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33 minutes ago, Curious1997 said:

That's exactly what the point was. I might hate trump and what his administration did to us, but everyone deserves a chance, especially the children in that family [emphasis added]. 

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This is obvious.  I think some of you on the left have let your hatred of Mr. Trump more than cloud your judgment.  And what does any of what you posted here have anything to do with anyone having a chance?

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56 minutes ago, chare said:

This is obvious.  I think some of you on the left have let your hatred of Mr. Trump more than cloud your judgment.  And what does any of what you posted here have anything to do with anyone having a chance?

There's way more "hatred" assigned to those who oppose Trump than actually exists.  Conservatives use that language and way of thinking or describing behaviors much more frequently than its used by nonconservatives.  This could be attributed to the reality that conservative media uses the word "hate" much more frequently in their content when compared to other sources.  

His original point was likely that a liar and cheat should probably keep a low profile rather than publicly throwing shade over a stupid and unimportant published opinion. 

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1 hour ago, chare said:

This is obvious.  I think some of you on the left have let your hatred of Mr. Trump more than cloud your judgment.  And what does any of what you posted here have anything to do with anyone having a chance?

Actually I have never hated trump because he's dumb enough to be himself. It's the people who have facilitated his insanity for their own reasons and the end justifies the means rationale, that I hate. 

Trump is such a fool that he actually thought that he was using them, when it was the complete opposite! People like him are so easy to manipulate with his vanity and insecurity, except the controllers lost control of the madman and he's landed them into a world of investigations and possibly new legislations that will very likely not suit their needs. 

You reap what you sow! 

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13 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

There's way more "hatred" assigned to those who oppose Trump than actually exists.  Conservatives use that language and way of thinking or describing behaviors much more frequently than its used by nonconservatives.  This could be attributed to the reality that conservative media uses the word "hate" much more frequently in their content when compared to other sources.  

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I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this.  Had I opted to participate in some of the discussions during Mr. Obama's term, and likely to come during Mr. Biden's term, I could as appropriately use this term to describe the behavior displayed by many conservative members in their posts.  And, again I'll mention that I read sources ranging from extreme right bias to extreme left bias so this isn't based on the bias of my sources.

17 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

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His original point was likely that a liar and cheat should probably keep a low profile rather than publicly throwing shade over a stupid and unimportant published opinion. 

Then perhaps that is what he should have posted.

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10 minutes ago, chare said:

I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this.  Had I opted to participate in some of the discussions during Mr. Obama's term, and likely to come during Mr. Biden's term, I could as appropriately use this term to describe the behavior displayed by many conservative members in their posts.  And, again I'll mention that I read sources ranging from extreme right bias to extreme left bias so this isn't based on the bias of my sources.

Then perhaps that is what he should have posted.

Well, you are certainly welcome to use that inflammatory word "hate" to describe the majority of those who oppose Trump, even when they repeatedly use other words to describe their feelings.  It follows then, that you should have no concerns should one of those "haters" refer to conservatives, generally as Trump supporters...right? 

He posted as he preferred, I got the general drift of his comment so...

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28 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Well, you are certainly welcome to use that inflammatory word "hate" to describe the majority of those who oppose Trump, even when they repeatedly use other words to describe their feelings.  It follows then, that you should have no concerns should one of those "haters" refer to conservatives, generally as Trump supporters...right? 

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Not at all.  First, I think it important to remember that the member I quoted specifically stated that he "might hate trump."  Also, please note that I didn't make a general comment directed towards all Democrats.  I specifically stated that, in my opinion, there were some on the left, not all, that had "let [their] hatred" of Mr. Trump cloud your judgement.  I also stated that the same could apply to some on the right, which it indeed does.  

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2 minutes ago, chare said:

Not at all.  First, I think it important to remember that the member I quoted specifically stated that he "might hate trump."  Also, please note that I didn't make a general comment directed towards all Democrats.  I specifically stated that, in my opinion, there were some on the left, not all, that had "let [their] hatred" of Mr. Trump cloud your judgement.  I also stated that the same could apply to some on the right, which it indeed does.  

I actually also don't like Obama either. He did a great job re staving off the recession but his vanity kicked in and instead of dealing with Citizens United which even at my young age back then, was aware of how dangerous it was. He had for two years control of the houses and did nothing! 

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I don't think that Obama had the votes to challenge a Supreme Court decision even with the house and senate in Democrats hands.

It's even unlikely to be overturned by congress today.  But yeah the Supreme Court's decision was not our finest moment.  

