With all the reading we are giving and expected to memorize, paired with minimal guidance and classroom time, how do they expect us to succeed? 2 classes over a 3 week period followed by a 50 point exam? And if I have a question or don't get it, then what?
I'm just very p.o.ed right now and getting very frustrated/borderline discouraged. All this hard work and I'm getting nothing to show for it expect disappointment and more frustration.
I would fail your class. I'm not an auditory learner. I need direction with power points, study guides, etc. or else I'm lost
OK, so you're not an auditory learner. Make YOUR OWN PowerPoints, geez. WRITE STUFF DOWN. PowerPoints aren't supposed to substitute for reading.
I had PowerPoints for my non-nursing bachelor's degree, but we had to WRITE OUR OWN NOTES to supplement them. And read our text. And figure out how to do it for ourselves.
Find someone who is a good note-taker and ask them if they can help you figure out how to take notes. There is help out there, you just refuse to take it.
Youre intellectual capacity is a lot higher than mine. Good for you. But just because you could do it, doesn't mean that everyone else can.
You are very good at making excuses, I'll give you that. My point wasn't that if I can do it so can anyone; my point was that the combination of courses alone is not to blame for your shortcomings. Nursing students take pharm and med-surg together every semester and succeed. And most of them have other courses in addition to it. Nursing school was college for me and you had to take 4-5 courses to be a full-time student, qualify for financial aid and live on campus. So EVERYONE in my program took med-surg and pharm along with clinical and 2-3 other classes.
I'm sorry if this is the first time you're hearing this but nursing school is not an "everyone gets a trophy for showing up" kind of environment. Not everyone is going to succeed. This is called being an adult. You need to take responsibility for yourself and own your own shortcomings. Nurses who blame everyone else are never going to get far.
All I've heard from you on this thread is excuses. It's the professors' fault that you're failing because they're not spoon-feeding you in the form of PowerPoint slides and study guides. It's the school's fault because their curriculum has you taking two hard courses together. The only way anyone could possibly be succeeding in nursing school is if they had a previous medical background. The allnurses community is bullying you because you don't want to hear the hard truth that you've been told. I'm not sure what you expected when you started posting on this thread. All the nurses responding to your posts have been where you are. You have never been where we are. We have offered you solid advice and you are unwilling to listen or even try and just want to blame everyone else.
I'm going to have to side with my fellow BC grad and say that this thread is rapidly becoming a waste of our time and effort. You are unwilling to heed the advice of those who have gone before you and, as such, there is nothing more that we can offer you.
You are very good at making excuses, I'll give you that. My point wasn't that if I can do it so can anyone; my point was that the combination of courses alone is not to blame for your shortcomings. Nursing students take pharm and med-surg together every semester and succeed. And most of them have other courses in addition to it. Nursing school was college for me and you had to take 4-5 courses to be a full-time student, qualify for financial aid and live on campus. So EVERYONE in my program took med-surg and pharm along with clinical and 2-3 other classes.
I'm sorry if this is the first time you're hearing this but nursing school is not an "everyone gets a trophy for showing up" kind of environment. Not everyone is going to succeed. This is called being an adult. You need to take responsibility for yourself and own your own shortcomings. Nurses who blame everyone else are never going to get far.
All I've heard from you on this thread is excuses. It's the professors' fault that you're failing because they're not spoon-feeding you in the form of PowerPoint slides and study guides. It's the school's fault because their curriculum has you taking two hard courses together. The only way anyone could possibly be succeeding in nursing school is if they had a previous medical background. The allnurses community is bullying you because you don't want to hear the hard truth that you've been told. I'm not sure what you expected when you started posting on this thread. All the nurses responding to your posts have been where you are. You have never been where we are. We have offered you solid advice and you are unwilling to listen or even try and just want to blame everyone else.
I'm going to have to side with my fellow BC grad and say that this thread is rapidly becoming a waste of our time and effort. You are unwilling to heed the advice of those who have gone before you and, as such, there is nothing more that we can offer you.
I would really like to be a fly on the wall when those students are studying for all those courses. How do they manage to squeeze in time to retain info for all those classes?? Cause I can not handle more than one NUR course at a time
I would really like to be a fly on the wall when those students are studying for all those courses. How do they manage to squeeze in time to retain info for all those classes?? Cause I can not handle more than one NUR course at a time
Well, they do manage to do it.
