What do you think about with current News and Opinions?

[guest1163268]

Something to understand what nurses think about re the Current News and their opinions!

[Tweety, BSN, RN]

2 hours ago, Beerman said:

The first original story says how they had the exclusive information.   Are you sure you don't have anything new to learn?

Wow..SMH..."it wasn't a big deal" because it was censored, suppressed, or whatever.  Big Tech made it so people wouldn't see it on social media, and the MSM dismissed it, mocked it, etc.

Joe Scarboutough's view on it at the time:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/10/15/scarborough_ny_posts_hunter_biden_story_obviously_made_up_stupidest_october_surprise_ever.html

 

I never said I didn't have a lot to learn, obviously I do because I posted the article that went on many tangents. When I think of it it does make sense that it was that of all the news organizations out there it was New York Post that got the "smoking gun".   I do wonder why he didn't give to a bigger organization like Fox.  

So that "smoking gun" hasn't quite brought Hunter Biden down in a year and a half yet. But it may yet because apparently the investigation is ramping up.

I'll let you call me out on "not making a big deal out of it" and let you call it "censored, suppressed, or whatever".

I take it back, Fox News is jumping on the story.  Fair enough, you and Fox et al can make a big deal of it.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/washington-post-hunter-biden-laptop-story-coverage

Vox is saying not censorship but "treated the material with caution--"  I had to LOL at after reading what you call it.

Quote

 The mainstream media generally treated the material with caution — and, perhaps most controversially of all, Twitter and facebook blocked or restricted links to the Post’s story.

Now, conservatives interpreted last week’s Times report as a belated concession that the leaked material was authentic, and they’re taking a victory lap. “The Times finally admits: Hunter’s laptop is real,” the New York Post editorial board crowed.

https://www.vox.com/22992772/hunter-biden-laptop

Again, like I usually do in cases where there is a speculation and conspiracy, I say just prove it.  You remember I said this about the claims of Trump winning the election.  It would hurt tremendously but prove it too me please and I can deal with it.  I also kept reserved during the accusations of collusion and accepted what was handed down in the investigation.  

But this from the article as well....

Quote

But the emails were indeed being put out as part of an orchestrated campaign by Trump’s team to try to drive negative media coverage toward Joe Biden shortly before the election. And whatever the revelations about Hunter, claims from conservatives that the leaked emails proved Joe Biden acted corruptly in some way were false — they proved no such thing.........There is no obligation for media outlets to run with conveniently timed opposition research pushed by one presidential candidate’s team shortly before an election.

https://www.vox.com/22992772/hunter-biden-laptop

 Speculation and suspicion are all some people need when it comes to believing claims about Biden while many of those same people ignore actual evidence of Trump's abuse of power, abundant lies, incompetence in handling a national public health emergency, corruption and intentions to undermine the 2020 election results...as evidenced by comments in these very threads over the past several years.  

[Tweety, BSN, RN]

37 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

 Speculation and suspicion are all some people need when it comes to believing claims about Biden while many of those same people ignore actual evidence of Trump's abuse of power, abundant lies, incompetence in handling a national public health emergency, corruption and intentions to undermine the 2020 election results...as evidenced by comments in these very threads over the past several years.  

Well it kind of is two sides to the same coin.  It makes sense that someone that believes Trump's lies that he won the election, would also believe a wild conspiracy and speculation about the Bidens.  

At this point myself I can only just trust the process and the ongoing investigation.  That if he and Biden were shady it comes out and is dealt with appropriately.  

1 hour ago, Tweety said:

Well it kind of is two sides to the same coin.  It makes sense that someone that believes Trump's lies that he won the election, would also believe a wild conspiracy and speculation about the Bidens.  

At this point myself I can only just trust the process and the ongoing investigation.  That if he and Biden were shady it comes out and is dealt with appropriately.  

Yes. It's evidence of propaganda and indoctrination influencing our conservative family and friends in the same way that current events affect ours. 

[Tweety, BSN, RN]

This story is about a 1 on a scale of 10.