People throw out the word "hate" so easily these days.  Saying that Democrats hate America if we criticize anything about this country such as the confederate flag.  

Trump is such a polarizing figure.  I tend to agree that there are some Democrats that have clouded judgement because of their hatred of him.  

I would venture to say that there's also an element of people, the people that took over the capital for instance, the one's that think he will be reinstated,  or the one's that say the storming of the capital was wrong but the election was still stolen, the one's that let him get away with literally thousands of lies and misstatements, whose judgement is clearly clouded.

........and we're still talking about him.

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2 hours ago, Tweety said:

.....and we're still talking about him.

We have to talk about him because Trump represents the clearest threat to our republic at this moment.  We don't have a vaccine that will make people immune to his lies and grifts. 

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I really hope Lena Khan and the FTC squashes facebook and fines them billions! Zuckerberg is just utter scum! 

Some NY times reporters were investigating how disinformation was spread on facebook, so their accounts were suspended because apparently facebook felt that despite the reporters only accessing business data using misinformation etc, facebook's clients rights were being trodden on. 

The most insidious company in the history of the world, with one of the most despicable CEOs of all time, who plundered people's privacy rights is worried when someone else is doing not even slightly what is their business practice throughout their existence? 

This mass murderer along with Murdock needs to rot in jail, but in this corrupt country of ours who only worship money, you know he will skate free because republicans will find a way to help him out! 

And GOD do I want Biden to discover someone who can reform the justice system especially re judges who in my opinion are the scorge of our democracy and one of the main reasons we are such amazing hypocrites! 

How many times do you hear judges instruct juries to ignore their emotions and be objective, when they the hypocrites incarnate, judge defendants, lawyers etc by how they dress, speak, conduct themselves instead of objectively evaluating the facts of the case! 

Can we do that in our profession? Dispense TX based on anything but the sxs? Can any professional get away with that legally? 

IMO judges should be banished to a room where they can only hear the cases and not view anyone and all cases should have a minimum of three judges in separate areas and from a different state so no bias can be accrued. 

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/10/12/zuckerberg-holocaust-denial-facebook/

Again as everyone knows I am a great proponent of extrapolation. 

If Zuckerberg with his limited education and experience, using his company to help propagate the holocaust deniers, because of profits obviously, WHAT ELSE has he been doing to undermine and endanger our rights and freedoms? 

His platform is about collecting information about people and then repurposing it to sell them initially his agenda and then company's products. Advertising! 

People get angry about the information, medical services etc have on them and the lax security. How many companies incl credit card and credit bureaus have been hacked? Yet facebook is doing this daily and with impunity and all from a private platform with only ONE, SINGLE person overseeing the business model. Now, you have political parties beholden because of advertising, which means legislative divisions are compromised! And he's a MORON! 

A greedy, lying, sociopath, with all that unchecked power! Today's wars are all about information! That's the power structure! Even Fox and other right wing organizations are beholden ultimately to their shareholders. Is facebook? 

 

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18 hours ago, chare said:

Not at all.  First, I think it important to remember that the member I quoted specifically stated that he "might hate trump."  Also, please note that I didn't make a general comment directed towards all Democrats.  I specifically stated that, in my opinion, there were some on the left, not all, that had "let [their] hatred" of Mr. Trump cloud your judgement.  I also stated that the same could apply to some on the right, which it indeed does.  

You've got it backwards - If you don't hold Trump in disrespect then you have no judgement.  His supporters, in general, are ignorant of the man before he was president,  or they would have realized that he is a lackey to the oligarchs that are depending on the government to add to their coffers on the backs of their employees.  Do you think Trump is on the continuum of Jesus or the continuum of Putin?  Don't his children raise any red flags for you?  Do they seem like reasonable or informed people.?  Does Ivanka, as either the daughter of Trump or as a shoe designer,  belong at the G20?  What did she have to do to get all those trademarks in China?  Is canned hunting for an endangered animal ever OK?  Does Eric sound like a thoughtful person to you?  How did Trump manage to raise 3 mutant children?  This is what people who hate Trump know as factual because we do our research before we vote for someone is is ostensibly defective.  There are several good reasons why they can no longer live in NYC, even before the botching of Covid pandemic.  There are reasons NYC put up a neon sign  letting them know not to come back.  And since you probably don't already know, Trump was 100% pro-choice and pro-governmental health care systems.  Yep.  Right up to the moment he decided to cast those aside to appease the evangelical checkbooks.  They threw their money at someone involved in over 4,000 lawsuits.  Doesn't that raise any questions for you?

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