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2 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

You've just discovered some new things that many of us knew already and now you believe there's a big cover-up because it's been suggested that there's a big cover-up as your media exposed you to old news with new speculation and "questions" that are based in suspicion rather than evidence.  As a side note, you haven't actually proven that anything was "suppressed"...that's just the right wing spin.  You know that, right?

Somebody's going through a backlog of Daily Mails.  Maybe the butterflies moving freely back and forth across the border in Texas had something to do with it.  At least that would be a possibility under the Chaos Theory.

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22 minutes ago, Tweety said:

How about The BBC or the above referenced Lancet?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-57268111

I think with the issue being theorized, investigated and studied, the scientific community really doesn't have a consensus like they do say on human involvement in climate change.  So I'm not sure there is a cover up, but rather much not to report.

But I can also understand..."It might have come from a lab, the US has funded that lab (and at first was hesitant to admit it) and Fauci is in charge of funding....hmmmmm.." 

From the beginning, it has been my expressed opinion on this forum that we will never have an answer to the above question.  I don't have to be a virologist to read enough reports that the only prove that the virologists can't provide an answer.  We need to move on to more important issues, like getting the country to get vaccinated and stop making an *** of ourselves to the world.

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On 2/3/2022 at 1:15 PM, subee said:

Do you think they are grooming anyone else besides DeSantis?  I don't know the answer to this but I'm just curious who you think the candidates for the nomination will be? ...

I'm not sure that they're "grooming" Mr. DeSantis, yet.  For some reason, many in the Republican party are waiting with bated breath on Mr. Trump's decision whether he is going to run.  And if he doesn't choose to run again, who he is going to try and elevate as successor.  If the latter, unfortunately I don't think there will be much competition.

On 2/3/2022 at 1:15 PM, subee said:

... BTW, Dana Milbank's column on 2/1 was devoted to DeSantis wannabe Glenn Youngkin's desire to re-write history so that white kids won't get offended.  His quotes were from a textbook used in Virginia in the 1950's describing how lovely the slaves were treated, how little work was required from a house slave and how kindly they were  cared for by their owners.  I guess THIS is the history DeSantis and Youngkin wants to teach the students of their respective states (talk about cancel culture) so that they won't have to be "uncomfortable." ...

After reading Mr. Milbank's column, I'm not sure how you've come to this conclusion.  

On 2/3/2022 at 1:15 PM, subee said:

... I could never vote for anyone who advocates changing historical narratives so I'll say NO to Ron now. ...

Assuming you are referring to changing the historical narrative because you don't like it, as opposed to a factual change based on newly discovered information, then yes, I tend to agree with this.

On 2/3/2022 at 1:15 PM, subee said:

... I don't know if it's possible for anyone honorable left in the party to even run, knowing that they will never get the nomination. ...

Unfortunately, I have to agree with you on this.  I'm still gobsmacked at the hold that Mr. Trump has on the Republican party, and am unsure if the party will ever be able to shake this hold.

On 2/3/2022 at 1:15 PM, subee said:

... Oh how I dread the 2024 election cycle:( 

I couldn't agree with this more, and find it tragic that during the last several election cycles, at all levels, that we've mostly been forced to choose the lesser of two evils, rather than the best candidate for the job.

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4 minutes ago, chare said:

I'm not sure that they're "grooming" Mr. DeSantis, yet.  For some reason, many in the Republican party are waiting with bated breath on Mr. Trump's decision whether he is going to run.  And if he doesn't choose to run again, who he is going to try and elevate as successor.  If the latter, unfortunately I don't think there will be much competition.

After reading Mr. Milbank's column, I'm not sure how you've come to this conclusion.  

Assuming you are referring to changing the historical narrative because you don't like it, as opposed to a factual change based on newly discovered information, then yes, I tend to agree with this.

Unfortunately, I have to agree with you on this.  I'm still gobsmacked at the hold that Mr. Trump has on the Republican party, and am unsure if the party will ever be able to shake this hold.

I couldn't agree with this more, and find it tragic that during the last several election cycles, at all levels, that we've mostly been forced to choose the lesser of two evils, rather than the best candidate for the job.

It is the popular narrative that we choose between two evils.  I call bullsh%+. 

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9 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

It is the popular narrative that we choose between two evils.  I call bullsh%+. 

You think Joe Biden was the best man our country could come with at this time?  Still proudly driving around with that Biden - Harris sticker in your window?

