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13 minutes ago, NRSKarenRN said:

Justice Amy Coney Barrett has 2 children adopted from Haiti so that has influenced her comment.

 

But what is her logic?  I understand that she has adopted kids but does that mean that women should become breeding stock for people who want to adopt?  

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One of my coworkers and her husband were childless for undisclosed reasons and went through a long and exhausting process and wait to adopt an infant.  Apparently there is a shortage of infants which is what people want.  Happy ending for my coworker as they adopted got an infant of another race and he's a happy soccer playing lucky kid.

So I suppose I can understand that forcing someone to deliver and consider putting the infant up for adoption would have a desirable outcome.

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The overall number of U.S. adoptions has dropped significantly in recent years, straining the viability of many adoption agencies and drawing some into conduct that authorities describe as unethical or worse. Would-be adoptive parents confront the specter of long waiting times and high fees. And many face pressure to spend lavishly on self-promotional advertising if they want to compete for a chance to adopt an infant.

Chuck Johnson, CEO of the National Council for Adoption, estimates that 1 million families are trying to adopt at any given time.

https://apnews.com/article/b9f77e34d24c4303af5d601d960dd661

However, I think for kids in foster care that aren't newborns the situation is a bit different, particularly for the handicapped and learning disabled.  They often age out without being adopted and become troubled adults.  

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/05/26/health/adoption-foster-care-wellness/index.html

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On 5/5/2022 at 8:19 PM, heron said:

See the guy who swallows Russian disinformation hook, line and sinker. No surprise that he tries to pretend there’s no such thing.

Hmmm … I wonder if Coney-Barrett realizes that forcing a woman to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term to benefit people who want to adopt amounts to slavery.

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I find it interesting that Fox New's website isn't covering the First Lady's trip to Ukraine when it's headline news other places.  I guess probably there isn't a way to spin it in a negative anti-Biden fashion?  Their top five stories are about Roe vs. Wade.  The main story being a "pro-abortion" protest.  I'm sure protests will be portrayed in a negative fashion by them.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/08/jill-biden-ukraine/

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Yes, well … population is power, isn’t it?

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11 minutes ago, Tweety said:

I find it interesting that Fox New's website isn't covering the First Lady's trip to Ukraine when it's headline news other places.  I guess probably there isn't a way to spin it in a negative anti-Biden fashion?  Their top five stories are about Roe vs. Wade.  The main story being a "pro-abortion" protest.  I'm sure protests will be portrayed in a negative fashion by them.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/08/jill-biden-ukraine/

I suppose it's worth a mention, but I don't think Jill Biden visiting Ukraine isn't all that newsworthy.  

Protesters marching to the homes of Justices...that should be portrayed negatively.

 

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17 hours ago, subee said:

But what is her logic?  I understand that she has adopted kids but does that mean that women should become breeding stock for people who want to adopt?  

 

1 hour ago, heron said:

Hmmm … I wonder if Coney-Barrett realizes that forcing a woman to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term to benefit people who want to adopt amounts to slavery.

Her comments were that she simply pointing out there are other options to abortion.

She certainly wasn't saying people should be forced to "breed" for others, or that anyone should be required to give up their baby after birth. 

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26 minutes ago, Beerman said:

 

Her comments were that she simply pointing out there are other options to abortion.

She certainly wasn't saying people should be forced to "breed" for others, or that anyone should be required to give up their baby after birth. 

Justifying forced pregnancy in order to produce infants available for adoption isn’t the only issue. Forced pregnancy in order to comply with the religious convictions of another person is slavery as well. Any forced pregnancy is slavery. Period.

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2 minutes ago, heron said:

Justifying forced pregnancy in order to produce infants available for adoption isn’t the only issue. Forced pregnancy in order to comply with the religious convictions of another person is slavery as well. Any forced pregnancy is slavery. Period.

What exactly is a "forced pregnancy"?  I've heard the term if course, but the definition seems to very.  What is yours?

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1 minute ago, Beerman said:

What exactly is a "forced pregnancy"?  I've heard the term if course, but the definition seems to very.  What is yours?

Any unwanted pregnancy that the pregnant woman would choose to terminate but for the interference of another party.

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14 minutes ago, heron said:

Any unwanted pregnancy that the pregnant woman would choose to terminate but for the interference of another party.

So, does that mean a pregnant person should be able to terminate any time up until the birth?

Barret and SCOTUS aren't saying that abortion should be outlawed.  Only that the states should decide for themselves.

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12 minutes ago, Beerman said:

So, does that mean a pregnant person should be able to terminate any time up until the birth?

Barret and SCOTUS aren't saying that abortion should be outlawed.  Only that the states should decide for themselves.

No … and I don’t know of anyone who advocates for abortion on demand up until birth. That’s a favorite mischaracterization beloved by the forced pregnancy movement … supposed to be some kind of gotcha, I guess.

The question of when the life of a fetus as a separate human being begins is at core of the issue. At the time of Roe v. Wade, our best guess was 24 weeks gestation. Thus the limit on when abortion is legal. There are many opinions about when separate identity begins, but that’s the only one that doesn’t depend on religious doctrine or personal preferences of people other than the pregnant woman herself.

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