What do you think about with current News and Opinions?

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Something to understand what nurses think about re the Current News and their opinions!

[No Stars In My Eyes, LPN]

It soooo feels like you can hardly trust anyone in public and/or professional life to not lie, cheat or steal. Story after story, every day, has me wondering "WHO can you trust? Who is trustworthy enough not to scam people? Which public figure is going to be exposed next? How do they think they can get away with everything?"

And most importantly --?-- if I was ever to win a sweepstakes or lottery, who could I trust to help with the financial stuff and not skim off my winnings?!

[subee, MSN, CRNA]

2 hours ago, NRSKarenRN said:

Stormy Daniels prior lawyer really flamed out....

ABC News

Michael Avenatti sentenced to 4 years in prison
 

 

This guy was a sleaze from the get-go; a total destined loser from the first time he got in front of a mic.  I wonder if he was on drugs or had big gambling debts.  

[toomuchbaloney]

What’s the far right trying to build power for?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/02/whats-far-right-trying-build-power/

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“At least a half-dozen current and former Proud Boys … have secured seats on the Miami-Dade Republican Executive Committee, seeking to influence local politics from the inside,” Patricia Mazzei and Alan Feuer report. “Their ranks include adherents who face criminal charges for participating in the Capitol attack.”
The report describes a pattern that should by now be familiar: Traditional Republican figures (here meaning people like former governor Jeb Bush) build institutional power, and outsider elements then appropriate that power. It’s the story of the GOP nationally in the era of Trump. Trump is an important example, though, because he’s also a reminder of what one can expect to happen next: The fringe becomes the establishment.

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What’s happening in Miami is a specific example of the phenomenon, but it’s happening elsewhere, too. In Northern California, right-wing politicians now hold a majority on a county board of supervisors following a successful recall effort. There has been a push since the 2020 election for far-right candidates to seek election to lower-ballot races, as well, particularly school boards.
Then, of course, there’s the push to influence elections themselves. The right’s push to have a more active supervisory and management role in voting and vote-counting has been well documented, but recent reports, including from Politico, make clear that there remains real energy aimed at influencing election outcomes. Much of this is motivated by sincere (if misguided) concern about the security of U.S. elections. Some of it is simply about securing or preserving power for the right, by any means necessary.

@chare this is what I'm referencing in response to your comment on the Biden thread. I'm not convinced that the average Republican voter can discern these disqualifying traits and beliefs in their local candidates so they are elevating extremists who are threatening our elections, and thus our republic.  Republicans appear to be making it legal for them to overturn elections to seize or retain power all across this country after the previous president attempted to retain his lost power, even using a mob to attack the capitol, overwhelm the police and stop the certification of the election while threatening to kill members of congress. 

I see this as one of the most pressing issues of today, relative to internal politics. The world should be concerned that the USA is at risk of devolving into a right wing authoritarian nation. Do you think that is a risk?

[toomuchbaloney]

Once eager to drill, oil companies exit leases in Arctic refuge 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2022/06/02/arctic-national-wildlife-refuge-drilling/

They companies wanting to fill are having trouble with delays in the permitting processes. Does the EPA own that? If so maybe they need more in the way of budget. 

[Justlookingfornow]

1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

What’s the far right trying to build power for?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/02/whats-far-right-trying-build-power/

@chare this is what I'm referencing in response to your comment on the Biden thread. I'm not convinced that the average Republican voter can discern these disqualifying traits and beliefs in their local candidates so they are elevating extremists who are threatening our elections, and thus our republic.  Republicans appear to be making it legal for them to overturn elections to seize or retain power all across this country after the previous president attempted to retain his lost power, even using a mob to attack the capitol, overwhelm the police and stop the certification of the election while threatening to kill members of congress. 

I see this as one of the most pressing issues of today, relative to internal politics. The world should be concerned that the USA is at risk of devolving into a right wing authoritarian nation. Do you think that is a risk?

So what's your recommendation? Dismantle the republican party? It's quite amusing that I see this "authoritarian" conspiracy theory type rhetoric from both sides aimed at each other. 

Both parties have decided like little children to dig their heels in and hold their breath. 

