We are seeing a few threads on working and studying in the UK for a BSc (Hons) in Health and Social Care at the Anglia Ruskin University or something similar.
Going this route will not enable you to stay in the UK once you have finished. There are no shortage of carers in the UK and even if you are lucky to get a student visa to the UK you will not find a employer willing to assist you to work as a RN as most if not all NHS trusts state they will not assist in work permit unless the job is on the shortage occupation list. Current guidelines for working in the UK is under review and expected to change in November 2008 to a point system and you must pass an English exam although exceptions if you are from a majority English speaking country. Plus EU requirements are employ own citizen first then EU before anywhere else in the world. If you are caught working illegally in the UK there are consequences for you and also fines for the employer. Student visa requires that you can prove you can support yourself and any dependants that come with your and not rely on the state and not work. Please be aware there are scams around and if any doubt what so ever please contact the British embassy in your country and ask them.
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It's not about being hostile, the fact is there there are not enough jobs in the UK for UK citizens with unemployment at a record high, we have to employ our own countrymen first therefore unless you meet the criteria for a work permit your not going to be able to work. So even if you want a change of scenery, your not going to get work.
sorry, i think my post was completely misread. my point was that we only want an education in a different part of the world. then, we want to come back home to the good ol' usa.
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sorry, i think my post was completely misread. my point was that we only want an education in a different part of the world. then, we want to come back home to the good ol' usa.
Unfortunately that isn't what we are seeing here but people asking how easy is it to move across stay and work as a nurse. It is being used as a type of short cut and skip immigration requirements. Plus many are not from the good ol' USA
I can understand people wanting to further educate themselves but I can't understand why people with a BSN want to do a NVQ course (that is lower than a BSN) that hasn't any real education value outside the UK. Also the UK is suffering like the USA with high unemployment so really UK citizens or legal residents should come first and there are plenty of UK students graduating from nursing school struggling to find work
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so, why are they still recruiting foreign caregivers? they could just send them home after their contracts expire and hire the new UK grads, then... :loveya:
also, i should probably stop using "we" and change it to saying "i" -- as in I just want to try a different place to study for a while and then come back home is that clearer? :loveya:
so, why are they still recruiting foreign caregivers? they could just send them home after their contracts expire and hire the new UK grads, then... :loveya:
also, i should probably stop using "we" and change it to saying "i" -- as in I just want to try a different place to study for a while and then come back home is that clearer? :loveya:
They are not recruiting foreign caregivers, these nurses are coming over on educational programs and working the limited 20 hours per week that is permitted under a student visa, any more than that they are breaking the law. So it wouldn't be appropriate to hire UK grads into non qualified positions.
I understand that you want to experience different cultures and study in a different country, so maybe one of these courses would be appropriate for you, but they would not give you a nursing qualification. I think I put some links up in your other post about nurse training in the UK which may be of use (or may not )
It may also be worth looking at maybe including an "elective" into your US nurse training so that maybe you could come over to the UK as a student and work alongside UK student nurses although I am not sure how easy, or possible this is to do. Again you would need to contact the university and make sure your nursing school would allow it as well
If you are a nurse in the USA, I believe you can register with UK Nursing Midwifery Council. You can then work here in UK as a nurse. Anyway, you can check the website of NMC to get the details.
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If you are a nurse in the USA, I believe you can register with UK Nursing Midwifery Council. You can then work here in UK as a nurse. Anyway, you can check the website of NMC to get the details.
Even if you get registered with the NMC you still have to get sorted with a work permit and if not from the EU or have experience in the shortage occupation list will find it very hard regardless if from the US or elsewhere
I am a nurse from the Philippines who is now in the UK enrolled at the NVQ in Health & Social Care program. I read the pros and cons but everything really depends on the individual. My reason for coming is because I cannot get any nusing job in the Philippines and the only one available are the call cneter jobs which requires
I am a nurse in the Philippines who is now here in the UK enrolled in the NVQ in Health & Social Care program. The reason for this is because I couldn't get any nursing job or any good paying job in the Philippines. The only one available for me was being a call center agent which requires me to work in the evenings with a salary of PHP18,000 a month( approximately UKPounds 230 a month) already a good salary by Philippine standard. With a family, I simply cannot work all evenings. Then I learned about this learn and earn in the UK. Lucky for me, my parents supported me in paying for my package cost of PHP160,000 ( this was last year 2008. My agent's package has already increased to PHP248K starting 2009 because it is now required by the UK government that at least the first year tuition fee should be fully paid before applying for the visa) as well as show money of PHP600k.
I share a flat with fellow Filipino nurses doing NVQ like me. My rent is GBP100 a month .
I am writing this to give everyone a first hand experience. May this somehow help those reading this forum make the right decision.
Can you give us a breakdown of approximately how many hours of classes you have per week plus clinical hours? Also, what kind of hours are you working when classes are not in session?
Would you mind sharing the name of the consultancy group or immigration agency that assisted with your visa and student status?
As an NVQ in Health & Social Care student, we are allowed to work 40 hours a week this is because, as explained to us, NVQ is work related. We are being assessed in accordance with our work performance. An assessor comes to our work place. We are also given exams base on case studies, which we answer at home.
Expect the worst so that you will not be dissapointed.
Your final comment, I think is also very telling, "expect the worst so you will not be disappointed" I am not sure this is encouraging to others who have enrolled on the course, I'd be very worried if I were undertaking a program of study to be told by someone doing that course to expect the worst
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sorry, i think my post was completely misread. my point was that we only want an education in a different part of the world. then, we want to come back home to the good ol' usa.