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When a Covid 19 vaccine becomes available, will it be absolutely mandatory for healthcare staff?

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When a Covid 19 vaccine will become.available , will it be mandatory for us? I am not against vaccines but I personally have a reaction to the influenza vaccine and chose not to take it. Will they give us the same option, or will it become absolutely mandatory?

What do you guys think?

RNNPICU, BSN, RN

Specializes in PICU. Has 13 years experience.

I am guessing mandatory. Similar to the H1N1 vaccine. Flu vaccine and COVID vaccine will not be the same There still will be a flu vaccine, different viruses.

A Hit With The Ladies, BSN, RN

Specializes in Psych. Has 5 years experience.

There's no way it'd be mandatory. Only half of Americans polled would take a COVID vaccine if it were offered. And bear in mind, unlike the flu vaccine, a COVID vaccine would be brand new and thus would be a rushed job and untested in a broad populace for a substantial period of time. There will be many millions who will refuse to be guinea pigs for it. And the last thing the general public wants is a great social upheaval where nearly half the healthcare workforce immediately went unemployed because they refused to take a brand new vaccine.

NRSKarenRN, BSN, RN

Specializes in Vents, Telemetry, Home Care, Home infusion. Has 44 years experience.

Since the COVID-19 caused a worldwide pandemic, I expect hospitals and SNF's, healthcare facilities to require staff to get vaccine, just like they currently do for flu. Philadelphia, PA health systems offer mandatory free flu vaccines; expect them to offer Covid vaccine once proven effective and available.

5 hours ago, NRSKarenRN said:

Since the COVID-19 caused a worldwide pandemic, I expect hospitals and SNF's, healthcare facilities to require staff to get vaccine, just like they currently do for flu. Philadelphia, PA health systems offer mandatory free flu vaccines; expect them to offer Covid vaccine once proven effective and available.

The "proven effective" and "available" parts are both very worrisome with our current federal leadership.

llg, PhD, RN

Specializes in Nursing Professional Development. Has 44 years experience.

I think it will vary from place to place, as flu vaccine varies now. Some places will add it to their mandatory list. Others won't. Timing may also vary. Some places may make it mandatory right away. Others may wait awhile to see how things go.

Do you think that mass vaccination will be offered free of charge to Americans?

It is sure looking that way. We have been lucky and not had any Covid where I work but we are now required to get a Covid 19 test once a week. It is mandatory and we do not know how long this will go on. It is highly political and I would dare any so called experts to demonstrate or prove that it is effective in stopping the spread. There is no way to do it especially with the number of cases in a rapid decline right before all this testing began. Newest headlines point to millions of tests being made available by the new year. We can see that our employer is making us available to use up the covid tests national guard has so thoughtfully brought in. We thought they were going to be for sick people but now we are primarily testing people with 0 symptoms multiple times.

On 6/4/2020 at 3:26 PM, Anne36 said:

As to the vaccine I have no doubt it will be made free of charge by our employer or the government. Our tax dollars will pay for it. Will it be tested safe or effective? No, there will not be any time for proper safety trials because it is a "warp speed" job. This will not stop it from becoming Mandatory. https://www.law.com/newyorklawjournal/2020/05/28/state-bar-calls-for-mandatory-covid-19-vaccinations-regardless-of-objections/

This is scary. Someone else mentioned H1N1 mandatory vaccination, I wasn't a nurse back then, but due to the media scare factor I did get the vaccine and almost died at a Walgreens location. My BP dropped, I couldn't breathe ended up in ER was told I am highly sensitive to the vaccine . I did get the regular influenza vaccine once more when working in acute care, again with adverse effects, albeit not so bad.

I don't know what I would personally do if there was no other option but get the vaccine.

On a side note, I also had a similar reaction to an MMR boost I got when I moved here to the US. No adverse reactions to tetanus shot, Hep B series. My body is really strange.

On 6/3/2020 at 2:57 PM, RNNPICU said:

I am guessing mandatory. Similar to the H1N1 vaccine. Flu vaccine and COVID vaccine will not be the same There still will be a flu vaccine, different viruses.

Did they force everyone in healthcare to get the vaccine? I wasn't a nurse back then

MeganMN

Specializes in Emergency Room. Has 15 years experience.

I wasn't required to get the H1N1 at that time, but suspect that this will not be the same...My hospital already resorts to bullying and bribery for the yearly flu shot....

I'm old enough to remember the polio epidemic and what happened when the first vaccine was administered. I have to pass on a vaccine until it is proven to be safe.

Kitiger, RN

Specializes in Private Duty Pediatrics. Has 42 years experience.

I'm afraid President Trump will put too much pressure to push through a vaccine too fast.

The Salk polio vaccine caused polio in some children, as the vaccine was improperly made.

