Will somebody PLEASE tell these doctors....

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1. That we are not their secretaries? and that they are just as able to pull up their own computer rounding list as we are?

2. That no, I CANNOT explain the risks and benefits of a surgical procedure, and NO, I do not consider it my responsibility to "remind" you to get consent on the day of the procedure. I can only witness the INFORMED consenting patient's signature.

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Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis.

WOAAAAH now, hold your horses. Let us NOT make this a female versus male debate here.

I see people venting here, simple as that. And most of us Do tell the doctors these things, at least I know I do. Often, professional collegues "bounce things off " each other as needed. Others tend to vent when frustrated and seek ideas on how to deal....anyhow, this is all appropriate. Women and men may solve issues differently, no crime in that. Women often tend to vent to get it off their chests. I have found many men who hold things in and then explode or get depressed. We all do things differently. But articulate discourse and problem-solving is not the sole domain of the males among us!

Venting here is appropriate, rather than at work where patients may hear this.

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Specializes in Med/Surg, ER and ICU!!!.

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OHHH hold your horses. Let us NOT make this a female versus male debate here.

I see people venting here, simple as that. And most of us Do tell the doctors these things, at least I know I do.

Venting here is appropriate.

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Specializes in Neuro/Med-Surg/Oncology.
PLEASE! Do NOT tell your patients they're going to be discharged and then not write the order... or write the order for ANOTHER doctor to clear the patient for discharge. Don't let the "D" word past your lips unless and until you are actually sending the pt. home!

Do you realize that family members take a day off work to bring mom home, they drive from distant places to pick up their relative.

Do you know who will take the blow back when the patient and family find out that they are NOT actually free to leave. Of all the things I've seen pts and relatives lose their composure over, this has got to be one of the most frequent.

Yes, yes yes! Or else delaying a discharge for an unnecessery clearance when these people live 3-4 hours away in small towns without making sure they can fill their prescriptions. Many places in the small towns aren't open late. A lot of them need narcs post-op and we're certainly not giving them "a few for the road."

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James, you have hit on the basic difference in communication styles (and problem solving) between men and women.

Maybe. Though I suspect, say, that Condoleeza Rice or Hillary Clinton (to name both sides of the ideological fence) might disagree with such an assessment.

And I have no objection to venting.

But does it do any good to ask the questions here? If it doesn't, why not go to the ones we have complaints with?

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Specializes in Neuro/Med-Surg/Oncology.

They seem to fall on fewer deaf ears here. ;)

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It does good, if there is the ability to alleviate annoyance and anger, and possibly get some well-intended advice on how to handle these situations. If it does the person good to communicate here, then it's all good!

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Yes, you have told me many times how nurses used to worship doctors, Well I am not those nurses and you are not God!

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Specializes in Med/Surg, ER and ICU!!!.
Yes, you have told me many times how nurses used to worship doctors, Well I am not those nurses and you are not God!

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Now, can we get back to complaining about the docs????? It is nice to not feel alone.

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Ok, how about when you had your hand operated on, and you came to my floor and asked ME to go to another floor to "show those nurses there" how to change a dressing. And how mad you got when I couldn't do it that you called my director to have her MAKE me do it. (She wouldn't do it either.) So then you wrote an order on a blank form directing us to get someone to do it.

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Ok, how about when you had your hand operated on, and you came to my floor and asked ME to go to another floor to "show those nurses there" how to change a dressing. And how mad you got when I couldn't do it that you called my director to have her MAKE me do it. (She wouldn't do it either.) So then you wrote an order on a blank form directing us to get someone to do it.
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Please tell your wife to stop calling me. I'm married and do not want to go out with her!

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4. I am NOT calling ther florist to send your mistress AND your wife flowers, just beause you met some other flooz at a bar last night and didn't come home or go to your mistress' condo.

(He's not at our hospital anymore, but i bet the next place is just having a field day with that dude's pager)

ARRRGHHH, those freakin' pagers! I swear, I'm gonna flush some surgeons pager down the hopper one day!!
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