fact that we now have a record number of UK citizens that are un-employed the chances of a non-UK or EU citizen gaining employment is extremely low.
Specializes in intensive care, recovery, anesthetics.
Unless hiring changes happen in the UK a Philippine nurse will only be able to work as a caregiver in the UK. Good news is that caregivers make good money in the UK!
I talked to a British expat here in the Philippines who has a staffing firm and handles nurse program graduates who want to become caregivers. This is actually an EXCELLENT route for nursing program graduates who did NOT pass the local board or Local Board passers who fail NCLEX and are closed off to the USA route.
This post REALLY makes me mad!!
Before you post sth like this I would appreciate if you would do some research, instead of blindly believing someone, who owns a company and makes good money hiring people from overseas for minimal paid jobs.
Caregivers don't make good money, nurses when they start their career don't make good money here.
And caregiving is NOT a good route for nurses who want to stay in their job and/or consider of nursing again in the future! It's much better to study and pass the NLE and keep the options open!
Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC.
On average you are looking at approx £12000 (may or may not add out of hour differential if allocated) annually for a health care worker from that there is tax and National insurance and maybe a private pension. This is taken out before you get it. Then you have normal bills Gas and electric, council tax, food bills, clothing bills, TV license, If you have a car there is petrol, car insurance and car tax. Over all it will be hard to maintain a basic standard of living.
Before you post sth like this I would appreciate if you would do some research, instead of blindly believing someone, who owns a company and makes good money hiring people from overseas for minimal paid jobs.
Caregivers don't make good money, nurses when they start their career don't make good money here.
My apologies, but I did not just blindly take his word, I talked to other former nurse candidates who took his route because of the conditions I outlined above. These caregivers are Filipinos who moved to the UK and have worked there for a few years. They all said that the wages were good and that they did not feel a pinch economically.
Perhaps the perception is different for a Pinoy than for a native of the UK regarding what is good or bad wages?
That I did not take into account.
My intention was NOT to upset anyone but rather to give an option to nurse candidates who never pass the local board or who fail NCLEX and need to look for a route other than being a USRN.
And caregiving is NOT a good route for nurses who want to stay in their job and/or consider of nursing again in the future! It's much better to study and pass the NLE and keep the options open!
I totally agree with you. If you work as a caregiver then you are, in fact, closing off lots of options with nursing.
But I gave conditions too.
If you fail the NLE here in the Philippines then statistically speaking you should stop retaking after the 2nd or 3rd try. There are also limitations now in place for how many attempts you can make.
If you fail NCLEX once then statistically you only have a 25% chance of passing the second time, an 8% chance of passing the third time.
SO if a nurse or nurse candidate fits into one of these two categories he or she REALLY needs to start looking at other options.
My best suggestion would be for a non-NCLEX passer to look into New Zealand or Australia but a non NLE passer's best bet is to take up caregiving since he or she will be in a much better economic position than staying here in the Philippines and working in a call center which a majority of them end up with.
That being said, when someone is looking at going into caregiving then he or she should make sure that income and cost of living explanations given to them by the recruiter or staffer are accurate and this forum is a great opportunity for that. The salary should be in the contract and not left to chance. There are a few good staffing firms and a lot of rotten ones. That is a fact.
I'm sorry if my explanation was lacking before and I'm sincerely sorry that anything I said upset anyone.
Specializes in intensive care, recovery, anesthetics.
Apology accepted:)
Don't understand why those filipinos were saying the wages were good, once you live here perception is very similar, at least me and my filipino collegues are thinking the same, and I know how much some of them are struggling and working to meet the demands of their families in the Philippines.
Thank you. My goal after all, my job, is to help nurses achieve professional and personal goals without losing money, time or dignity. I would never want to suggest a course of action which violates any of those three.
Don't understand why those Filipinos were saying the wages were good, once you live here perception is very similar, at least me and my Filipino colleagues are thinking the same, and I know how much some of them are struggling and working to meet the demands of their families in the Philippines.
I don't know either, but your misgivings have certainly inspired me to ask more pointed and precise questions.
It could be (supposition here) that the particular contracts this gentleman has are placing nursing course graduates in better than average positions or he is securing positions in care giving institutions which naturally pay higher than a standard caregiver position. I don't know.. but I intend to find out now that you've raised the contention to claim.
Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC.
I don't know either, but your misgivings have certainly inspired me to ask more pointed and precise questions.
It could be (supposition here) that the particular contracts this gentleman has are placing nursing course graduates in better than average positions or he is securing positions in care giving institutions which naturally pay higher than a standard caregiver position. I don't know.. but I intend to find out now that you've raised the contention to claim.
Carers generally are paid less in the private sector than if working for the NHS. If private hospital then probably more on par with the NHS but nursing homes will in most cases pay less
The approved list of colleges for sponsoring UK student visas has shrunk by more than 13,000, following a crackdown against bogus colleges.
There had been about 15,000 public and private educational institutions on the government's register.
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The stricter rules for the new register are intended to stop "dodgy colleges", says the UK Border Agency.
This move will make it more difficult for colleges to register and accept students from outside of the EU
olleges which want to recruit students from overseas now face a much tougher inspection and accreditation process - and overseas students face greater controls, including the need for a biometric identity card.
The list of registered colleges, previously held by the Department for Innovation, Universities and Skills, is now run by the UK Border Agency - and colleges have had to re-apply to be on the new approved list.
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What's the IELTS requirement for studying in the UK?
They look at credentials and evaluate the incoming student for placement in categories. They want to make sure that nurse students will be able to understand and maximize the education being given in English.
Also, a nurse student will have clinicals and limited work placement (for lack of a better term) while studying and therefore must be able to communicate in a hospital setting.
Since you almost know anything about any country miss Suzanne? What do you suggest For Filipinos like us who do not have any job because nursing is the career we have chosen?
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You will not be able to work as a carer in the UK as it is not listed as a shortage occupation therefore no work Visa will be issued to non EU citizens.
Carers do not make good money in the UK, most of them are living only just above the poverty line on minimum wage, and taking into account the extremely high cost of living that we have in the UK at the moment, and the fact that we now have a record number of UK citizens that are un-employed the chances of a non-UK or EU citizen gaining employment is extremely low.