"In April 1955, soon after mass polio vaccination began in the US, the Surgeon General began to receive reports of patients who contracted paralytic polio about a week after being vaccinated with Salk polio vaccine from Cutter pharmaceutical company, with the paralysis limited to the limb the vaccine was injected into. In response the Surgeon General pulled all polio vaccine made by Cutter Laboratories from the market, but not before 250 cases of paralytic illness had occurred. Wyeth polio vaccine was also reported to have paralyzed and killed several children. It was soon discovered that some lots of Salk polio vaccine made by Cutter and Wyeth had not been properly inactivated, allowing live poliovirus into more than 100,000 doses of vaccine. In May 1955, the National Institutes of Health and Public Health Services established a Technical Committee on Poliomyelitis Vaccine to test and review all polio vaccine lots and advise the Public Health Service as to which lots should be released for public use. These incidents reduced public confidence in polio vaccine leading to a drop in vaccination rates.[76]"

The H1N1 vaccine in 1976 caused Guillain-Barre syndrome.

"An H1N1 (swine flu) outbreak among recruits at Fort Dix leads to a vaccination program to prevent a pandemic. Within 10 months, roughly 25% of the US population is vaccinated (48 million people), about twice the level needed to provide coverage for the at-risk population. Cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome, a neurologic condition that in rare instances has been associated with vaccination, among vaccine recipients appeared to be in excess of what was expected, so officials determine the vaccination program should be halted. "

See also zdoggmd's video interview with Dr. Paul Offit on some of the hurtles that must be overcome to make a new vaccine. Dr. Offit states it takes YEARS to know that you have a safe vaccine.

The Salk vaccine had problems with production. The H1N1 vaccine was pushed through too fast.

COVID 19 is a pandemic; millions of people will want the vaccine. If there are problems with a new vaccine, it would be better to find out with a smaller test group.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_vaccine

https://www.CDC.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/pandemic-timeline-1930-and-beyond.htm

https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=zdoggmd&epa=SEARCH_BOX

CommunityRNBSN, BSN, RN

Specializes in Community health. Has 3 years experience.

I love vaccines. I get my flu shot every single year. My son has been vaccinated against every disease in existence. Am I going to be first in line for a vaccine that was rushed through development and production, that prevents an illness that I have a low risk of serious illness from? I am not. Give it a while and then I’ll happily take my shot but not during the first wave of recipients!

6 minutes ago, CommunityRNBSN said:

I love vaccines. I get my flu shot every single year. My son has been vaccinated against every disease in existence. Am I going to be first in line for a vaccine that was rushed through development and production, that prevents an illness that I have a low risk of serious illness from? I am not. Give it a while and then I’ll happily take my shot but not during the first wave of recipients!

I also love and advocate for widespread immunization. I also agree that this is not the best time in American history to trust that the people in charge got it right on the first try.

Jory, MSN, APRN, CNM

Has 10 years experience.

Here is how I look at it...never before have we been faced with this type of decision. The COVID-19 virus is similar to other types of viruses that we do have vaccines for. So I am expecting a vaccine will get pushed through very quickly.

That is the ONLY reason I am going to be semi-OK taking it when it comes out. But maybe not with the current administration.

19 minutes ago, Jory said:

Here is how I look at it...never before have we been faced with this type of decision. The COVID-19 virus is similar to other types of viruses that we do have vaccines for. So I am expecting a vaccine will get pushed through very quickly.

That is the ONLY reason I am going to be semi-OK taking it when it comes out. But maybe not with the current administration.

I believe that we are in the same page. I live a remote lifestyle by choice. I'm going to just be the crazy guy from that little Alaska community who rarely goes to town but when he does he wears a mask and steps back when you step forward...until a safe and effective vaccine is available. I will decide on the safe and effective part. I wish that I felt differently and would rush to be among the first.

NurseSpeedy, ADN, LPN, RN

Has 19 years experience.

14 hours ago, Nursesusu said:

I'm old enough to remember the polio epidemic and what happened when the first vaccine was administered. I have to pass on a vaccine until it is proven to be safe.

I’m not that old but old enough to remember trials of bringing back the small pox vaccine when we thought it would possibly be used as bioterrorism after 9/11/01. Media showed a few young healthy people who volunteered for it and said they had never been so sick in their lives. Later the idea faded and the obsession with bringing back the vaccine went away-yet small pox did not come back with a vengeance and COVID19 doesn’t seem to be going away any time soon. Hopefully vaccination will be on a voluntary basis until we have a solid background on its safety. Just injecting crap into people hoping for the best is not going to help anyone unless its safe AND effective- if not effective then a false sense of security-like the current COVID19 antibodies test I hear so many patients say they’re getting (eye roll). Sure, hope you were asymptomatic but have a positive antibody test that may or may not be right? Put your damn mask on and shut up if you want elective care (no covid related health care).