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20 hours ago, Beerman said:

I wonder if anyone can corroborate WaPo's description of the crowd?

I think that's a subjective view for the WaPo to say "many" when describing the crowd.  But don't blame them for including them in the article.  I think it is a habit of the press to describe the fringe at protests.  They get the attention. 

Kind of like the drag queens and go go boys always get the press at Pride parades.

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Some participants likened the DC area to enemy territory and said corrupt politicians are looking for an excuse to wield their power and arrest the truckers. Some pointed to the people arrested after the Jan. 6 riots, whom they referred to as political prisoners.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/paulmcleod/trucker-convoy-washington-dc-beltway?fbclid=IwAR1xHzJ1X6pMB2TlTlMNdSozEd9TTzkyvNypfRe5gxC18iipBd5gP14J4dE

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19 minutes ago, subee said:

New York City was lifting mandates before the truck convoy.  What is it that you think they accomplished except to have a party?  NYC's decision was based on the Covid numbers, not the truckers.  

Sorry about not being clear.  My posting about NYC was after I made this point

"I think as covid rages on and becomes a part of our lives support for vaccinate mandates are going to dissipate and it's a good time to protest them."

and not to say that the truckers caused this, but that it's a good time to protest those still in place.

 

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Just now, Tweety said:

Sorry about not being clear.  My posting about NYC was after I made this point

"I think as covid rages on and becomes a part of our lives support for vaccinate mandates are going to dissipate and it's a good time to protest them."

and not to say that the truckers caused this.  

People are getting weary of covid, restrictions and mandates.    

That doesn't mean we have to throw away public health measures because people can't accept reality.  If, or when, a new varient occurs will we have to go through all the trauma again from people who react like 12 years olds from any discomfort they might have to suffer?  Should we tolerate them clogging up bridges and cities because they are tired of ...what exactly?  The only thing limiting anything I want to do now is the boiler place ice under the snow:)  I'm just mentioned that, not whining about it.  Our district public health administrator just left her job because she couldn't tolerate the threats anymore.  Someone at a school board meeting last night described mask mandates as a "crime against humanity."  What network do you think they watch on TV?

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18 minutes ago, subee said:

That doesn't mean we have to throw away public health measures because people can't accept reality.  If, or when, a new varient occurs will we have to go through all the trauma again from people who react like 12 years olds from any discomfort they might have to suffer?  Should we tolerate them clogging up bridges and cities because they are tired of ...what exactly?  The only thing limiting anything I want to do now is the boiler place ice under the snow:)  I'm just mentioned that, not whining about it.  Our district public health administrator just left her job because she couldn't tolerate the threats anymore.  Someone at a school board meeting last night described mask mandates as a "crime against humanity."  What network do you think they watch on TV?

What kinds of threats was she receiving?  Threats to her life?  That's an outlier.  But yes, it's ugly out there.  It all comes down again to the idea that no matter what network they are watching they feel they are defending constitutionally guaranteed rights and freedoms which includes the freedom to gather, to not wear a mask, and to not be vaccinated.  

Stalemate.

I have plenty of friends with guns, they don't watch Fox News.  I would be that most of those showing up for protests do watch Fox News, but not all people that are for the freedom not to choose a vaccine watch Fox News.  Take minorities for example.  

Omicron has shown that the vaccinated can get it and spread it.  Obviously the vaccinated are in a better position to not get sick and hospitalized.  Still, it's time to end mandates and move on.  In my opinion.

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19 minutes ago, Tweety said:

What kinds of threats was she receiving?  Threats to her life?  That's an outlier.  But yes, it's ugly out there.  It all comes down again to the idea that no matter what network they are watching they feel they are defending constitutionally guaranteed rights and freedoms which includes the freedom to gather, to not wear a mask, and to not be vaccinated.  

Stalemate.

I have plenty of friends with guns, they don't watch Fox News.  I would be that most of those showing up for protests do watch Fox News, but not all people that are for the freedom not to choose a vaccine watch Fox News.  Take minorities for example.  

Omicron has shown that the vaccinated can get it and spread it.  Obviously the vaccinated are in a better position to not get sick and hospitalized.  Still, it's time to end mandates and move on.  In my opinion.

Its not really an "outlier" in this current era for public health workers to receive threats of violence alongside the harassment from angry conservatives. It's another example of gullible people influenced by angry propaganda and then deciding to take some action on those feelings of anger.  There has been widespread reporting on it. 

 

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15 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Its not really an "outlier" in this current era for public health workers to receive threats of violence alongside the harassment from angry conservatives. It's another example of gullible people influenced by angry propaganda and then deciding to take some action on those feelings of anger.  There has been widespread reporting on it. 

