Wife is Driving Me Crazy with SMOKING - VENT

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ok...maybe i am a little tense with 5-days-a-week school and all...or maybe i am a little anal but i just can't take the smoking anymore. :o

my wife and i decided to quite smoking over 5-years ago. i was not a big smoker to begin with and i never liked the smell…i never smoked in my car, and would often feel the need to change clothing because of the smell…my friends, harley davidson and the marlboro man group always made fun of me...

so i quit cold turkey and never looked back. my wife stopped for two or three days and stated “this is too hard”…she then concealed her habit by stashing contraband, smoking outside and using body spray.

five years later and some 20 attempts to quit she is still playing the game and i have about had it. she’s 34, and her health is deteriorating…she has a persistent hack, is steadily approaching “overweight” and her doctor has recently made comments about recent labs…ldl off the chart. we are not able to have children after fours years of trying and she is literally aging before my eyes…not the girl i married.

anyway…we agreed that she would not smoke in the house -- so she smokes outside in the backyard and throws here cigarettes everywhere. in the past she used our drinking glasses…she would then leave them all over the house with butts in them. picture walking up to someone’s front porch as seeing beautiful crystal glasses lined up along the banister…no that’s not sweet tea! full with butts! after i threatened to set her stash of marlboros on fire she graduated to a decorative box that she kept on the front porch…the perfect first impression. mmmm yummy…box-o-butts. it’s absolutely disgusting!

there are butts all around the back porch and the stink is unbearable. to add insult to injury my wife smells like an ashtray…i mean i can find her anywhere on the property or in the house by sniffing the air…her cloths stink, her hair stinks and she uses this body spray to cover it up...it makes me nauseous…lavender and marlboro…mmm sexy!

i have gotten to the point whenever she lights up in public i walk away. we went out to dinner one night and she left to “use the ladies room”. our entres arrived and i sat for 10 minutes before searching for her...i found her puffing away with the locals outside because the restaurant did not allow smoking inside. i am tired of waiting for her to finish smoking…

and if all that was not enough…it costs us a little over $200 per month for her habit. i have no patience left…yes she is supportive of my nursing pursuit but i can’t get past this…her response lately is “if you don’t like it divorce me” and “you smoked too”. but the point is we agreed to stop because it is bad for our health...and her health has fallen off. i can run 5 miles and she can barley keep up walking without hacking up a lung.

at this point i am thinking she will die young and i will spend the remainder of my life cleaning up cigarette butts she left behind…and i almost forgot – her famous catch all phrase – “you’re the only one with a problem here – if i don’t see this as a problem then there is no problem” – this is her response to my now relentless pursuit to end the smoking.

i am knee deep in a bsn program…what would you do?

Specializes in Cardiac Telemetry, ED.

Sounds like smoking was not an issue for you when you decided to marry her. It sounds like you have changed, growing to value your personal health more, while she has not changed and appears to have no interest in doing so.

In my mind, when two people care for one another and value their relationship, they compromise. Would you be willing to overlook her smoking if she agrees to stop throwing her butts everywhere? Would she be willing to work on her weight if you would be willing to do XYZ? What do you do that drives her nuts? Would you be willing to work on that if she is willing to work on herself?

If, however, you absolutely cannot overlook the smoking, and she absolutely refuses to give it up, then you two are at an impasse. Perhaps it is time to admit that your marriage was a mistake, that the two of you are incompatible and mutually satisfying compromise is not likely to occur.

I'm with the others who suggest at least giving marriage counseling a shot before making any big decisions.

Specializes in Dialysis, Nephrology & Cosmetic Surgery.

Reading this I am torn between two trains of thought.

First it may be your wife has a very low opinion of herself - the wt gain - not being able to conceive - the fact that it would appear she doesn't seem to care about the fact she smells of stale smoke etc. Would you consider spending some quality time with your wife to let her know you care about her - a surprize night away / day out or some vouchers for a spa pamper day? If she sees you are making an effort towards her she may realise that you have her interests at heart and may give her the opportunity to reflect on her own thoughts toward herself / your marriage?

My second thought is that your wife wants to split - either consciously or subconsciously - but is going down the route of pushing you to the limit so you're the one that walks away.

Most people who have been through divorce regret it and wish they had tried harder to save the marriage - it may end in a split but at least you should try everything in your power to try and prevent it so as you have no regrets later.

I hope you can come to terms with whatever happens.

Jane

Most people who have been through divorce regret it and wish they had tried harder to save the marriage -

I'm not trying to be argumentative or critical, but do you have any sources or statistics to back up that statement, or is it your own opinion/impression? I'm always kinda suspicious of those kind of blanket statements ... I'm sure a lot of people feel that way; I'm sure there are also lots of people who, in retrospect, wish they had "bit the bullet" and sought a divorce earlier, and not wasted the additional years in a relationship with no hope or future (I've known some of those folks personally), and I'm sure there are lots of divorced people who feel lots of other ways about their divorce(s). :)

I certainly agree with you that it's important to make sure that you've tried everything you can to make the relationship work before walking away.

