I've been currently working at a LTC facility since mid-January 2016. We are quite short-staffed. My boyfriend and I are wanting to go to Cancun in July. I plan on putting in my vacation request this week. My facility has been known to be stingy on accepting time-off requests... and I'm kind of worried. What if I've already paid for my vacation, and they decline my request?
Don't "request" the vacation. Simply state (in an email) that you are going on a trip to Cancun and cannot work that week. If they bring up some BS about not being able to give time off, just reply with this: "Unfortunately this is a problem. I will not be available to work that week."
If they reply with anything other than acceptance of your leave, then say "Are you trying to interfere with my vacation to Cancun?"
Just stay on the offense and make them feel as uncomfortable as possible. Suggest that they are trying to sabotage your relationship with your boyfriend.
Don't "request" the vacation. Simply state (in an email) that you are going on a trip to Cancun and cannot work that week. If they bring up some BS about not being able to give time off, just reply with this: "Unfortunately this is a problem. I will not be available to work that week."
If they reply with anything other than acceptance of your leave, then say "Are you trying to interfere with my vacation to Cancun?"
Just stay on the offense and make them feel as uncomfortable as possible. Suggest that they are trying to sabotage your relationship with your boyfriend.
Terrible advice, as usual. Thanks for being consistent, at least.
If they reply with anything other than acceptance of your leave, then say "Are you trying to interfere with my vacation to Cancun?"
Just stay on the offense and make them feel as uncomfortable as possible. Suggest that they are trying to sabotage your relationship with your boyfriend.
I must admit that it's a bit of a mystery to me how you manage to remain employed RNdynamic, since your advice on how to deal with your employer quite consistently is the opposite of what most would call a wise move. Accusing your employer of trying to ruin your relationship with one's boyfriend would make a person sound like a twelve-year-old. And not a very mature one at that. Are you deliberately giving posters crappy advice? Or is it you having a laugh?
OP as I'm sure you've figured out by yourself, attempting to emotionally blackmail/guilt-trip an employer likely isn't a successful strategy.
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Don't "request" the vacation. Simply state (in an email) that you are going on a trip to Cancun and cannot work that week. If they bring up some BS about not being able to give time off, just reply with this: "Unfortunately this is a problem. I will not be available to work that week."
If they reply with anything other than acceptance of your leave, then say "Are you trying to interfere with my vacation to Cancun?"
Just stay on the offense and make them feel as uncomfortable as possible. Suggest that they are trying to sabotage your relationship with your boyfriend.
Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
Unless someone else has this time off already, how is 3 months in advance considered a "late" request?
Most places have deadlines about submissions for "prime time" vacation requests. April is pretty late to be submitting a prime time request, plus it's early in the OP's employment.
You could call off sick or with some problem. This is not recommended.
If you have already made your request or have been talking freely to people at work about your vacation, then you can expect negative repurcussions if you do call off sick or with some "emergency". Be prepared to provide proof - doctor's statement, receipts.
I learned never to ask if I needed off for a son or dtr's wedding or graduation or some other truly once-in-a-lifetime event. And I learned not to tell my business at work.
Also, a lot of things we think are must-have's turn out not to be.
Any arrangements you make when hiring on need to be in writing with the signature of whichever boss agreed to let you off on a certain day/week.
Never commit to a vacation until you have written authorization for the time off, not just a verbal OK! I would be very surprised if you got the time off in the summer being new and with many others with seniority wanting the same time off. If you pay money for a vacation and then don't get the time off, that's on you for failing to plan ahead by getting approval first.
She's new, she didn't know, apparently. Now she knows the hard reality.
OP - you could try selling the vacation if it turns out you can't use it.
