Why can't I do everything a RN does as a LPN? We should be equal.

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Why do RN's make more when we practically do the SAME THING. I don't understand how RN's having the ability to start IV's and give a few medications IV push make them more valuable than an LPN. Those extra courses you take to become RN's, heck even BSN's don't add anything clinically. When I am on the floor, WE DO THE SAME THING, yet I take home 30% less than my RN/BSN colleagues. Does anyone else agree that us as LPNS should be able to make the same salary? I hope the Affordable Healthcare Act (AHR) addresses this issue with EQUAL PAY for EQUAL work. We are a lot cheaper to higher than RN's so hopefully the (AHC) will realize this and create more of a demand for efficient LPN's that are easier to train, and cheaper to higher, thus bringing RN wages on par with our wages. It just doesn't make sense for the hospital to pay a RN $25-30/hr to start, while I make $22/hr and have more than 18 years experience. Any thoughts?

SweetPoo, do you really not understand the difference between anecdotes and evidenced-based practice?

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Can I tell you about the time when the RN who had recently graduated asked me "hey this PTs BUN is really

Low, should I call the doctor to see if he wants to give the pt more BUN. I don't know what they are teaching the new generation of nurses, but we don't hand out BUN's to pts when the lab Value comes back as low.

They graduated from the Sir Mix-A-Lot School of Nursing

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Can I tell you about the time when the RN who had recently graduated asked me "hey this PTs BUN is really

Low, should I call the doctor to see if he wants to give the pt more BUN. I don't know what they are teaching the new generation of nurses, but we don't hand out BUN's to pts when the lab Value comes back as low.

You can't generalize all new grads based on one, I'm a new grad and I certainly know about BUN. I'm sorry but that is merely one situation, it is not evidenced based research that all of us keep begging you for, because regardless of how many of these "dumb new grad RN" stories you post it does not bring merit to your OPINION that LPN's are equal to RN's. We need actual evidenced based research for that, something that you keep avoiding....

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Specializes in ortho, hospice volunteer, psych,.

Wiki is NOT a bone fide reference site in any University course. Wiki is a quick way to look up how tall your favorite movie star is. when Montmartre became the tourist attraction that it is, but neither it or Web MD should be considered to be reliable medical or nursing checkpoints.

The very idea is laughable. I spit my tea all over a very indignant cat when I read that!

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Jesus, this thread is literally the dumbest crap I've read all day. I had to chase baby docs around the ICU each July at my old job, maybe I shoulda demanded equal pay for that too. Cause God and Allah and Zoroaster and the Flying Spaghetti Monster all know the nurses knew more than they did.

Let's set a precedent, shall we? Wikipedia is on my side, I'm going to start writing all my own orders and rxing my own meds cause I have the bemefit of "more experience." Who's with me?

You stated more education makes you better than me and must know more than me, so how can you say you chased doctors in July and stated you have more knowledge than them. Because you don't according to your own statement of more education equals greater critical thinking kills. And from what we know MD have more years of training. And that's a fact.

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Specializes in Critical Care.

Sure. Fine. By your logic, Poo, I know how to hammer two boards together so I'm just gonna go out and build my own house. I'll go you one further-- I can read a manual and watch YouTube, I'm just going to go replace the engine on my Charger. Because by YOUR logic, you should be able to do everything an RN does and reap the benefit of our licensure (ie, money and prestige) without ever having had the training and education we have simply because you can look up lab values and read Wikipedia.

Go ahead and tell me alllll about some new grads you ran into who don't have "18 years" of experience. And I'm suuuuure you've never made a dumb mistake before either. Not at all in your "18 years" at the bedside.

Seriously, get a clue.

Here, this should help:

Urban Dictionary: ButtHurt

And this should assist you in building a bridge and getting over yourself:

Bridge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Im pretty sure what I stated in regards to HYPOkalemia and insulin and so fourth are a fact. Whether I pulled it from wiki, Journal article, some physician, it's free knowledge and it's correct at least in this case. Thank you.

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Specializes in General Surgery, NICU.

Not worth to post..

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Specializes in Critical Care.
You stated more education makes you better than me and must know more than me, so how can you say you chased doctors in July and stated you have more knowledge than them. Because you don't according to your own statement of more education equals greater critical thinking kills. And from what we know MD have more years of training. And that's a fact.

I'm using your logic against you, you silly silly woman. Honestly.

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Not worth to post..

You are right, her mind is made up and she see's what she wants to see. Typing anything that makes even a little bit of sense is better spent throwing it against a wall..... She can't provide any evidence to back up her opinion, she just tries to switch peoples words around.

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Do you mean "Stephen Hawking" ?

Wouldn't *dream* of belittling you. You've done a pretty good job of doing that yourself, Wikipedia LVN.

This! Thank u!

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I change wet diapers, you change pooped diapers along with me. I hang IV meds which I have

Calculated the drip rate and all, and all you do is pretend to double check my work, and sign off on it. Oh the physical exam, not really hard to listen to wheezing, rales, arrhythmias, a good skin check for ulcers, those are all things I do along side the RNs. Obama will figure this out, and phase RNs out since LPNs are cheaper, and then have NP's phase doctors because that's cheaper. That's how you solve healthcare in America.

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