There are thousands of nurses out there!
If it were truly impossible, there would be none.
How did they do it?
They figured out how to study and retain the information no matter what the teaching style was.
I had an atrocious instructor who literally read straight off her power points (and she was a terrible reader too) and I knew I had to figure it out for myself.
I studied using Evolve, taking practice NCLEX questions, listening to recorded lectures before bed, pretending to teach a class, reading, recording and listening to my own notes, drawing diagrams... oh it's endless what you can do to teach yourself.
As for time, it's there because you make school your priority.
They figured out how to study and retain the information no matter what the teaching style was.
I had an atrocious instructor who literally read straight off her power points (and she was a terrible reader too) and I knew I had to figure it out for myself.
I studied using Evolve, taking practice NCLEX questions, listening to recorded lectures before bed, pretending to teach a class, reading, recording and listening to my own notes, drawing diagrams... oh it's endless what you can do to teach yourself.
As for time, it's there because you make school your priority.
People who who really want it find a way.
It's possible.
how do you do find time to do that for 2 or 3 classes though??
I would really like to be a fly on the wall when those students are studying for all those courses. How do they manage to squeeze in time to retain info for all those classes?? Cause I can not handle more than one NUR course at a time
Really? I had semesters of 18 credits...all nursing classes!
Are you in classes that make lecture plus clinical one class? That's what it is sounding like to me. If that is the case, I understand why "only" two classes has you run down. Our ADN program here has "only" two classes per semester (3 credits each!) that encompass 3 hours lecture plus 8 or 9 hours clinical each week. I don't know how they pull this off, especially with people who need aid. I couldn't imagine taking 6 credits there and having to add two more classes just to get full time aid.
But, I digress....
Em, I do genuinely believe what you are saying about all of this, which is why I said a bunch of pages ago that you need to adjust your locus of control. Did you cover what that is in psych or soc? What that means is that your current external locus of control is telling you that everything outside you is affecting your success. You need to change that to internal. You know you're struggling. Take responsibility for that and find different ways.
I PROMISE you if you find an instructor on campus and you ask them for additional resources, they WILL help. They are NOT hoping you will fail. They NEED you to do well. You know why? One day you will be THEIR nurse. Beyond program stats exists that very basic fact. They need you to know your stuff. You are paying to learn, they are paid to help facilitate that process. Please find my ADPIE breakdown. You are doing all of this reading, which is great, but you only need the basics with the patho, and need the full range of knowledge when it comes to ADPIE. You're not taking a patho class, and much of your books describes that. Skip the patho if you know the basics, and take notes on the ADPIE for now. See if that helps. (Yes you need to know the patho but for the sake of tests, not as in depth.)
Again, how many hours a day are you in these 2 classes? How many days a week?
She's been asked several times in her many other threads exactly what her daily schedule is that leaves her "no time". She never answers. She's more interested in blaming everything else but herself. We can give her advice until we're blue in the face, she's simply unwilling to adapt or change her ways.
In my program, the nursing classes consist of lecture plus clinicals for one course. They don't consider A & P, or micro "nursing classes", but pre-reqs. So I can understand, how it would be difficult to manage multiple nursing courses plus clinicals on top of your other credits. I have a bachelors in bio and I worked around 30 hours a week my first go in college. I'm going full time now, working roughly 10 hours part time, and the nursing program is easily way more time consuming than the first time I was in college. I've always been an A student, even in nursing school and I still find myself overwhelmed at times.
All that to say maybe some people can be more understanding and empathetic to others and their experiences. There is no need to continue to beat a dead horse and tell someone who is struggling and probably discouraged how they are doing nursing school all wrong. If nursing school is not in the cards for those people, they will figure it out one way or another. A lot of these messages were unnecessary. Everyone has different strengths and weaknesses and some may need more help than others. Maybe we could try using some of those therapeutic communication skills we have learned.
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OK, so you're not an auditory learner. Make YOUR OWN PowerPoints, geez. WRITE STUFF DOWN. PowerPoints aren't supposed to substitute for reading.
I had PowerPoints for my non-nursing bachelor's degree, but we had to WRITE OUR OWN NOTES to supplement them. And read our text. And figure out how to do it for ourselves.
Find someone who is a good note-taker and ask them if they can help you figure out how to take notes. There is help out there, you just refuse to take it.