Nurses Are Leaving the Bedside In Droves

We can all agree that in most areas of the nation, there is ample supply of nurses at the bedside, and in many areas, supply has well exceeded demand. Why they ask, are nurses always leaving the bedside? ANSWER: We didn't. The profession left us. Nurses General Nursing Article

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We can debate the why's, where's, how's, when's of the toxic culture in many hospitals and nursing homes.

More work, less support staff. More work, less pay. Too many patients. Higher acuity, more orders, fewer nurses being hired. My boss is dumb. My boss is toxic. Yes, its a BIG factor in a nurses decision to leave. We hate drama. We want to do our jobs in peace.

But those are just workplace semantics. There is drama in every workplace, wether in nursing, retail, law enforcement, food services, housekeeping, gaming, farming, hospitality, transportation, or basket weaving. Yes, its there now, and yes, it was there 50 years ago.

Truth be told, years ago, before corporate mergers/ takeovers/ acquisitions became as simple as buying pizza, we had hospitals and nursing homes. Today we have hospital systems and nursing home chains. With these corporate conglomerates at the helm, our profession was taken away. We lost our voices. We lost our sanity. We lost our zeal. Same thing happened to the banking system in the 1980s. Local stand alone banks were bought up, one by one, until we had 6 or 7 worldwide megabanks.

Corporate mentality stole the nursing profession and burned it at the stake. What used to be patient focus, is now billing focus. Today we do not have patients, we have inventory. Some generate substantial money, others are a drain. This is why, when and how "staffing to census" began rearing its ugly head. Back in the old days, there was no such thing as staffing to census. Nurses were hired on certain units, and that is where they stayed. Some days were super busy, others were not.

Staffing in hospitals and nursing homes today is soley based upon inventory (patients) and money (acuity). Not enough inventory in the burn unit? Float the nurse. Not enough inventory in L & D? Tell the nurse to stay home. Too many nurses on telemetry? Send 2 home, or let them work as techs on med-surg. And the list goes on.

What used to be paper documentation by exception, became EMR to generate maximum amounts of reimbursements from medicare, medicaid, and insurance. This is why we have box checkers (formerly known as nurses) spending 75% of their time at computer stations, and 25% of their time at the bedside. If you're lucky. So the next time your wife, husband, brother, sister, friend or companion starts mocking you for being a serial job hunter/ hopper, send them to this article.

Spread the word. Nurses didn't leave the bedside, the profession left us.

Specializes in Med-Surg, NICU.
46 minutes ago, HomeBound said:

I make $118K because I take 4 months off a year.

My COL is low. I own a house free and clear--and I have to do the "duplicated expenses" thing for the IRS--but I have friends and family pretty much everywhere I have chosen to do a job (which is why I choose the places that I do).

This has nothing to do with "not caring" about younger nurses. Again...you and some other poster are quite hyperbolic when there is no reasonable answer as to why this perception persists---that the newer nurses are there for the quick buck, the easy path to NP, the ones we see on the boards crying that they were fired for this or that posted on their fakebook accounts.

Why is that? Why do you think that this perception persists? Where did it come from if this isn't reality?

My whole point is being made by your post. Why are you working "multiple jobs" with "crazy student loans"? Unless you haven't noticed, that's the point of this thread.

"Why Nurses are Leaving Bedside".

It irked me that you implied that "second careerists"--are just blind idiots that had stars in their eyes, ergo, nursing. We just had no idea what hard work is...

"....left their cushy jobs for nursing and just had no idea how hard nurses work..."

Really? Nurses are the only hard working individuals? That's the implication with your statement. Also that second careerists---who are generally >40 years old....are just uninformed and have zero life experience that they can't possibly be as informed as the "Gen Y" nurses.

I am speaking from 35 years of experience. When you get to 35 years old--are you telling me that you will have no additional experience that a 19 year old really doesn't have?

You're insulted because someone with far more life and work experience than you is giving a well rounded perspective?

At 4 years I was just like you---knew everything and was so annoyed with old timers who actually did know more. There's a reason for the saying "If I'd known then what I know now....I would have done things differently."

This is about making better choices--OP is a making a point that the lies that are handed out by facilities, nursing schools and yes...other nurses...because of their own agendas---robs people of informed choice. The exploitation of nurses, by those facilities, nursing schools and yes....other nurses...is the problem.

Not my feelings towards anyone ridiculous enough to take pictures of their cleavage and post it on social media, wondering why no one takes them seriously.

Once again, I never said anything about age when I mentioned second-career nurses. You made an assumption. There are a lot of older first-career nurses who didn't have a professional job before nursing because they stayed at home with their kids for many years. Or they worked a job as single mothers that paid barely above minimum wage while they took classes one at a time. There are also second-career nurses who went right back to college after finding out that their first degree of choice wasn't what they wanted, and many are under 30.