Let me share my experience I had when it came to a vacation request for it changed my life.*
I worked 14 years at the same hospital. I had perfect attendance, never called in, not once. I did leave early one day when I got a phone call from a school nurse and had to pick up my injured son many years back.*
I worked ICU with maxed out sick time "450hrs" and maxed out vacation time "250hrs." I would lose money every week I went to work , it was like blowing away in the wind.*
I put in a 2 week vacation request 5 month in advance and the new ICU unit Manager making a name for herself, let's call her. Miss Queenbee. Well Miss Queenbee told me, "No" the moment I put the vacation request in her hand. She stating the hospital plans on opening a open heart unit that month in the ICU and no vacations where being given for the 2 summer month. This did not happen.*
This was not acceptable to me, but I was prepared because I already made out my termination of employment notice to start on the same date preparing for this very answer.* I went to my locker grabbed it and handed this to her 5 minutes later and discussed the content of the letter in her office.*
Three weeks later I received a hand written unsigned note in my locker, stating my vacation request was approved, but it was unsigned. This was strange, and rightly so for when the month came I was to go on vacation I was still on the master schedule to work. I confronted Miss Queenbee and she said; "don't pay attention to that, I don't want the other nurses to know you have off." I didn't trust her, but ok, what was I to do? The last working day before my vacation I brought in a cake worked and said my goodbyes to my co-workers and end of shift.* I was going on vacation.*
While on vacation the following week and out of state I was called by the charge nurse and asked; "When will I be in? Your 30 minutes late." I informed the charge nurse I was on vacation and out of state. I was written up as a "NoShow." I didn't pick up any more phone calls from the hospital and had a great vacation, seminar and family event. *
When I came back and went to work my badge didn't open the door, then in the unit I found out I was crossed off the master schedule and told I was fired for having 6 shifts of no shows. *
The following morning I went to HR and calmly gave a copy of the Notice of my employment*termination I submitted five months earlier to Miss Queenbee along with the unsigned note put in my locker. They didn't take this seriously until I shared I had another thing in my possession, a recorded 2 minute conversation with Miss Queenbee on my cell phone when I handed in my termination of employment 5 month back and played it. I stated I would be seeking legal counsel and walked out.*
I was called the following day by the CNO and told; Miss Queenbee was dismissed and no longer worked for this company and if I wanted my job It was their for me. I thanked her but kindly decline to come back to a working relationship with this for profit company. The same day I went to the University where I attained my BSN and was welcome with open arms as a alumni to*continue my education and I started in 2 days the MSN-FNP program. *
A week later I received my vacation pay and more amazing was the 450 hours of sick time pay which had no cash value, but was paid it.* I was very happy and did not seek council.*
I was now in a MSN-FNP program at the University and went into Travel Nursing working in state while In school and clinicals. Today I am no longer at the bed side. At times I miss it but then I think of Miss Queenbee and that feeling goes away real quick.*
Hope my experience empowers you to always cover yourself and be prepared.* The CNO 'Chief Nursing Officer' this same person years earlier made a statement I'll never forget to a group of us nurses on a another unrelated issue. She said; "Nurses are nothing more then part of the room charge."* I never forgot that, never! And don't you or any other nurse working in a hospital. If a nurse doesn't believe that Statement, I would have to say; "they are delusional, for I lived it." **
I don't know if it was legal for you to secretly tape Nurse Queenbee, but that was a great story.
I must admit that it's a bit of a mystery to me how you manage to remain employed RNdynamic, since your advice on how to deal with your employer quite consistently is the opposite of what most would call a wise move. Accusing your employer of trying to ruin your relationship with one's boyfriend would make a person sound like a twelve-year-old. And not a very mature one at that. Are you deliberately giving posters crappy advice? Or is it you having a laugh?
OP as I'm sure you've figured out by yourself, attempting to emotionally blackmail/guilt-trip an employer likely isn't a successful strategy.
I've successfully pressured my manager into giving me time off for something when it would leave a gap in the schedule by making the manager feel uncomfortable and awkward by suggesting that she was interfering with my life. "I want to make it clear that while you are my manager, you cannot interfere with my personal life or career goals." This will put them on the defensive.
OP: you can also go to the HR director and state to them that your manager is trying to make you work when you won't even be in the country. Make her look as unreasonable as possible. Eventually she'll realize that she'd wish she just gave you the time off.
Specializes in LTC,Hospice/palliative care,acute care.
Hi everyone,
I've been currently working at a LTC facility since mid-January 2016. We are quite short-staffed. My boyfriend and I are wanting to go to Cancun in July. I plan on putting in my vacation request this week. My facility has been known to be stingy on accepting time-off requests... and I'm kind of worried. What if I've already paid for my vacation, and they decline my request?
Has anyone have any experience on this? Thanks!
When accepting a new position you have to think ahead.If you have made the plans for a vacation,wedding,etc make it clear you can not work during that time and GET WRITTEN CONFIRMATION .
You are likely working with staff who have been there for many years,they have seniority over you.I have worked with nurses who get those s requests in on Jan.1 and essentially take out JUne,July and August for everyone else.We have a new policy to address that now.Everyone is entitled to one week during those months
You've only been there 4 months and expect a short staffed facility to grant a vacation 6 months after you started? Many companies you are expected to work 12 months full time to be eligible to request vacation. You are also asking with relatively short notice
I think that you are ridiculous. 6 months is quite a long time to be working without a vacation. I can't imagine anyone sane arguing against that.
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Don't "request" the vacation. Simply state (in an email) that you are going on a trip to Cancun and cannot work that week. If they bring up some BS about not being able to give time off, just reply with this: "Unfortunately this is a problem. I will not be available to work that week."
If they reply with anything other than acceptance of your leave, then say "Are you trying to interfere with my vacation to Cancun?"
Just stay on the offense and make them feel as uncomfortable as possible. Suggest that they are trying to sabotage your relationship with your boyfriend.