Published Sep 21, 2012
turnforthenurse, MSN, NP
3,364 Posts
And try just cannot put their finger on it, what do you do? I have encountered patients like this and was told to never ignore it, because usually when patients think they are going to die, they do. Thankfully nothing has happened with these encounters. I try to get an idea of "what is wrong" but the patient doesn't know. Usually VS are WNL, might be a little tachy from anxiety or something. Upon assessment, everything just seems benign.
So what do you do?
Anna Flaxis, BSN, RN
1 Article; 2,816 Posts
I think all you really can do is assess the patient, let them know that you're taking their concern seriously, and stay calm. I think it's worth noting if someone tells you this, but if your assessment does not reveal anything not WNL, then all you can do is continue to monitor. If the patient has known anxiety and has a PRN ordered, I might offer that. Otherwise, I might try distracting them with conversation, or find something on the TV they want to watch, or offer to find them a newspaper to read or a cup of herbal tea. Sometimes anxiety is indicative of something physically wrong, and sometimes people just feel anxious outside of their normal environment, and that anxiety can manifest as a feeling of "something not being quite right". The only thing you can do is assess and intervene based upon your assessment. Follow the nursing process.
amoLucia
7,736 Posts
Listen to them and watch them like a hawk! And if they tell you 'now it's time to call son in Boston', RUN, do not walk to make the call to Boston.
umcRN, BSN, RN
867 Posts
This happens a lot in peds where the parents say something isn't right with the child but can't quite put a finger on it. LISTEN TO THEM! Watch them, notify the doc, in peds we heavily rely on the parents when they say something isn't right. It might be just as simple as them not being interested in a favorite TV show, not wanting to eat, breathing slightly faster (but still WNL), etc. Last time I had a parent who told me kiddo didnt look right the kiddo arrested 30 minutes later. And he spent most of the morning sitting up in bed, watching Mickey and telling me about him. I personally thought it looked a little tired, like any child would be in the intensive care unit days after a major surgery, and his parents couldn't quite point out what was wrong except that something was wrong (it was his heart failing, by the way). Even if it's something that seems silly it doesn't hurt to listen to them and pay them a little more attenction
blondy2061h, MSN, RN
1 Article; 4,094 Posts
I honestly thought that this "feeling" was basically bull, despite hearing stories about it. Then I had a moment where I just didn't feel right and couldn't describe what was wrong. 5 minutes later I was fully into my first anaphylactic reaction.
Been there,done that, ASN, RN
7,241 Posts
I have seen many patients describe "impending doom".
It surely is a reason to take note and re -assess their condition. That's all we can do.
Nine times out of ten... the grim reaper showed up... and my reassessment meant squat.
anotherone, BSN, RN
1,735 Posts
Get vitals, focused assessment and head to toe. Look at labs. Maybe alert doctor. Is this a change from his/her personality? CT /xray everything? Draw random labs?
sapphire18
1,082 Posts
Check everything you possibly can, head to toe assessment (at least neuro and heart/lungs) and MONITOR! You know that "sense of impending doom" they tell us about in nursing school? Yeah, that's real.
JMBnurse
82 Posts
Anytime you hear anyone in a clinical setting say, "Something just isn't right.....", take it very seriously. I have seen patients crash and some die not long after someone uttered that phrase. It can come from a nurse, an aide, a doctor a family member or the patient themselves. As noted by PP, very, very often stated by parents. I worked with several doctors over the years who told me, when a nurse called them and said something just isn't right with a patient, if they knew the nurse, they would immediately take that very seriously and move into action. I have stood there and watched patients crash and die, who were not expected to die that day, after yelling out repeatedly that they were dying. (note: the whole time I wasn't just standing there.)
Of course not all people yell out, "I'm dying", right before they die. Not common at all. And anxiety and panic attacks can cause the same "feeling" in a person, although it's usually always the patient themselves who think something is not right when it comes to anxiety. Others around them don't usually have "the feeling".
So, the moral is, watch closely anytime you hear those words. Assess and monitor and rule everything out.
If you are a nurse in a hospital or LTC long enough, you will witness this rare phenomenon at some point.
jennilynn
84 Posts
I had a patient the other night that, upon looking at him, I knew something wasn't right. My charge and house supervisor agreed. I kept a pretty close eye on him all night, needed to call for orders, and told the doc of my ominous feeling. I went to hang some fluids on him at about 0430, he was talking and then told me he was scared. Sure enough, we coded him at about 0500 that morning.
I totally trust MY gut and when the patient can tell you that something's off.....listen.
Thanks for your replies, everything! I'm just trying to see what else I can "do" when a patient says this. I once had a patient tell me something wasn't right but everything was WNL...the hospitalist happened to be on the floor so I notified him. He briefly looked at the patient and just told me to continue to watch her, which I did. Thankfully, nothing happened.
We had another patient, same thing. I was at the desk and the clerk answered the call light phone, but I could HEAR the patient wheezing through the phone from where I was sitting, so I immediately went to check. The primary RN was busy with another patient. Got RT to come do a breathing tx and the patient kept telling me, "something isn't right, and I don't know what. I feel like I'm about to have a heart attack or a stroke or something." Then they started c/o severe chest pain, but the patient looked calm. Grabbed a 12-lead EKG and it was pretty benign...I updated the primary RN on my findings and stayed with the patient. Had her grab some pain meds because I didn't want to leave the patient alone.
Again, thankfully nothing happened on my shift...but they ended up in CCU the next morning. Not sure what happened afterwards.
Mommy&RN, BSN, RN
275 Posts
I have had the feeling several times. Usually I'm right.
I had an elderly man who every night would tell me he couldn't breathe, but was yelling. The first 2 nights I was able to calm him and refocus him to slow his breathing.
This night I called for a breathing treatment, and asked a coworker to stay with him while I made a call to the MD. The house supervisor was on the floor and went to check him as well.
During this entire time, he is screaming he could not breathe. RT started the treatment and about 10 seconds into it, he arrested.
We were able to "get him back" and he lived to leave the hospital.
There have been many times that I just can't put my finger on what's wrong, but something usually isn't right. Trust your gut and your pts.