Instead of coming to agreements on how to better our country, they are more motivated to trying to discredit each other. Neither side will conceed to anything and everyday citizens suffer. 

[toomuchbaloney]

1 minute ago, Justlookingfornow said:

So what's your recommendation? Dismantle the republican party? It's quite amusing that I see this "authoritarian" conspiracy theory type rhetoric from both sides aimed at each other. 

Both parties have decided like little children to dig their heels in and hold their breath. 

Instead of coming to agreements on how to better our country, they are more motivated to trying to discredit each other. Neither side will conceed to anything and everyday citizens suffer. 

There's quite a bit more than just rhetoric to support the concern about the right wing extremism and white nationalism that is increasingly apparent in republican politics. I've provided examples and articles discussing this dangerous trend in GOP ideology. 

The "both parties" argument is smoke and mirrors, a false equivalency... or partisan rhetoric designed to normalize the corrupt and dangerous behaviors within the modern republican party.  

[Justlookingfornow]

4 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

There's quite a bit more than just rhetoric to support the concern about the right wing extremism and white nationalism that is increasingly apparent in republican politics. I've provided examples and articles discussing this dangerous trend in GOP ideology. 

The "both parties" argument is smoke and mirrors, a false equivalency... or partisan rhetoric designed to normalize the corrupt and dangerous behaviors within the modern republican party.  

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It's also just as amusing to hear that type of comment over and over. ....

A reasonable person would critique themselves just as much as they would critique their adversary.  I see very little from you other than republican party this  Trump that........ 

Unless you are proposing some sort of inserection to remove Republicans from our democratic republic, the democrats must respect and work with them. They are here to stay. Sorry. 

What would you propose we do about your precieved worries about the GOP? Storm the capital? 

[toomuchbaloney]

2 hours ago, Justlookingfornow said:

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It's also just as amusing to hear that type of comment over and over. ....

A reasonable person would critique themselves just as much as they would critique their adversary.  I see very little from you other than republican party this  Trump that........ 

Unless you are proposing some sort of inserection to remove Republicans from our democratic republic, the democrats must respect and work with them. They are here to stay. Sorry. 

What would you propose we do about your precieved worries about the GOP? Storm the capital? 

Insurrection? 

We should respect politicians who do not respect our republic and make excuses for an attempted coup while taking action which undermines our free and fair elections?

Storm the capitol?

Your hyperbole is noted as you minimize the efforts of Trump and his sycophants to undermines the 2020 election results by joking about it here...suggesting fantastically that somehow,  there is an obvious equivalency to the corruption of the two parties without offering anything beyond your amusement. 

What I have very clearly proposed is to vote for democrats until Republicans separate themselves from the extremists.  

[Justlookingfornow]

37 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Insurrection? 

We should respect politicians who do not respect our republic and make excuses for an attempted coup while taking action which undermines our free and fair elections?

Storm the capitol?

Your hyperbole is noted as you minimize the efforts of Trump and his sycophants to undermines the 2020 election results by joking about it here...suggesting fantastically that somehow,  there is an obvious equivalency to the corruption of the two parties without offering anything beyond your amusement. 

What I have very clearly proposed is to vote for democrats until Republicans separate themselves from the extremists.  

That's interesting. I didn't really mention Trump at all. Only in reference to you constantly complaining about him,the GOP.........

Hyperbole? Kinda of like referencing the Republican party and "white supremacy/nationalism" and "far right extremism"?. All the "go to"Democrat buzz words? 

The bottom line is, you do not like these "Republicans"? Don't vote for them,it's simple. If they are truly deplorable as you so often and repeatedly suggest, our democratic republic will vote them out. Unless maybe not all reasonably minded Americans subscribe the the "far left" propaganda tactics. Or you might claim that everyone who votes for them are "far right white nationalists" even the POC Republicans? So half the country subscribes to white supremacy? When does one become a "white supremacist, or a "nationalist". As soon as they check the vote ballot? How does one not become those things? Checking the Democrat vote ballot? Absolute nonsense! So how does one "separate themselves from the extremist"? Voting Democrat? 

Calling the GOP or Republicans  the party of "white supremacy" etc is  just as ridiculous as calling the democrats child grooming baby killers. See how dumb that sounds? People who vote democrat don't value the life of babies..... Except if they vote republican...... 

