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Of how many people get A's in prereqs but dont do that good in the nursing program and the B students are the ones that do better in the program. Dont work youself if you cant get that A.

I think the message here is work smarter not harder and not burn yourself out before you even start. Makes sense to me :)

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There is a saying I have heard since day 1...."C is for Continue.."

Also, Straight A's in nursing school won't help if you can't pass the NCLEX. Those that don't pass the NCLEX are not called nurse....just saying.

Nursing schools and advanced nursing programs look at more than your grades. That's why most have a point system. They look at your refereces, not only what they say about you but who they are from (their position, relation to you, their standing in the community etc). They look at your work record, what your instructors say about you. Your essay counts a great deal as well. Patient care is about much more than memorizing what to do when (although that can be important). It's just as important to know how to communicate with others whether it is with your patient, coworkers, physicians, charge nurses, ancillary staff, family, etc. You have to know what resources you have available. Nursing isn't just about what you make in class. Truly, you have to be knowledgeable, but knowledge without application makes you ineffective.

I agree with you 100%

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If your grammar is so bad to the point that people can't understand your documentation, it could be a very big problem, indeed.

I understand that. But this is not English class. And as you see some people understood what i said because they responded to the post!

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I think the message here is work smarter not harder and not burn yourself out before you even start. Makes sense to me :)

Carley.....my girl....you got the message ;)

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Aug 12 by Chelsea13 I'm usually not a hater on these boards... but the english usage and grammar here is so horrendous in the post that I have no idea what the message is here....

You mean "English," right?

Haha...lol

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I understand that. But this is not English class. And as you see some people understood what i said because they responded to the post!

Well, work on it please, because I have to tell you, even as a CNA reading poorly written documentation is frustrating and time consuming, and does lead to misunderstandings. Not to mention the CNA with the bachelor's degree in another field will be muttering under her breath that she can't believe these people outrank her..... :eek: (Ask me how I know. ;))

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Specializes in Hospice.
My motto is "C equals a degree". Lol

I'm saving that saying...... I hope I won't have to use it. But I may end up proudly proclaiming it at my graduation. :yes:

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People do make mistakes with grammar, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't care or shouldn't try to use proper grammar. Especially on a forum like this one, where the only method of communication is written, others tend to take you more seriously if you make an effort to keep posts and comments as well written as possible. Some will disagree with me, I realize, but I am one of those who cringe at the sense of "who cares, it's the Internet" when it comes to language.

Accurate communication is vital - not just in nursing- but in all aspects of our lives. That being said, I also enjoy it when people communicate with creativity.

One of my frustrations is a lack of visual hierarchy and distinction - particularly with printed materials.

When I see a long document with no use of paragraphs, it is like listened to someone giving a long speech in monotone.

It makes it difficult to 'pull out' the important points, or to distinguish them so I can effectively understand them.

Another frustration is when I am trying to learn off of an instruction guide - such as the one I am currently struggling with for our new EMR system. It has lots of colors and lots of graphics symbols that are intended to tell you how important this particular item is. But when there are too many on a page, it is like being in a meeting with a group of people who all may have important information, but since everyone is shouting it out at the same time, it is just about useless.

And then there are the bubble diagram/flow charts that may have been legible on the computer screen of the person who created it, but when printed out on an 8x10 piece of paper with black print inside of fairly dark colored backgrounds, are so hard to read that I have to give up or go crazy.

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Specializes in Psych/Mental Health.

Aside from poor writing, the OP suffers from fuzzy logic. "What I have seen" is called anecdotal evidence, which is unreliable and unscientific. On the other hand, it has been well-researched that higher prior GPA generally leads to higher current GPA. Are there exceptions? Of course.

Sure, don't beat yourself up if you got B's in pre-reqs because you can still do well in nursing school. But to say not to beat yourself up for getting B's in pre-reqs because A's students do worse in nursing course is plain wrong.

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This thread could be construed as misleading due to a number of reasons. First is that one could walk away correlating grades with material comprehension and superior nursing practice, when in fact that isn't always the case.

While it's accurate to say that you may not maintain the GPA you had prior to nursing school once you're in, it's faulty to conclude that you don't need to work as hard because "C = degree". If anything, more difficult coursework should be an impetus to work harder to master the new information.

The underlying wisdom of "C = degree" speaks to the fact that many nurses struggle to obtain good grades in school due to the testing style and the massive amounts of new content, but that doesn't make them bad nurses.

Conversely, just because someone understands the material and tests well doesn't mean that they are applying it to nursing practice. You can have great grasp of the theory and yet lack the practical interpersonal skills that make a good nurse.

I knew a student nurse like that once. She was the valedictorian of our class, but she couldn't figure out how to ask for help to get her patient off the commode. It was a serious lack in common sense combined with an overdose of pride that was ultimately her downfall. She was destined for an upper management job--preferably before she killed someone on the floor.

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Everyone has their own learning style and sometimes professors do not apply all 3 (kinesthetic, visual, & auditory) into their teaching practice. Someone who is kinesthetic is going to do better in a tactile setting than in a lecture setting, and an example would be nursing clinical. A class with tons of PowerPoints, color-coded notes, and charts is going to benefit the visual learner. A class where the professor explains everything in detail and uses podcasts is going to benefit the auditory learner.

Maybe the people who made A's in their prerequisites were more auditory and did well at memorization/note-taking. Maybe the B students were more kinesthetic and their professor did not apply that style in class and they did not know how to study. Labs are tactile and I personally do better in labs than lectures because I am being involved in the learning.

Some people do not know their style and have difficulties studying. When people know their style and change their study habits, they can improve grades and actually begin to learn! So if a professor teaches towards auditory learners, it is still the student's responsibility to learn that material utilizing their style in their study habits.

So yes, I think it is possible for someone with B's in prerequisites to begin making A's in nursing school. Especially if their particular learning style is being applied. Ex: kinesthetic student in a nursing clinical

Does it really matter that B students might make A's in nursing school or that A students might make B's in nursing school. Not really...who cares! It's not a contest and we are all there to become the same thing...a nurse.

I like this saying:

Tell me, I'll forget. Show me, I'll remember. Involve me, I'll understand. Chinese Proverb

Just a thought:)

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Well, work on it please, because I have to tell you, even as a CNA reading poorly written documentation is frustrating and time consuming, and does lead to misunderstandings. Not to mention the CNA with the bachelor's degree in another field will be muttering under her breath that she can't believe these people outrank her..... :eek: (Ask me how I know. ;))

i know how to write English. You are acting like i dont how to write. Like I said this is an app, its not ENGLISH CLASS, so i can write how i please, im not getting a grade here. And i said some people on here got what i said, so it couldnt have been that bad. Dont underestimate me just off what you are reading!

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