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On 5/14/2022 at 11:57 PM, Beerman said:I'm not convinced that Biden is to blame for the shortage. But, it's laughable to suggest that formula is being sent to the border in order to comply with some kind of law.
I'm not sure why it wouldn't be because of the law, but even if the law didn't exist I would hope it would be because it's pretty sadistic to detain infants and then starve them to death. How has agreeing with that become a political view?
13 hours ago, Beerman said:FL has a pending lawsuit, and this press release lays it out very well:
I agree that there are important discussions to be had about all aspects of immigration, but this sort of disinformation doesn't help that happen.
The "illegal immigrants" that the suit and various republicans are referring to are not actually illegal immigrants, they are those legally seeking to apply for asylum. Under current immigration law, the federal government is required to provide an asylum application hearing to anyone who seeks one.
The problem is that when there's a backlog in the ability to process these cases, the government only has two legal options; place them in a detention facility so long as they aren't full (and there's been no apparent interest in spending more on detention facilities), or release them pending a notice to appear for their hearing.
I think there are a number of things we should change, but that's not really possible when a major political party is intentionally keeping their followers in the dark about how the process actually works and what the laws actually are.
1 hour ago, Justlookingfornow said:I seem you have a hatred for Trump. I do not think Biden is a good president but I don't hate him. I would like him to do good things in his Presidency but not relish in the negatives. He's the POTUS, he fails, America fails. Seems self destructive.
I can find several negative Trump articles and negative Biden ones too. The bottom line is approx half the nation voted for Trump, more voted for Biden. I wouldn't tell the nation that half of them voted for terrible president on either side. As I say, the voters take the credibility in my opinion. Not a sea of negative analysis' for either of the two. The votes are a much more credible source in my opinion.
I wouldn't say that I hate Trump but I certainly despise what he represents. His lies about the 2020 election coupled with his attempts to undermine our democratic processes to retain lost power should be troubling to every patriot.
You can argue with historians and political scientists about how Trump performed but withholding military aid in an attempt to extort the Ukrainian president and then that whole election lie/ attempted coup are big clues that the fellow was not a good president... that's not even considering his unprecedented lying. I wouldn't say that the votes say much when some of those voters believe that Q was a truth teller and that Trump was draining the swamp.
4 hours ago, Tweety said:I think you're probably middle of the road with right leaning. Your post "Riots are okay for some but not.all. Protests are not riots depending on your beliefs or what's being protested. It's okay to discriminate against certain groups but not others. Some groups cannot be racist and other groups are racists determin..." about hypocrisy lead me to this thought.
But you can clarify that for me if you choose do or not.
That being said, just about every conservative on this forum when confronted with the unpleasantness of the violence on January 6th deflects to "what about the violence of BLM or other riots, which is that okay and this isn't" which you seemed to do. One thing I don't like, and I've called out liberals here because they do it often, a change of subject with a "well you're upset about this, but what about........" or "liberals would be outraged if Trump was president" so as to avoid the topic.
I'm middle of the road leaning to the left. I don't mind being liberal or woke or saying so. But I also don't mind acknowledging the flaws in people I vote for, or liberal policies that I don't like or calling out liberals here in these forums. For example, I think I got some posters to stop calling Trump childish names during his Presidency like "the Orange one" or "Cheeto" Such things have no place in mature discussion.
Wait,I'm confused. It's mostly a conservative view that some protest are riots and others are not depending on the political opinion?
That being racist to some groups is okay depending on their skin color is bad? And that determining someone is racist based on their skin color is wrong? That's more of a conservative trait?
So is it liberal leaning to believe that racism is okay sometimes?
5 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:What's happening at the justices homes is public and peaceful protest, that much is obvious. I'm not clear what rioting you were referencing.
I wasn't referencing any specific riot just some opinions on what is and what isn't.
Would it be acceptable for Christian pro life protesters to do the same to a Justice that presented a pro choice law? (Not a deflection to what if) I am interested.
1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:I wouldn't say that I hate Trump but I certainly despise what he represents. His lies about the 2020 election coupled with his attempts to undermine our democratic processes to retain lost power should be troubling to every patriot.
You can argue with historians and political scientists about how Trump performed but withholding military aid in an attempt to extort the Ukrainian president and then that whole election lie/ attempted coup are big clues that the fellow was not a good president... that's not even considering his unprecedented lying. I wouldn't say that the votes say much when some of those voters believe that Q was a truth teller and that Trump was draining the swamp.
Surely your not suggesting that half the country and/or the majority of Trump voters are Q radicals are you?
5 hours ago, Justlookingfornow said:Surely your not suggesting that half the country and/or the majority of Trump voters are Q radicals are you?
Half the country did not vote for Trump. Only 66% of eligible voters voted in the last presidential election, Trump received 47% of the votes. Trump received about 30% of eligible votes.
6 hours ago, Justlookingfornow said:I wasn't referencing any specific riot just some opinions on what is and what isn't.
Would it be acceptable for Christian pro life protesters to do the same to a Justice that presented a pro choice law? (Not a deflection to what if) I am interested.
We have quite a bit of experience with "pro-life" protesters, they've already proven that they can be aggressive and violent.
I believe that the 1st amendment allows public protest regardless of the status of the individual that might be the focus of the protest. We should test that law that says we cannot protest again justices and their thinking.
5 hours ago, Justlookingfornow said:Surely your not suggesting that half the country and/or the majority of Trump voters are Q radicals are you?
Do you think that my words made that claim? The word "some" is different from the word "most", right? No half of the country Isn't crazy, but do you think that half of republican voters might be? Just consider some of the crazy things they get caught up in believing... stolen election lies, CRT nonsense, book banning, wall building donations to conmen, pizza parlor pedophiles, birther conspiracy, death panels, deep state garbage, Biden/Ukraine propaganda, red flags and FEMA camp anxieties...I could go on and on. There is a pattern of fear mongering within conservative political circles, IMV.
6 hours ago, Justlookingfornow said:Wait,I'm confused. It's mostly a conservative view that some protest are riots and others are not depending on the political opinion?
That being racist to some groups is okay depending on their skin color is bad? And that determining someone is racist based on their skin color is wrong? That's more of a conservative trait?
So is it liberal leaning to believe that racism is okay sometimes?
I didn't say that.
I mean it's a spin that conservatives seem to like to do. For example "why are you complaining about the mostly peaceful protest on January 6th and not complaining about BLM riots?". (This one I've heard often and even though you didn't mention it specifically in your response to a known conservative here, it triggered my response that you lean conservative) "It's racist to say BLM when ALM". "You preach tolerance but are intolerant of another's opinion."......
I have heard of "Replacement Theory" before but haven't heard that's what this is what it's called, and didn't realize that the idea of becoming more entrenched in Americans. I think it's being talked about more because the shooter in Buffalo endorsed it in his manifesto.
There is no doubt that the switching of immigrants from Europe to now mostly the Southern Hemisphere, and the Latin America in particular is reshaping nearly every aspect of American culture and politics. That it's a deliberate plot, I can't buy into that.
QuoteNearly 1 in 3 Americans say they are extremely or very concerned that “native-born Americans are losing economic, political, and cultural influence in this country because of the growing population of immigrants,” according to recent polling from the Associated Press and NORC.
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Title 42 is part of a law that allows the suspension of processing asylum applicants, which is otherwise legally required. It is only allowed in order to prevent a serious disease from entering the US, which clearly no longer applies. Title 42 does not allow for closing the border to asylum seekers just for that purpose.
There is no doubt now a huge backlog is processing those seeking asylum and refugee status, which is largely the result of enacting Title 42, it's not something that if continued will fix the backlog problem.