You have also haven't lived my life. I am only stating something I have noticed but for some reason, you act as though you have lived my life and therefore can say whether or not my experiences are true. In my experience, so many people are walking into nursing from what most nurses who considered "cushy" jobs without any knowledge of nursing or what nurses go through. Those of us who worked the floor as nursing assistants prior to becoming nurses and don't have another career to fall back on usually stick around. That is a logical fact.

I also never called second-career nurses "blind idiots" but from my experience, the ones who leave previous jobs because they were "unfulfilled" and "felt called to nursing" because they wanted to "help people" are some of the first ones who are burnt out. Once their romanticize view has been shattered, many run back to what they did before. First-career nurses typically don't have the option. It is either leave the bedside, advance in nursing or start over in another career, which often isn't an option for many because of the mounting student loans.

As for your implication of me being insulted...nah. Don't flatter yourself. But since you want to be immature and dismissive, I won't bother continuing with this discussion. You clearly despise younger worker and have this stereotype of us in our heads, and it isn't worth discussing any further. I don't know everything, and I'll admit it...but neither do you.

Adios!

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Specializes in ICU, trauma, neuro.
20 minutes ago, HomeBound said:

There's an easier answer than my old rear end becoming an NP.

UNIONIZE.

I consider unionization as an entry point. However, the union is only as powerful as the state laws and membership. So for example here in Florida only about 20% of the hospitals are unionized and despite their best efforts the best they can do is make the hospitals "sort of" obey their own policies (for example before the union, my manager used to float whoever she felt like, at least now with the union and the contract floating is rotated, just as hospital policy had always dictated). My endpoint isn't "just a bunch of NP's having private practices". Rather, I actually want NP's and RN's to actually have hospitals and HMO networks that out compete the chain hospitals, and offer superior service to the patients, and living wages/conditions to the employees. Once upon a time churches led hospital progress in America, I believe that nurses can do the same today. If Rick Scott (now a politician), but the former CEO of HCA when they received the largest fine in Medicare history is emperor Palpatine, then dedicated RN's and NP's can be the equivalent of a modern day Jedi movement for healthcare.

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Specializes in Med-Surg, NICU.
43 minutes ago, Workitinurfava said:

Good for you for leaving. That is all I have to say.

Yes. Amen!

2 hours ago, myoglobin said:

As I tell her all the time the only way to have any assurance of long term prospects is to move to an independent practice state and "build" our own practice where the clients will be more inclined to stay loyal (if we produce the kind of optimal results that I believe we can). Expanded evening hours, weekend hours so that ADHD kids don't have to miss school, these are the sorts of things that can maintain long term viability even in a competitive market.

Great model- you have good business sense to leverage the education. Rural areas are often underserved and need better access too- I recall driving 60 miles one way to the nearest urgent care when my usual NP provider was on vacation and I had a UTI and needed Abx.

I lived in Europe awhile in the last century and doctors were paid a modest amount by the govt and had an office and office hours for a day or two depending on population in each little village and MADE HOUSE CALLS to follow up if you were in to their office hours last week pretty sick. So the doc is here today and in the neighboring village tomorrow, etc. I thought it was a great model and would save a bundle on emergency care.

Specializes in ED, ICU, Prehospital.
59 minutes ago, ThePrincessBride said:

Yes. Amen!

You're assuming that because I'm leaving nursing...that I am leaving AN. ?

Nah.

Specializes in LTC, Med-surg.

I am going to NP school and I spoke with another NP grad from the school I am attending and everybody in her graduating class received job offers by the time they graduated. Job listings in the local area also show really good salary potential for my area (Bay Area). I have heard online education isn’t well-respected so I decided to attend a local university and although, it’s several thousands dollars I also know I have 4 more decades in this field and I plan to do it in an office rather than on my feet at the bedside. One reason I dislike bedside nursing is because of the customer service orientation to nursing. My administrator actually has told me that I needed to work on my “customer service” skills. That comment left me without a doubt in my choice.

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1 hour ago, ThePrincessBride said:

I don't know everything, and I'll admit it...but neither do you.

This is actually something worth repeating, no matter how old/young/experienced you are.

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Specializes in Cardiology.
1 hour ago, nate411 said:

Prior to nursing, I used to be against unions 100% , of all types, shapes and sizes. And now I am 100% for them. It takes no education , certification, or CE , physical stamina , etc...to be working the parts counter at Autozone, except the employees at Autozone are treated a whole lot better. I have never seen such a dime a dozen attitude aimed at the nursing profession, in ANY OTHER INDUSTRY. CNAs getting nurses fired. Secretaries getting nurses fired. Family getting nurses fired. Patients getting nurses fired. Nurses getting nurses fired. Doctors getting nurses fired...it just never ends. They just hit up the vending machine, and out pops the next nurse. Its sick. I think one has to be pathologically toxic to survive in this toxic profession.