My entire childhood was spent with a cloud of smoke around my head and I hated it. At an early age I decided I would never marry a smoker and I didn't. It was one of the smarter things I did when I was young. I am in my 60th year and I have a strong healthy spouse. Most my non smoking friends married to smokers are already widows and widowers or dealing with a spouse in very poor health.(please don't anyone tell me there are no guarantees, I am old and I know that, I am talking about the averages here) So glad it wasn't me, hubby and I are having such fun. What I am saying is that you deserve to have a healthy spouse also. If you have children they deserve not to be exposed to smoke and have a healthy mother.

Specializes in OB, M/S, HH, Medical Imaging RN.
I'm not trying to be argumentative or critical, but do you have any sources or statistics to back up that statement, or is it your own opinion/impression? I'm always kinda suspicious of those kind of blanket statements ... I'm sure a lot of people feel that way; I'm sure there are also lots of people who, in retrospect, wish they had "bit the bullet" and sought a divorce earlier, and not wasted the additional years in a relationship with no hope or future (I've known some of those folks personally), and I'm sure there are lots of divorced people who feel lots of other ways about their divorce(s). :)

I certainly agree with you that it's important to make sure that you've tried everything you can to make the relationship work before walking away.

Elmpark are you married? How long? Have you ever been married?

I've been married for 32 years and it hasn't all been wine & roses but it has been worth the struggle, without a doubt and we have been to marriage counseling in the past x 2 :redbeathe

Specializes in Dialysis, Nephrology & Cosmetic Surgery.

I am actually divorced and quite frankly it was the best thing that could have happened as far as I am concerned - I don't even like admitting I ever was married! However when we split up I did seek advice - literature and friends who had gone through divorce and I did find a lot of info - polls etc that would suggest that a lot of people feel they may have been too hasty in filing for divorce. When I did file for my divorce I felt it was absolutely the right thing to do - but it was still a difficult time and wouldn't want to repeat it - and 11 years later I am still very happily single.

I agree with you that sometimes time is wasted staying together making each other miserable but from what this member was saying I don't think he has reached the point of no return and was trying to offer some practical advice. It may well be that it doesn't work and him and his wife part, it does seem to me that either the wife could be feeling in a rut she can't help herself out of - or possibly she wouldn't be eart broken if he left? I don't know - but for his peace of mind I think he should aim to help first rather than just walk away now.

I'm not trying to be argumentative or critical, but do you have any sources or statistics to back up that statement, or is it your own opinion/impression? I'm always kinda suspicious of those kind of blanket statements ... I'm sure a lot of people feel that way; I'm sure there are also lots of people who, in retrospect, wish they had "bit the bullet" and sought a divorce earlier, and not wasted the additional years in a relationship with no hope or future (I've known some of those folks personally), and I'm sure there are lots of divorced people who feel lots of other ways about their divorce(s). :)

I certainly agree with you that it's important to make sure that you've tried everything you can to make the relationship work before walking away.

Specializes in Cardiac Telemetry, ED.
I'm not trying to be argumentative or critical, but do you have any sources or statistics to back up that statement, or is it your own opinion/impression? I'm always kinda suspicious of those kind of blanket statements ... I'm sure a lot of people feel that way; I'm sure there are also lots of people who, in retrospect, wish they had "bit the bullet" and sought a divorce earlier, and not wasted the additional years in a relationship with no hope or future (I've known some of those folks personally), and I'm sure there are lots of divorced people who feel lots of other ways about their divorce(s). :)

I would be one of those. Of course I didn't WANT divorce, after all, I got married planning on spending the rest of my life with this person. I worked my tail off to make the marriage work. I'm not *happy* that my marriage ended in divorce, but I do think it really was for the best. I am so much happier in my life now that I do not have that daily stress of trying to make an unworkable situation work. It gets to be like banging your head against a brick wall.

I am actually divorced and quite frankly it was the best thing that could have happened as far as I am concerned - I don't even like admitting I ever was married! However when we split up I did seek advice - literature and friends who had gone through divorce and I did find a lot of info - polls etc that would suggest that a lot of people feel they may have been too hasty in filing for divorce. When I did file for my divorce I felt it was absolutely the right thing to do - but it was still a difficult time and wouldn't want to repeat it - and 11 years later I am still very happily single.

I agree with you that sometimes time is wasted staying together making each other miserable but from what this member was saying I don't think he has reached the point of no return and was trying to offer some practical advice. It may well be that it doesn't work and him and his wife part, it does seem to me that either the wife could be feeling in a rut she can't help herself out of - or possibly she wouldn't be eart broken if he left? I don't know - but for his peace of mind I think he should aim to help first rather than just walk away now.

Well, that's my point -- "a lot of people" (feel that they regret their divorce) is a much different statement than saying that "most people" regret divorcing. I don't doubt that a lot of people regret divorcing -- I would just need to see some documentation to accept that "most" people do ... It's not just divorce; I'm always suspicious of those kind of "most people feel (or think, or do) ..." statements, regardless of the topic. My immediate response is, "Oh, yeah? Says who?" :)

I, also, am divorced (after seven years of marriage). It was not a hasty decision at the time -- nearly everyone I was close to encouraged me to leave him for years before I finally did; we did extensive marriage therapy before we separated and even our couples' therapist finally advised us that was the best thing we could do; and I have never regretted my decision (and it was my decision; he didn't want to split up). Obviously, the best scenario would have been for us not to marry in the first place, but, given that we did, divorce was clearly the best other option.