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54 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

It is the popular narrative that we choose between two evils.  I call bullsh%+. 

In the literal sense, you are correct.  But in actual practice, I disagree.  Trump was truly evil but Biden was just not what I wanted for the other choice!  I agree that he is not evil but a victim of his times.  We needed someone younger who could take on two terms in case we were ever able to sideline the craziest of the Republicans who are literally, holding back what we have left of civilized discourse.

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57 minutes ago, Beerman said:

You think Joe Biden was the best man our country could come with at this time?  Still proudly driving around with that Biden - Harris sticker in your window?

I don't drive around with political advertising or statements on my vehicle. Do you? There are some here in the interior who do and they are sometimes aggressive and inappropriate when they see political messaging that they don't like.

Whether a candidate was best wasn't the premise though, was it? The premise was choosing between two evils and I disagree.  

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24 minutes ago, subee said:

In the literal sense, you are correct.  But in actual practice, I disagree.  Trump was truly evil but Biden was just not what I wanted for the other choice!  I agree that he is not evil but a victim of his times.  We needed someone younger who could take on two terms in case we were ever able to sideline the craziest of the Republicans who are literally, holding back what we have left of civilized discourse.

As I said, I think the notion that we are choosing between two evils is a contrived narrative.  One could easily surmise that the notion that the corruption, dishonesty and dangerous ideologies are equally distributed among available candidates is cover for the obvious corruption, dishonesty and dangerous ideologies elevated by one of the two main political parties.  The press loves that kind of illusion that corruption is equally tolerated and distributed in the parties and their members.  

There were not two evil people running for the presidency in 2016. In fact, one of them was a battle tested and very experienced politician...known and respected across the globe.  Some very respectable and credible people considered Trump's opponent in 2016 to have been the most qualified and best vetted candidate to ever seek the office.  Similarly, Biden isn't evil. Neither was Obama or Kerry. All of that is the language of propaganda that is accepted by our "responsible" journalists.  The toxic effect is insidious.  

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1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

It is the popular narrative that we choose between two evils.  I call bullsh%+. 

While not technically precise, the phrase "the lesser of two evils" doesn't necessarily mean that both are necessarily evil.  Rather, when I use it, as I did above, I was referring to choosing the better of two less than stellar choices.  

Calling it "bullsh%+" is your opinion, which you are obviously entitled to.  However, I'm sure your well aware of the old adage that opinions are like ...

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2 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

It is the popular narrative that we choose between two evils.  I call bullsh%+. 

Totally agree.  A vote for Biden wasn't "the lesser of two evils" for me, as Biden clearly was the best man over Trump.  No Biden wasn't my choice for the nomination but hands down without a second thought my choice for President without regrets.

(No I don't do bumper stickers but if I did, I wouldn't be scraping it off.)

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3 hours ago, subee said:

From the beginning, it has been my expressed opinion on this forum that we will never have an answer to the above question.  I don't have to be a virologist to read enough reports that the only prove that the virologists can't provide an answer.  We need to move on to more important issues, like getting the country to get vaccinated and stop making an *** of ourselves to the world.

It's 2022 and we have great advances in science and virology, so why wouldn't we have an answer to that question eventually?  I think it's a very important question to answer and to study.  However, it being in China, and their record of transparency being what it is, you might be right and we might never know.  I only hope that if it's an accidental leak from the lab, they work on whatever internal changes they need to keep it from happening again, whether they admit it or not.  

 

 

45 minutes ago, chare said:

While not technically precise, the phrase "the lesser of two evils" doesn't necessarily mean that both are necessarily evil.  Rather, when I use it, as I did above, I was referring to choosing the better of two less than stellar choices.  

Calling it "bullsh%+" is your opinion, which you are obviously entitled to.  However, I'm sure your well aware of the old adage that opinions are like ...

I had a few republican acquaintances that looked at it like that.  They couldn't stomach voting for either candidate because both were problematic for them.   As I stated the choice was quite clear for me, but understand for others, especially republicans it wasn't an easy choice.

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Good news on the job front but have to get a little dose of reality while reporting it I suppose.

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Many of those gains have been eroded, however, by the hottest inflation in nearly four decades that has pushed the price of everyday necessities like gasoline, clothing and food significantly higher. 

The rising prices have been bad news for Biden, who has seen his approval rating plunge as inflation climbs higher.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/January-jobs-report-coronavirus-pandemic-2022

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