I feel like in no other profession is one job responsible for so many. Why do I have to be responsible for someone’s mistake that went through twice the amount of schooling? This is in regards to MDs, pharmacists, PAs. Being responsible for CNAs is annoying too.

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Specializes in ED, ICU, Prehospital.
1 hour ago, myoglobin said:

I consider unionization as an entry point. However, the union is only as powerful as the state laws and membership. So for example here in Florida only about 20% of the hospitals are unionized and despite their best efforts the best they can do is make the hospitals "sort of" obey their own policies (for example before the union, my manager used to float whoever she felt like, at least now with the union and the contract floating is rotated, just as hospital policy had always dictated). My endpoint isn't "just a bunch of NP's having private practices". Rather, I actually want NP's and RN's to actually have hospitals and HMO networks that out compete the chain hospitals, and offer superior service to the patients, and living wages/conditions to the employees. Once upon a time churches led hospital progress in America, I believe that nurses can do the same today. If Rick Scott (now a politician), but the former CEO of HCA when they received the largest fine in Medicare history is emperor Palpatine, then dedicated RN's and NP's can be the equivalent of a modern day Jedi movement for healthcare.

ZDogg says it much better than I do---this isn't my opinion. This is a large problem that is far far larger than the few posters that are hanging around AN.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_1PNZdHq6Q

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4 hours ago, ThePrincessBride said:

I find that the people who struggle with nursing the most are the second-career folks with $$$ in their eyes or some delusion that nursing the only job that is a "fulfilling" and "helps people." They leave their cushy former careers behind and then are shocked at how hard nurses work and how underpaid we are. The micromanagement, the rude patients and their crazy families, rude doctors. No support. Understaffing. Those of us who work as techs while in nursing school and see nursing for what it is typically last longer.

Disagree completely!!! I wonder if you can find any second career nurse who went in with $$$ in their eyes? I made more in my former career but was obsolete after decades out raising children. As far as finding nursing fulfilling and a profession that helps people, that is no delusion. That is the truth for me.

Some hard knocks in life gave me a lot more compassion for patients than I would have had when I was younger as well as an appreciation for the job security and mobility I have experienced in nursing (have worked in 3 states in my 7 year career and got jobs pretty easily).

As for turnover, I don't have any statistics but I would bet it's lower with older nurses. The older generation is known for job loyalty while Millennial nurses are headed for the exit. One gets over the "grass is greener" syndrome after experience with that green grass over the septic tank or the parched grass of economic insecurity.

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Specializes in Med-Surg, NICU.
4 minutes ago, 2Ask said:

Disagree completely!!! I wonder if you can find any second career nurse who went in with $$$ in their eyes? I made more in my former career but was obsolete after decades out raising children. As far as finding nursing fulfilling and a profession that helps people, that is no delusion. That is the truth for me.

Some hard knocks in life gave me a lot more compassion for patients than I would have had when I was younger as well as an appreciation for the job security and mobility I have experienced in nursing (have worked in 3 states in my 7 year career and got jobs pretty easily).

As for turnover, I don't have any statistics but I would bet it's lower with older nurses. The older generation is known for job loyalty while Millennial nurses are headed for the exit. One gets over the "grass is greener" syndrome after experience with that green grass over the septic tank or the parched grass of economic insecurity.

I would argue that nursing really isn't all the economically secure as some people make it out to be. Yeah, we cannot be outsourced or automated like many positions, but due to the sheer number of people entering nursing school, the saturation levels take away that level of security. We are 100% replaceable and management and co. know this. They can always find cheaper labor.

As far as second-career nurses, I have been on allnurses and I cannot tell you how many posts I have read of people wishing they hadn't left their former, higher-paying, less stressful careers for nursing and wish they had done their research prior to sinking years and thousands of dollars into the career. A lot of it has to do with them hating their so-called soul-sucking corporate job and thinking that nursing is some sort of knight in shining armor...it isn't.

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Specializes in Cardiology.
3 minutes ago, ThePrincessBride said:

I would argue that nursing really isn't all the economically secure as some people make it out to be. Yeah, we cannot be outsourced or automated like many positions, but due to the sheer number of people entering nursing school, the saturation levels take away that level of security. We are 100% replaceable and management and co. know this. They can always find cheaper labor.

As far as second-career nurses, I have been on allnurses and I cannot tell you how many posts I have read of people wishing they hadn't left their former, higher-paying, less stressful careers for nursing and wish they had done their research prior to sinking years and thousands of dollars into the career. A lot of it has to do with them hating their so-called soul-sucking corporate job and thinking that nursing is some sort of knight in shining armor...it isn't.

Im a second career nurse but thats because I was in a pinch. I wasnt in a low stress, high paying cushy job before nursing school. I do wish that I would have looked at a trade after leaving the military instead of jumping right into college. Oh well, live and learn.

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