Once again, I am not advising the OP to leave his wife! Just reminding him that he has other options besides just putting up with, and being miserably unhappy in, the current situation. I hope that he and his wife can work things out and enjoy a long and happy marriage, and certainly encourage anyone to seek counseling/therapy before making a decision to end a serious relationship of any kind, legal or otherwise. In this situation, again, I strongly encourage the OP to become active in Al-Anon, at least (that doesn't require any participation by his wife, who may or may not be willing to pursue marriage counseling/therapy). My parents have had a great marriage for >50 years; most of my friends are happily married; I certainly am not "anti-marriage" in any way! But the other side of the coin is that divorce is not always a bad outcome ...

Dutchgirl, I'm delighted that you're been married so long, have survived some challenges together, and are happy with your situation. However, that doesn't mean that your choices are the best choices for everyone. :) The reality is that ~50% of US marriages end in divorce, and I, for one, am not prepared to assume that all those people are making the wrong decision ...

Specializes in OB, M/S, HH, Medical Imaging RN.
Dutchgirl, I'm delighted that you're been married so long, have survived some challenges together, and are happy with your situation. However, that doesn't mean that your choices are the best choices for everyone

I never implied that my choices are the best choices for everyone, simply that giving up is not always the answer.

The reality is that ~50% of US marriages end in divorce, and I, for one, am not prepared to assume that all those people are making the wrong decision ...

And I, for one, am not prepared to assume that all those people are making the right decision...

We all have an opinion ;)

Specializes in midwifery, NICU.

Smoking crops up on this site often, the issues surrounding it and the effects on all who do it or witness/endure it. I just want to throw my two penny worth in here.

All my young life, I was anti smoking. Never when my kiddos were wee, would I allow a smoker or an ashtray in my home. When I was 27 yrs old, for the first time in my life, I smoked a cigarette. Couldn't even do it right, and it made my eyes water and my hay fever wheeze.. but, hey, perseverance! :uhoh21::uhoh21:

I was around the "right" people, at a bad time in my life, my daughter was ill and needed surgery, I was a student midwife, my hubs was getting it on with a far less stressed version of myself! Hey..along come the ciggies..and wow stress relief! Something to do with your hands..(other than holding a knife and inserting it into the aforementioned husband distraction!)..(oh and the hubby!!!!)

So, here I find myself, all these years later...a stinky smoker! OMG..I hate the smell, but I love the ciggies! Still with the hubster, yes we worked through his "Neglect!!!" issues, (hey what a bad madwife!), but am an addict to the fags!

To go back to what I was before, a non smoking smell free mammy, in a minute, i would do it. But it's so hard. Guess I'm just trying to put across an opposite view of why do this thing thats so destructive. If you are nagged into giving up, you will do it more..that I know for sure. If you are nagged by the person who you FEEL drove you to it in the first place, you WILL do it more! Every single time my hubs moans that I smoke, I guess i light up another, it's perverse, I KNOW it hurts him, but in the end, it's hurting me more.

Just a thought, from a wee chimney!

Reading this I am torn between two trains of thought.

First it may be your wife has a very low opinion of herself - the wt gain - not being able to conceive - the fact that it would appear she doesn't seem to care about the fact she smells of stale smoke etc. Would you consider spending some quality time with your wife to let her know you care about her - a surprize night away / day out or some vouchers for a spa pamper day? If she sees you are making an effort towards her she may realise that you have her interests at heart and may give her the opportunity to reflect on her own thoughts toward herself / your marriage?

My second thought is that your wife wants to split - either consciously or subconsciously - but is going down the route of pushing you to the limit so you're the one that walks away.

Most people who have been through divorce regret it and wish they had tried harder to save the marriage - it may end in a split but at least you should try everything in your power to try and prevent it so as you have no regrets later.

I hope you can come to terms with whatever happens.

Jane

These are great ideas...

She recently received a gift certificate to the salon...the best in the area...and it has been on the fridge for three months now.

It seems as long as I lay off the smoking...stop "badgering" we're fine. I love her very much...I guess I need to stop complaining about the butts or....or I'll lose her.

I think the schooling may be wearing on both of us...

:smokin:

you may have hit at least one nail on the head...the problem here is i have switched off... in 1998 i was accepted into several programs and failed to even start... so this time around i have declared that nothing will stand in my way of completing my degree. when i say nothing i mean...if you get in the way then i have no use for you and unfortunately my wife has gotten in my way a few times and i expressed this. i have two years to earn my bsn and the little things are getting to me...smoking, squeezing the toothpaste in the middle, leaving laundy all over. i need complete stability and structure in order to function ...perhaps i need therapy myself.

sal why are you allowing your wifes problem become yours? set some ground rules no smokin in house, she will quit when shes ready give her a break man love unconditionally,get some counselling and if you can handle it stop playing x smoker its annoying you know wha i mean .speak the truth and the truth will set ya free :twocents:

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