I believe the young congressman.  The only thing he's guilty of is spilling the tea.  Personally he perhaps should have kept quiet about judgement of his peers.  Time will come, he'll slip up and it will come back to haunt him.

 https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/30/house-republican-leaders-meet-with-rep-madison-cawthorn-after-comments-about-orgy-invitation-drug-use/?fbclid=IwAR0WirJaUNq-V60Ar2VQPyPCkvNViuWOiIyewGup2mLQ8X3dly9fDjmwHgk

On the other hand I can get when people you respect let you down.  I grew up Catholic and met a priest that kept a (legal age) "assistant" as a boy toy and drank to oblivion.  I was friends with the assistant.  So you do hold some people, like congresspersons to a higher level of standards.  But you don't necessarily spill the tea. 

He has been accused of sexual misconduct, he's been arrested for driving with a suspended license and tried to bring a weapon on a plane.  He's pro-Trump so of course he got elected with these fine qualifications at age 25.  

Cawthorn is known to say controversial things like calling Zelensky a "thug".  He craves attention.

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/madison-cawthorn-paralympics/

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/addybaird/madison-cawthorn-sexual-misconduct-allegations-patrick

[subee, MSN, CRNA]

6 hours ago, Tweety said:

I'l confess the NY Post to me just didn't seem a good source to get information about Hunter Biden.  How is it that they of all organizations had exclusive information and the smoking gun.     I did click your link, and it wasn't new news to me and I wasn't one of those that dismissed the Hunter Biden story reflexly but didn't use NY Post for my information.  

Their headline today, like Fox News, is about Will Smith.  They are not a source I got do ever.  It's an important story because Smith is known to not like Trump and is part of the much disliked "Hollywood Elite".  

That's a good article about mainstream media's issues with publishing information they don't necessarily want to believe.   Still the Hunter Biden story was out there and not censored but obviously wasn't a big of deal as it was on Fox and NY Post, so point taken.  

The timing of the Trump phone call I think is what's suspect.  He became concerned about Hunter Biden only when his father became a serious opponent to be drug down.  But if bringing attention to Hunter Biden exposes criminal behavior it's fair.

 

The NY Post...snort, snort.  Are the Russians so stupid they would do business with a crack head?  Hunter Biden is not an elected official.  It the Trumpers are still commanded to make this an issue then I guess they need to be told no let it go.  Anybody in a receiving line can say they "met" Joe Biden.  That doesn't mean that they actually conducted any business.

Isn't Cawthorn just another example of the Trump effect within the Republican party? Some of these recently elected Republicans appear to have deep, wide and long term problems with ethics, honesty, morality, or common sense.  

Apparently, McCarthy has said that he's lost trust and is going to have a talk with the young republican.  Matt Gaetz is probably furious about Cawthorn's remarks given that it's been reported that he shared some sexually related photos in the congressional chambers and is under investigation for sex trafficking or similar. 

[Tweety, BSN, RN]

1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Isn't Cawthorn just another example of the Trump effect within the Republican party? Some of these recently elected Republicans appear to have deep, wide and long term problems with ethics, honesty, morality, or common sense.  

Apparently, McCarthy has said that he's lost trust and is going to have a talk with the young republican.  Matt Gaetz is probably furious about Cawthorn's remarks given that it's been reported that he shared some sexually related photos in the congressional chambers and is under investigation for sex trafficking or similar. 

He probably has some of them shaking in their shoes worried they are going to be exposed.  Not only Republicans but Democrats too.  Whenever there are men in power and with money, there's sex and drugs.  I wouldn't guess it's rampant, but I'm sure it happens.  

There were plenty of stories from Wall Street about sex and drugs.  I'm sure Washington is no better.  Remember the hackers that revealed people on the dating site "Ashley Madden", some of them had .gov addresses.  

[MunoRN, RN]

11 hours ago, Beerman said:

You did here about the Trump phone call, didn't you?  The one that led to impeachment hearings?  Funny how many are unaware of what led to that phone call.

Most haven't been following, because the original story was censored by the MSM and Big Tech.  

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/03/27/mainstream-media-disinformation-hunter-biden/

And, his father was involved.  The elder Biden literally bragged about his involvement.

https://www.maciverinstitute.com/2022/03/the-hunter-biden-story-was-always-about-joes-corruption/

The original story, from the NY Post:

https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/

For those who take time to understand and instead of reflexivly dismiss it, it's actually not very complicated.  

