MoJoRNBSN

ADN 2010 and BSN 2012, had a hard time finding a job at first so I went back to school for the in-school deferment of my student loans.

I think because if the hospital system is 'requiring' the education, they have to provide a means to obtain it whether it's through inservices, reimbursement, or classes provided free of charge to employees. I'm required to have ACLS, PALS, NRP or ENPC, MICN if I want to answer the radio, TNCC since we handle trauma... those classes are expensive and my employer does both: provides class dates and instructors and has a contract with a local consortium where I provide my employee number and I take the classes for free. So if they don't want to pay for a bridge program, they need to grandfather in those who don't wish to take the schooling for whatever reason: close to retirement, can't afford it, childcare issues, etc. JMO.

I'm using your logic against you, you silly silly woman. Honestly.

Sure. Fine. By your logic, Poo, I know how to hammer two boards together so I'm just gonna go out and build my own house. I'll go you one further-- I can read a manual and watch YouTube, I'm just going to go replace the engine on my Charger. Because by YOUR logic, you should be able to do everything an RN does and reap the benefit of our licensure (ie, money and prestige) without ever having had the training and education we have simply because you can look up lab values and read Wikipedia. Go ahead and tell me alllll about some new grads you ran into who don't have "18 years" of experience. And I'm suuuuure you've never made a dumb mistake before either. Not at all in your "18 years" at the bedside. Seriously, get a clue. Here, this should help: Urban Dictionary: ButtHurt And this should assist you in building a bridge and getting over yourself: Bridge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jesus, this thread is literally the dumbest crap I've read all day. I had to chase baby docs around the ICU each July at my old job, maybe I shoulda demanded equal pay for that too. Cause God and Allah and Zoroaster and the Flying Spaghetti Monster all know the nurses knew more than they did. Let's set a precedent, shall we? Wikipedia is on my side, I'm going to start writing all my own orders and rxing my own meds cause I have the bemefit of "more experience." Who's with me?

Do you mean "Stephen Hawking" ? Wouldn't *dream* of belittling you. You've done a pretty good job of doing that yourself, Wikipedia LVN.

Because, as we all know, **** rolls downhill. As there was no real harm done to the patient, the doc will be absolved of any wrongdoing and the nurse will be reprimanded and maybe even fired.

Sounds like someone is just butthurt and jealous. Maaaaaaybe on a medsurg floor LVNs and RNs aremt hugely different, but come to the ICU or the ER and I'm sorry but your little bubble will get burst.

Curiouser and curiouser

Additionally how do we know this Dr Deutsch isn't a ***** who hates nurses? How do we know that this isn't a case of the MD trying to deflect blame or responsibility? I think for me, I've seen so many MDs blame the nurses, that's why I'm able to kind of let her off the hook... at least unless and until more info comes to light.

Oh, ha ha the "Bethesda" threw me off :)

This is in Maryland though, and they may not have the same ratios as we do. Maybe the C-Section pt was hers also. Maybe the C-section pt was emergent? who knows. The problem is that this nurse is being scapegoated by the MD and the hospital and it's not fair.

I know right? Because for instance the distinction btw IV and SQ or regular vs humalog wasnt made, which makes a huge difference in mechanism of action and effect on lytes. Wikipedia IS hard if you use it wrong.

You're being pretty arrogant, actually. There is no way you do what I do or know what I know despite your 18 years experience, just as an RN with 18 years experience can't claim equality with an M.D. You're discussing tasky stuff like chest tubes and equating that to the intensive training an RN ( ADN) gets in critical thinking or the leadership and development that a BSN gets. There is so much more involved with being an RN than managing a chest tube or starting an IV. If you're that worried about the money then take the year and get your RN license.

Is the amio for afib with rvr or is it svt? If you convert with amio for sustained afib rvr in the 140s you should probably ask for pharmaceutical anticoags to give concurrently as the pt could throw a clot. If svt, I've seen more cardizem gtts and treatment of underlying causes than I have amio drips.