Propaganda 

[NRSKarenRN, BSN, RN]

5 minutes ago, Justlookingfornow said:

 When does one become a "white supremacist, or a "nationalist".

Business Insider

The Psychology Behind Why Someone Becomes a White Nationalist

White nationalism - Wikipedia
 

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White nationalism is a type of racial nationalism or pan-nationalism which espouses the belief that white people are a race[1] and seeks to develop and maintain a white racial and national identity.[2][3][4] Many of its proponents identify with and are attached to the concept of a white nation, or a "white ethnostate".[5

White nationalists claim that culture is a product of race, and advocate for the self-preservation of white people.[21] White nationalists seek to ensure the survival of the white race, and the cultures of historically white nations. They hold that white people should maintain their majority in mainly-white countries, maintain their dominance of its political and economic life, and that their culture should be foremost.[4] Many white nationalists believe that miscegenation, multiculturalism, mass immigration of non-whites and low birth rates among whites are threatening the white race, and some argue that it amounts to white genocide.[

In the United States a movement calling for white separatism emerged in the 1980s.[88] Leonard Zeskind has chronicled the movement in his book Blood and Politics, in which he argues that it has moved from the "margins to the mainstream".[89]

During the 1980s the United States also saw an increase in the number of esoteric subcultures within white nationalism. According to Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke, these movements cover a wide variety of mutually influencing groups of a radically ethnocentric character which have emerged, especially in the English-speaking world, since World War II. These loose networks use a variety of mystical, occult or religious approaches in a defensive affirmation of white identity against modernity, liberalism, immigration, multiracialism, and multiculturalism.[90] Some are neo-fascist, neo-Nazi or Third Positionist; others are politicised around some form of white ethnic nationalism or identity politics,[90] and a few have national anarchist tendencies. One example is the neo-tribalist paganism promoted by Else Christensen's Odinist Fellowship.[91] Especially notable is the prevalence of devotional forms and esoteric themes, so these subcultures often have the character of new religious movements....

 

 

[NRSKarenRN, BSN, RN]

McCormick concedes to Oz in Pennsylvania GOP Senate primary

By MARC LEVY, Associated Press - 1h ago
 

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...McCormick said he had called Oz to concede.

“It’s now clear to me with the recount now largely complete that we have a nominee,” McCormick said at a campaign party at a Pittsburgh hotel.

He added, “Tonight is really about us all coming together.”

Before the recount, Oz led McCormick by 972 votes out of 1.34 million votes counted in the May 17 primary. The Associated Press has not declared a winner in the race because an automatic recount is underway and the margin between the two candidates is just 0.07 percentage points.

Political pundints fear that Oz will not appeal to general population + especially independent voters as  Lt. Governor John Fetterman has visited all 67 PA counties and has appeal as the "common man".  Post CVA a week ago, Fettermans medical report released today -also has cardiomyopathy along with AFib.  Thats why had both pacemaker and AICD implanted.   Expected to make full recovery --two sons like him as Senator candidate.

added: So he stopped prior anticoagulants --- learned a lesson hard way.  Similar to my DH who ran out of 2 out of 3 BP meds Memorial Day WE 12 yrs ago (never told me), restarted on Tues after obtaining, CVA on Thursday.

Fetterman says he ‘almost died,’ but cardiologist says his prognosis, despite ignoring medical advice, is now good

[Justlookingfornow]

12 minutes ago, NRSKarenRN said:

Business Insider

The Psychology Behind Why Someone Becomes a White Nationalist

White nationalism - Wikipedia
 

 

Perfect. Now tell me one Republican that subscribes to that. 

Before you go there. 

Wanting safe boarders and restricting immigration is not white supremacy.  Voting against liberals is not white supremacy. There are many non white Republicans that want the same. What are they? 

I have yet to hear any republican say anything against multiculturalism or multiracialism. However I have heard some liberals insulting conservative Supreme Court justices for adopting black babies. And another because he's married to a white woman. 

There is non white people who think the exact same thing as described in your post. What are they? 

And so anyone who votes republican or is a conservative is a white supremacist? 

This is beyond ridiculous.