 

Are you under the impression that any of the new Hunter Biden revelations somehow makes Trump's call to Zelensky not a threat to withhold military aid in exchange for personal political gain?  What would that be exactly?

[MunoRN, RN]

10 hours ago, Beerman said:

According to this study, a significant number of excess votes were cast in 2020.  

"Lott, who runs the Crime Prevention Research Center, said that his report was not meant to overturn the 2020 election but to reinforce the need for changes to voter identification, absentee voting, and provisional ballots.

“The point of this work isn’t to contest the 2020 election, but to point out that we have a real problem that needs to be dealt with. Americans must have confidence in future elections,” he wrote."

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/washington-secrets/new-report-255-000-excess-votes-for-biden-in-six-key-2020-states

"Study" is a bit of a stretch.

Quote

Another focus of the Trump team’s accusations was the processing of absentee ballots in key states that Biden narrowly won. Among other claims, they alleged that Fulton County, GA, and Allegheny County, PA, were major centers of voter fraud in the 2020 election. Most of these allegations relied upon hearsay affidavits or debunked videos purportedly showing voters stuffing ballots. But in a paper posted in late December 2020, Lott (20) claims to provide statistical evidence that irregularities in the absentee vote counting procedure in Fulton County and Allegheny County suppressed votes for Trump and bolstered Biden’s vote count. Lott examined precincts along the border of Fulton and Allegheny Counties and argued that he detected anomalous support for Biden in his absentee ballot share relative to his in-person share of ballots in Fulton and Allegheny Counties. Lott’s paper received immediate and widespread attention. Peter Navarro, Assistant to the President and Director of the Office of Trade and Manufacturing Policy, touted the claim as solid evidence of fraud. President Trump tweeted out a link to the paper.

Lott’s claims, however, do not withstand scrutiny. Using Lott’s own data, we show in SI Appendix, section G that the specification he uses to analyze absentee voting patterns produces different conclusions depending on the entirely arbitrary order in which counties are entered in the dataset. Briefly, Lott posits that, if absentee ballots were correctly handled, the difference in Trump support across a boundary that separates a Democratic county from a Republican county should be similar to the difference in Trump support across a boundary that separates one Republican county from another. But Lott’s conclusion depends entirely on the order in which the differences are computed for the Republican–Republican pairs. The conclusion is reversed when an alternative and equally justified order is used.

No evidence for systematic voter fraud: A guide to statistical claims about the 2020 election | PNAS

[Tweety, BSN, RN]

9 hours ago, MunoRN said:

Are you under the impression that any of the new Hunter Biden revelations somehow makes Trump's call to Zelensky not a threat to withhold military aid in exchange for personal political gain?  What would that be exactly?

I don't think that was said or implied.  Pretty much even congress agreed it was wrong of Trump to do that, but it was not an impeachable offense.  What I think was meant was that Trump somehow knew Hunter Biden was corrupt and wanted that exposed.   The bottom line behind that Hunter Biden was corrupt and that got lost in what Trump did.

[Tweety, BSN, RN]

Back to oil.

Quote

Just 6% of executives polled by the Dallas Fed pointed to government regulations as the primary reason publicly-traded oil companies are restraining production growth. 

Another 11% pointed to environmental, social and governance (ESG) issues. The ESG movement has led many investors to shy away from fossil fuel companies in favor of clean energy ones. 

About 15% of executives said "other" factors were to blame, including personnel shortages and supply-chain problems.

But then the article goes on to say.

Quote

Still, multiple executives surveyed expressed significant concern about regulations and rhetoric on the industry coming from the federal government as well as individual states such as Colorado.

"The message from the White House, Capitol Hill and Wall Street has been that oil and gas is a dying industry and one that needs to be abandoned," one survey respondent said. That executive pointed to "serious workforce issues" that are being driven in part by the "vilification" of the oil-and-gas industry. 

"Regulation is significantly hurting and hampering US energy production," another executive said.

Of course it's the War on Oil and the one executive that that says "significantly during and hampering...." that right wing media would cling to. Still as we've discussed the driving force does seem to be shareholder profit or spending, out of being stung by a downturn.  Kind of a "get it while you can" attitude because the future might not be oil.  As someone whose future livelihood is in the Stockmarket, I can understand that kind of pressure.  

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/24/energy/gas-prices-oil-production-wall-street/index.html