 

True enough.  I guess not working in covid or education I'm a bit out of the loop.  I certainly don't want to minimize the threats and actual violence people have undergone.

While I certainly understand the desire for freedom of choice, threatening and committing violence towards those trying to protect you isn't right.

 

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1 hour ago, Tweety said:

What kinds of threats was she receiving?  Threats to her life?  That's an outlier.  But yes, it's ugly out there.  It all comes down again to the idea that no matter what network they are watching they feel they are defending constitutionally guaranteed rights and freedoms which includes the freedom to gather, to not wear a mask, and to not be vaccinated.  

Stalemate.

I have plenty of friends with guns, they don't watch Fox News.  I would be that most of those showing up for protests do watch Fox News, but not all people that are for the freedom not to choose a vaccine watch Fox News.  Take minorities for example.  

Omicron has shown that the vaccinated can get it and spread it.  Obviously the vaccinated are in a better position to not get sick and hospitalized.  Still, it's time to end mandates and move on.  In my opinion.

Who is still being mandated at this point?  Is this a real issue?  Why would you even mention that Omicron is still transmissible with vaccinated people?  Of course it's true but what does that add to fact that all people should be vaccinated.  That is part of the right wing script that vaccines are useless.

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45 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Its not really an "outlier" in this current era for public health workers to receive threats of violence alongside the harassment from angry conservatives. It's another example of gullible people influenced by angry propaganda and then deciding to take some action on those feelings of anger.  There has been widespread reporting on it. 

 

Maryland has even proposed creating a law to help curb this phenomenon in their state.  People bought guns into the Michigan capital building to protest mitigation efforts.  Public health officials  everywhere, including Canada, have left in droves because of the danger of physical threats.

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political science is not a science. cannot be replicated, not predictive of election results, nor having any substantive base. 

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The dark, unsettling truths behind Biden’s reluctance to ban Russian oil 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/03/07/biden-oil-ban-russia-blinken-ukraine/

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We all know exactly what will happen if President Biden goes through with plans to ban imports of Russian oil amid mounting horrors in Ukraine, as he has been reluctant to do. The same Republicans loudly demanding this step will turn around and attack Biden over any resulting economic fallout.
Republicans are already telegraphing this intention, and this is to be expected from today’s GOP. But the very fact that Biden and Democrats are vulnerable to such a bad-faith ploy in the first place points to dark and unsettling truths about our politics in various unexpected ways.

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But now the pressure from lawmakers is intensifying. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) says the House might vote on legislation banning Russian oil imports this week. Many others in both parties are calling for the same.
This has put Biden in a jam. As the Wall Street Journal reports, Republicans are both calling for this ban while also attacking Biden over inflation and already-high gas prices. The Journal suggests that if this ban goes ahead and drives gas prices even higher, Republicans will attack Biden over this, boosting their chances of taking control of Congress.

We can see what they are planning and setting in motion ...

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As absurd as this is, it poses a serious problem. And this points to deeply unsettling dynamics in our politics.
First, it seems predictable that media outlets might largely let this bad faith slide. For instance, a New York Times piece reports on the schizophrenia underlying the GOP approach, and notes in passing that it rests on a substantively flimsy case, but then turns around and suggests it’s “unifying" Republicans and could be “potent” in the midterms.
Get ready for more like this: The mere fact that Republicans are using something as political ammunition justifies treating their claim about it like a newsworthy and thus respectable argument, regardless of how painfully ridiculous it is.

As usual, media plays an important part in the corrupted messaging. 

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30 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

The dark, unsettling truths behind Biden’s reluctance to ban Russian oil 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/03/07/biden-oil-ban-russia-blinken-ukraine/

We can see what they are planning and setting in motion ...

As usual, media plays an important part in the corrupted messaging. 

From the article: "It might be argued that Biden will have to communicate those stakes to the American people to get them to accept the sacrifice of higher gas prices to achieve that higher aim"

He had a chance last week, if not sooner to do this.  The State of the Union woud have been a great opportunity  to go in front of the American people and explain that he was banning Russian oil, and why.   He also could have talked about the need to open up drilling.  He could have spoken about how it'll be tough for awhile with higher prices,  people unhappy about drilling, etc.  He has access to or can to some of the best speechwriters in the world to deliver this message.

That was his chance to be a leader, take the air out of the Republican's baloon, and to do what is necessary and is simply the right thing.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, subee said:

Public health officials  everywhere, including Canada, have left in droves because of the danger of physical threats.

What is the definition to you "in droves"? 

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