When attending a traditional BSN program, are students told they're better than ADNs?

Would you like a stick to beat this dead horse with?

No, I wanna see 'the stick' removed from said nurses' behinds

We weren't told we were "better than ADN's" we were told that more education=better and that we should consider going on for a MSN. That said, sometimes I can tell if a new grad is ADN vs BSN... But past the initial several months or year, you usually can't tell who's what unless you look at their ID badge. So I say the debate of who is better prepared only applies to new grads... A drop in the bucket of your time in your career.

Now WHY would an instructor set out deliberately to insult any ADN's that might be in the class? We were just told that as medicine became more socialized, the initials behind your name will become more important. That was in 1972.

We weren't told we were "better than ADN's" we were told that more education=better and that we should consider going on for a MSN. That said, sometimes I can tell if a new grad is ADN vs BSN... But past the initial several months or year, you usually can't tell who's what unless you look at their ID badge. So I say the debate of who is better prepared only applies to new grads... A drop in the bucket of your time in your career.

This.

I am truly wondering which places are NOT fostering a philosophy of every member of the healthcare team has an important role...this philosophy I've seen for YEARS, even though a few sprinkles of RN better than LPN I've seen, but that told me about the nurse and sometimes the regional area they were from that dealt with a hierarchical system than the "team" approach-and it was fostered during their education as well.

I have yet to hear the "BSNs are better"; I'm usually offended by the chip on the shoulder thinking that I would be such a snob, as well any passive aggressive out down by a BSN peer; It stand more to me about the person, not the education...

I am going to guess that this depends on the school. When I returned for my RN-BSN program, we were definitely groomed to think that BSNs were better. We were told from day one that we were transitioning from “task oriented” nurses to “PROFESSIONAL” nurses. I still roll my eyes when I think about it.

A BSN is B.S. Nursing! I was in the field with two years' experience while they were writing research papers on how to do APA format. That does NOT make for better nursing, kids. There should be a clinical pathway for those of us who want to work, and n ivory tower pathway for those who want to promote more schooling. Who says more education equals better nursing? The schools...hellooooo! ADNs of the world be proud..we have an RN that is identical to any RN and don't forget that. Can we help it if we were savvy enough to skip the statistics and research crap? This is all for the sake of schools getting more money and hospitals trying to get magnet status. Trust me, no one really gives a rat's behind about us, any of us. It's all about the dollar.

Would you like a stick to beat this dead horse with?

This...

I rather hear yes or no answers...let's NOT go there...

A BSN is B.S. Nursing! I was in the field with two years' experience while they were writing research papers on how to do APA format. That does NOT make for better nursing, kids. There should be a clinical pathway for those of us who want to work, and n ivory tower pathway for those who want to promote more schooling. Who says more education equals better nursing? The schools...hellooooo! ADNs of the world be proud..we have an RN that is identical to any RN and don't forget that. Can we help it if we were savvy enough to skip the statistics and research crap? This is all for the sake of schools getting more money and hospitals trying to get magnet status. Trust me, no one really gives a rat's behind about us, any of us. It's all about the dollar.

Tthat's right! Envy me because I took more Humanities and Philosophy classes than you did! Haha.

I'm sure they imply it just like in RN school they imply that you're better than LPNs... Not intended to say you are better... Just more educated...

We weren't told we were "better than ADN's" we were told that more education=better and that we should consider going on for a MSN. That said, sometimes I can tell if a new grad is ADN vs BSN... But past the initial several months or year, you usually can't tell who's what unless you look at their ID badge. So I say the debate of who is better prepared only applies to new grads... A drop in the bucket of your time in your career.

I feel like if you think you can "tell" whose an ADN vs a BSN - holding Registered Nurse (and only sometimes at that) then you have got some preconceived notions. Who put them there?

People, I dont have a chip on my shoulder. Before these girls ever saw me work (all they really knew was my name and that Im a new RN) they prefaced getting to know me with 'Hi, I have a BSN. What about you??'

Yeah, that rubbed me the wrong way. Especially when I'M the new grad (ADN) RN and Im seeing them make silly mistakes that our nsg instructors would have failed us for. Its really annoying.