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50 minutes ago, Tweety said:

I guess it's a Georgia thing.  Who knew?

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/18/936096359/refusal-to-concede-an-election-isn't-a-new-concept-in-georgia

At this point it really doesn't bother me that Trump didn't concede. So I guess the answer to my question above would be no that I'm not bothered by Abrams.

 I'm bothered by the persistent belief without evidence and being able to prove it that he is the true winner and should be reinstated and that the election was rigged to make him lose.  

 

...it was a Trumper's concern that I was addressing...he thought it was important to mention that right now for some reason 

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32 minutes ago, Beerman said:

The CIA analyst in the video I provided earlier addresses that comment from Biden.  Brian William's tried to say Biden was taking responsibility.   Then that guy torched him for several minutes. 

 

Oh...the commentator torched him, eh? I bet that really excited the viewing base.  

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1 hour ago, Tweety said:

Kind of cool to read tweets from Sanders, AOC and conservatives agreeing with this sentiment that the priority is the safety of allies. Rare that they are on the same side.

Except for Ran Paul who said that the interpreters are not America's problem and should be left there.

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2 hours ago, Beerman said:

I don't think anyone is arguing that we should stay in Afghanistan.   

It seems the speed of which the Afghan govt collapsed and the Taliban took over wasnt a surprise to anyone except the Biden administration.

Instead of pointing fingers, Biden's speech should have been about how the US is going to get its citizens home and what we're going to do about the Afghans who helped us over the years who are now being left behind.

What a epic failure.

 

Yes it is.  I think our domination of world politics is over after the epic failure to handle the Covid epidemic.  This just kinda seals the deal.  But what would have been a good time to get out?  This situation is out of my pay grade but I think it's more like having a baby.  It's just a leap of faith that can go wonderfully right or terribly wrong.  It was NEVER going to end well under any circumstances.

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My only concern is for the Afghan women and children who I think have been amazingly courageous! Their men and incl Pakistani men etc have limited scope re how to behave. I know quite a few men from that area of the world and through no fault of their own, they haven't got the same range of masculine possibilities as Western men. They can only behave as their role models and what their 7th century religion allows them. 

We have the same Neanderthals here in America, except American men have every opportunity to expand their repertoire', but through sheer laziness and lack of consequences, they persist in their old patterns. Coumo is a prime example! 

Imran Khan in Pakistan is a great example of how difficult it will be to change. He's a thoroughly Western man who moved in circles that few Western men had access to and enjoyed the pleasures that probably only Idris Elba could have, except he's married, which leaves Imran Khan in a category of one. My father told me growing up, that men in England were very envious of Imran Khan and my mother who I have never seen swoon over anyone before, said he must have been the most good looking man of all times and that women in all parts of the world were likely in agreement with her. He is one of the few subjects she's passionate about. Our only equivalent in the male dept, according to her is probably John F Kennedy Jr. 

Anyway, even such a man seems unable to reign in Pakistan and I think he did Oxford, which if they weren't able to provide him with enough education (which is their specialty) (how to run countries and companies) to solve the Pakistani problem, it has to be enormously complex! 

My only problem is that Biden followed through with a trump idea which he should have known would fail, without much tweaking. This is now a powder keg of a situation with a lit fuse that will affect us seriously! I can extrapolate so many horrible scenarios because of the pull out. I think this is going to be a possible nightmare that will affect us for years! 

It's the reason we have to police the world with NATO's help. There's also serious money to be made unfortunately. I'm sorry, I'm a product of a capitalistic society! 

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15 minutes ago, subee said:

Yes it is.  I think our domination of world politics is over after the epic failure to handle the Covid epidemic.  This just kinda seals the deal.  But what would have been a good time to get out?  This situation is out of my pay grade but I think it's more like having a baby.  It's just a leap of faith that can go wonderfully right or terribly wrong.  It was NEVER going to end well under any circumstances.

That's right.  We now have pretty substantial evidence that the military is really bad at intelligence, training and assessing readiness of foreign troops and planning for withdrawal of assets from military interactions.  Why don't the things that our military tell us line up with reality? 

Importantly, military contractors had a hay day in Afghanistan.  They got to sell a crap ton of high grade military equipment and weapons to be destroyed or left to the Taliban.  The military presence there was very lucrative for those businesses. 

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1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Oh...the commentator torched him, eh? I bet that really excited the viewing base.  

I doubt that have excited Brian Williams' audience.

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36 minutes ago, subee said:

Yes it is.  I think our domination of world politics is over after the epic failure to handle the Covid epidemic.  This just kinda seals the deal.  But what would have been a good time to get out?  This situation is out of my pay grade but I think it's more like having a baby.  It's just a leap of faith that can go wonderfully right or terribly wrong.  It was NEVER going to end well under any circumstances.

I agree with all of the above. 

Trump set us up by letting the Taliban know we were going to leave.  But I agree with Biden that there was no real good time to carry that out.  It was going to be a catastrophe no matter what.  

It's Biden's catastrophe at this point.

 

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11 minutes ago, Beerman said:

I doubt that have excited Brian Williams' audience.

It apparently got your attention.  You even mentioned it in this thread.  

2 minutes ago, Tweety said:

I agree with all of the above. 

Trump set us up by letting the Taliban know we were going to leave.  But I agree with Biden that there was no real good time to carry that out.  It was going to be a catastrophe no matter what.  

It's Biden's catastrophe at this point.

 

Yep. He was willing to accept that heat.  It's nice to have an accountable president again rather than a liar and blame thrower like Trump. 

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20 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Yep. He was willing to accept that heat.  It's nice to have an accountable president again rather than a liar and blame thrower like Trump. 

Biden doesn't much talk about Trump.  Did you notice Trump is calling for his resignation after his handling over Afghanistan.  I didn't have the stomach to read the article.

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4 hours ago, GordonGekko said:

Georgia has a large precedence of the Alt-Left and black supremacists.  You have Abrams who still hasn’t conceded to Kemp and is fighting common sense laws that protect democracy.  You have armed black supremacists stopping. Vehicles like outside of Stone Mountain.  Why did the registration official resign in Fulton County?  Do you choose to ignore the clear evidence of fraud there?  It’s on video 

But in recent years, as the concept of voter identification has become broadly popular, the idea that voters bring some form of ID to the polls has been accepted by Democrats ranging from Senator Joe Manchin III of West Virginia on the center-right to Stacey Abrams of Georgia, a hero of the left.

“As I have always said, a person should have to confirm that they are who they are in order to vote,” Senator Raphael Warnock, a Democrat from Georgia and a key ally of Ms. Abrams, said in an interview. “What I get concerned about is when you say gun licenses are OK, when a student ID is not. Then I think any reasonable person has to ask, ‘Well, what’s that game?’”

The above if from the NYT.

It does support voter ID's so I'm not sure why you think she is thwarting democracy.  I did check voter ID's acceptable in Ga. and they seem reasonable. 

Stacy Abrams supports voter ID so what is it again she is doing to thwart democracy?  I checked out the Ga. ID requirements and I don't see them as onerous.  They even offer a free ID from the DMV.  I guess it's the battle of words about what is "acceptable."  Ga.'s requirements seem reasonable to me.  Is there something in them that makes you think if they were different there would be lesser voter fraud?

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12 minutes ago, Tweety said:

Biden doesn't much talk about Trump.  Did you notice Trump is calling for his resignation after his handling over Afghanistan.  I didn't have the stomach to read the article.

Trump is a rabble rouser and an inciter...he has nothing if he doesn't have his base angry or afraid.  

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